MLS Expansion draft lists released
Here are the lists of players being exposed by all 14 teams in the upcoming MLS Expansion draft for Seattle Sounders FC (these are the players who will be available):
Chivas USA
Chiles, Kraig
Curtin, Jim
Ebert, Eric
Ferreira, Dejair
Flores, Jorge
Hamilton, Anthony
Kennedy, Dan
Mayen, Gerson
Nurse, Roberto
Paladini, Daniel
Parker, Lance
Razov, Ante
Savage, Keith
Suarez, Claudio
Talley, Carey
Thornton, Zach
Vaughn, Lawson
Victorine, Sasha
Wicky, Raphael
Zotinca, Alex
Chicago Fire
Banner, Michael
Brown, C.J.
Carr, Calen
Frankowski, Tomasz
Herron, Andy
Kasiguran, Kai
Kettering, Tyler
King, Stephen
Lowry, Peter
Marmol, Lider
Noble, Nick
Pappa, Marco Pablo
Prideaux, Brandon
Washington, Austin
Woolard, Daniel
Colorado Rapids
Burciaga, Jose
Burpo, Preston
Cooke, Terry
Dalby, Greg
DiRaimondo, John
Erpen, Facundo
Grazier, Brian
Harvey, Jordan
Hughes, Justin
Keel, Stephen
Kimura, Kosuke
McManus, Tom
Petke, Mike
Sarkodie, Kwame
Ward, Tim
Zambrano, Cesar
Columbus Crew
Burns, Kevin
Elenio, Cory
Evans, Brad
Garey, Jason
Gaven, Eddie
Gruenebaum, Andy
Josten, George
Junge, Ryan
Lenhart, Steven
Miglioranzi, Stefani
Moffat, Adam
Noonan, Pat
Nyazamba, Stanley
Oughton, Duncan
Peterson, Andrew
Pierre-Louis, Ricardo
Plotkin, Brian
Schoeni, Kenny
FC Dallas
Burse, Ray
Daniels, Andrew
Davino, Duilio
Dello-Russo, Michael
Pitchkolan, Aaron
Rowland, Jeff
Sikora, Victor
Wadsworth, Spencer
Wagenfuhr, David
Watson, Jamie
Wileman, Chase
D.C. United
Carroll, Jeff
Carroll, Pat
Cordeiro, Ryan
Crayton, Louis
Doe, Francis
Dyachenko, Rod
Gallardo, Marcelo
Kirk, Quavas
Koroma, Ibrahim
Martinez, Gonzalo
Mediate, Domenic
Miller, Ryan
Olsen, Ben
Peralta, Gonzalo
Thompson, Craig
Thorpe, James
Vide, Joseph
Wells, Zach
Zaher, Michael
Houston Dynamo
Alcaraz, Johnny
Ashe, Corey
Barrett, Wade
Brown, Kyle
Caig, Tony
Chabala, Michael
Hatzke, Nick
Hayden, John Michael
Ianni, Patrick
Jaqua, Nate
Mulrooney, Richard
Onstad, Pat
Ustruck, Erik
Waibel, Craig
Waller, Corbin
Wondolowski, Chris
Wondolowski, Stephen
Kansas City Wizards
Hartman, Kevin
Hohlbein, Aaron
Kraus, Michael
Kronberg, Eric
Marquess, Matt
McKenzie, Rauwshan
Morsink, Kurt
Pardo, Boris
Pizarro, Nelson
Pore, Ryan
Thompson, Abe
Trujillo, Ivan
Wahl, Tyson
Watson, Lance
Los Angeles Galaxy
Adzemian, Vardan
Alamo, Charles
Allen, Ely
Barlow, Jeremy
Cronin, Steve
Dominguez, Eduardo
Franchino, Joe
Gavin, Michael
Kirovski, Jovan
Klein, Chris
Munoz, Mike
Randolph, Michael
Saunders, Josh
Tudela, Josh
Vagenas, Peter
Valentin, Julian
Wicks, Josh
New England Revolution
Angulo, Jose
Badilla, Gabriel
Brill, Samuel
Flood, Gary
Germanese, Joe
Knighton, Brad
Manzonelli, Brandon
Matamoros, Mauricio
Phelan, Pat
Smith, Khano
Thompson, Wells
Tierney, Chris
Tyler, Brandon
Warren, Doug
Zapata, Argenis Fernandez
New York Red Bulls
Borman, Danleigh
Echeverry, Oscar
Gilkerson, John
Jimenez, Diego
Kljestan, Gordon
Leitch, Chris
Magee, Mike
Mbuta, Andongcho
Mendes, Carlos
Palacio, Michael
Parke, Jeff
Patterson, Caleb
Pietravallo, Juan
Roth, David
Touray, Sainey
Wolyniec, John
Real Salt Lake
Besagno, Nik
Cutler, Kenny
Deuchar, Kenneth
Horst, David
Joy, Ian
Kirby, Dustin
Kovalenko, Dema
Mathis, Clint
Nunez, Tino
Reiman, Kevin
Reynish, Kyle
Sturgis, Nathan
Tennelle, Brennan
Williams, Andy
San Jose Earthquakes
Arce, Miguel
Ayres, Jay Michael
Cunliffe, John
Denton, Eric
Ghebru, Michael
Glinton, Gavin
Grabavoy, Ned
Gray, Kelly
Gustavson, Michael
Hatzke, Matt
O'Brien, Ronnie
Riley, James
Roberts, Jamil
Smarte, Adam
Somma, Davide
Toronto FC
Attakora-Gyan, Nana
Elkinson, Kilian
Freeman, Hunter
Gala, Gabe
Gaudet, Derek
Melo, Joey
Ricketts, Rohan
Rosenlund, Tyler
Ruiz, Carlos
Smith, Jarrod
Smith, Johann
Sutton, Greg
Velez, Marco
What do you think of the lists? What are the biggest surprises? Who do yo see Seattle taking with its 10 picks? Share your thoughts below.


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The interesting part of the lists is who isn't on the list. If you get a chance please post.
Posted by: John | November 24, 2008 at 05:54 PM
how does it work with players that are on loan to us (I.E Marco Pappa on the Fire?). Can Seattle take him?
Posted by: Joe | November 24, 2008 at 06:02 PM
Stammler left unprotected?
Posted by: ManicMessiah | November 24, 2008 at 06:03 PM
NO ROBBIE ROGERS ON COLUMBUS!? he must be going to europe then
Posted by: Cam | November 24, 2008 at 06:03 PM
Nik Basango anyone?
Too bad Steve Shak isn't on the list...
Posted by: Nic | November 24, 2008 at 06:03 PM
I expect the Red Bulls to lose Parke but they may lose Magee, Jimenez or Mbuta.
Posted by: Tim F. | November 24, 2008 at 06:04 PM
Note: this is the list of the players left unprotected. Of course Robbie Rogers isn't going to be allowed to be picked. Stammler too.
Posted by: Nic | November 24, 2008 at 06:05 PM
Ok, Thanks Nic.
Posted by: ManicMessiah | November 24, 2008 at 06:05 PM
Gaven though. hes gone
Posted by: Joe | November 24, 2008 at 06:06 PM
Can't believe Osorio left Parke unprotected instead of Boyens or Goldthwaite. Wow.
Posted by: Nick | November 24, 2008 at 06:06 PM
Thats a list of guys available in the draft not who is protected....so Stammler & Rogers are protected.
Posted by: KC | November 24, 2008 at 06:07 PM
Who is "Mauricio Matamoros" for the Revolution?
Posted by: JL | November 24, 2008 at 06:07 PM
ManicMessiah & Cam: This is the unprotected list. Everyone that can be drafted is here. So Stammler and Robbie Rodgers are protected.
Posted by: gaucho | November 24, 2008 at 06:07 PM
These lists are the unprotected players which is why Rogers is not listed. Gaven is a surprise on the Crew list.
Posted by: Oliver | November 24, 2008 at 06:09 PM
NE: Mauricio Matamoros = Mauricio Castro
Posted by: Oliver | November 24, 2008 at 06:11 PM
Why is Osorio protecting Conway,Boss,Boyens and Cichero? and not protecting Jeff Parke and Jimenez??
Posted by: MasterShake | November 24, 2008 at 06:12 PM
eddie gaven unprotected? that would be one of the best pickups.
Posted by: Tim F. | November 24, 2008 at 06:14 PM
Chicago's list of protected players (automatically or by choice) is thus:
1. Blanco
2. McBride
3. Rolfe
4. Pause
5. Conde
6. Soumare (GA)
7. Segares
8. Dasan Robinson (wow)
9. Busch
10. Mapp
11. Thorrington
12. Nyarko (GA)
13. Diego G (retired)
Posted by: kebzach | November 24, 2008 at 06:15 PM
The New England guy in Mauricio Castro.
Posted by: John | November 24, 2008 at 06:18 PM
KC's list of protected players.
M Davy Arnaud
F Adam Cristman
D Jimmy Conrad
M Herculez Gomez
D Michael Harrington
M Jack Jewsbury
D Jonathan Leathers
F Claudio Lopez (I)
M Carlos Marinelli (I)
M Kevin Souter (I)
F Josh Wolff
D Chance Myers (GA)
M Roger Espinoza (GA)
M Kerry Zavagnin (retired)
Posted by: Mike | November 24, 2008 at 06:18 PM
Razov, Ante
Brown, C.J. or Pappa, Marco Pablo
Noonan, Pat
Vide, Joseph
Ashe, Corey
Wahl, Tyson
Smith, Khano
Parke, Jeff
Joy, Ian
Ricketts, Rohan
Posted by: Chrös | November 24, 2008 at 06:19 PM
In most of the expansion drafts, the cheap good players are pure gold. Even though Gaven is available from the Crew, Seatle may be more interested in Evans or Moffat who make peanuts.
Posted by: John | November 24, 2008 at 06:20 PM
HOW CAN THE FIRE JUST HAND AWAY PAPPA!!! stupid!
Posted by: Tim K | November 24, 2008 at 06:21 PM
LA Galaxy Protected List
David Beckham – Midfielder (International Player)
Edson Buddle – Forward
Landon Donovan – Forward
Sean Franklin – Defender
Alan Gordon – Forward
Ante Jazic – Defender
Bryan Jordan – Forward
Eddie Lewis – Midfielder
Brandon McDonald – Midfielder
Alvaro Pires – Midfielder (International Player)
Troy Roberts – Defender
Additionally, forwards Israel Sesay and the newly-signed Tristan Bowen were automatically protected as members of the Generation adidas program.
Posted by: Justin | November 24, 2008 at 06:22 PM
Knowing nothing about the contracts of the following players, I think these would be the guys I would take who can either make the squad or be used as trade bait depending on who else Seattle has in the pipeline. Typically my idea is to take young guys who have shown flashes of potential, or back ups who could be serviceable squad players and some leadership
Flores, Jorge
Pappa, Marco Pablo
Joy, Ian
Thompson, Wells
Thompson, Abe
Barrett, Wade
Cooke, Terry
Evans, Brad
Pitchkolan, Aaron
Randolph, Michael
Posted by: JL | November 24, 2008 at 06:22 PM
Seattle is going to burn someone with at least one high price pick.
Posted by: Amit | November 24, 2008 at 06:24 PM
Why do these teams protect their designated player? Seattle isn't likely to trade for a designated player when they already have Keller and Ljungberg on their salary cap. So if you make the DP available, you can keep one other player that you like...right?
Posted by: Ethan | November 24, 2008 at 06:24 PM
Zotinca, Pappa (or King or Woolard?), DiRaimondo, Evans (or Lenhart), Pitchkolan, Pat Carroll (or Martinez), Ashe, Wahl, Klein, Badilla, Sturgis (or Kovalenko), O'Brien?, Johann Smith
my quick picks from each team. I have a hunch Chicago has a hidden gem or two from their reserve squad. I didn't initially see Pappa listed. Colorado has some decent defenders (Keel, Harvey). Funny how KC starts Wahl over Hohlbein then leaves them both unprotected. Chicago protects Robinson over Prideaux. Colorado protects Peterson over Cooke. I feel vindicated on those 2. Pitchkolan is the no-brainer of the expansion draft. I'd focus on getting guys with trade value or guys that can be cut in preseason. Houston and RSL have some nice players available.
I know Seattle can't take someone from EVERY team. Chivas, DC, and LA might be teams to pass over. San Jose has some unknowns that require scouting. Is O'Brien willing to move yet again? Play on turf? I'd ask first before he retired on me.
Posted by: undrafted | November 24, 2008 at 06:26 PM
Can't believe TFC left Rohan Ricketts unprotected, he was in my opinion our most consistent midfielder and is a fan favorite. I would be pissed if we lost him.
Posted by: TFC4Life | November 24, 2008 at 06:27 PM
based on the lists above, I'm going out on a limb here and predicting that Seattle will not be a good side next year.
Posted by: JD | November 24, 2008 at 06:28 PM
Interesting that KC is protecting Kevin Souter
Posted by: Graham | November 24, 2008 at 06:28 PM
Why do these teams protect their designated player? Seattle isn't likely to trade for a designated player when they already have Keller and Ljungberg on their salary cap. So if you make the DP available, you can keep one other player that you like...right?
Posted by: Ethan
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If you expose your DP then you create a situation where Seattle takes that player on behalf of another team that they arrange a trade with.
Posted by: kebzach | November 24, 2008 at 06:28 PM
how does it work with players that are on loan to us (I.E Marco Pappa on the Fire?). Can Seattle take him?
Posted by: Joe
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Yes. I say yes because DC was told they had to protect their players that were on loan from the USL, otherwise they'd be fair game to be picked. Obviously that ruling would have to apply to Pappa too.
Posted by: kebzach | November 24, 2008 at 06:29 PM
I've seen different lists... For example on New York:
Cichero AND
Rojas are both unprotected.
But not on your list, Ives?
Are there people missing/left out?
Posted by: kahlva | November 24, 2008 at 06:30 PM
Seattle should pick up Pat Onstad from houston. That would be funny. Unless he is retiring. They could pick up some good trades from him. I bet houston would give up either DeRo or Ching back for Pat.
Posted by: Bob | November 24, 2008 at 06:32 PM
The NY list is impossible, because it means 14 protected players.
Posted by: scaryice | November 24, 2008 at 06:33 PM
names I didn't notice right away - Noonan, Flores, Parke (& the whole Red Bull list). We know salaries for most of these guys, but not contract length.
I think teams should be forced to protect their DP.
Posted by: undrafted | November 24, 2008 at 06:34 PM
Keep in mind, folks, that they have to protect 3 SI players, which is why some of the DP's are being protected.
Posted by: jane | November 24, 2008 at 06:34 PM
There is at least 1 DP unprotected: Gallardo.
Posted by: DemonJuice | November 24, 2008 at 06:36 PM
i'm really mad that Parke wasn't protected!
Posted by: Cindy | November 24, 2008 at 06:37 PM
I'm disappointed to see Pappa available. I would have left Mapp unprotected instead.
Posted by: Drew | November 24, 2008 at 06:38 PM
Prideaux and Jaqua pretty much stated their desire to play for Seattle before the season began. I think they are the most safe bets to make.
Posted by: J | November 24, 2008 at 06:39 PM
What are the rules on multiple players from one team? Because there are 4 good picks from Columbus - Evans ($33k), Moffat ($18k), Gaven ($167), and Noonan ($175k). And I still think Jason Garey is going to score goals in the league.
Is Pappa really available? Fire fans are going to go nuts. I'd take him in a heartbeat at $35k.
Evans, Ashe, and Pappa would be an awesome trio for $100k!
In general, there seem to be many more quality MF's than defenders, so I bet a lot of guys are going to be drafted to be dealt later. I guess you'd have to call Ian Joy or Wade Barrett the best defensive help, but there are a lot of young cheap midfielders I'd snatch first.
Posted by: eric | November 24, 2008 at 06:40 PM
Diego is retiring so why would you protect him and not Pappa? Doesn't make sense.
Posted by: Darkman | November 24, 2008 at 06:41 PM
undrafted, Ronnie O'Brien hates field turf. Was one of the reasons he was injury prone in Toronto and one of the reasons he was left unexposed during SJ's expansion draft.
Posted by: Dan | November 24, 2008 at 06:42 PM
Wow, JoSmith, Ricketts, Sutton (whos not going anywhere), Rosenlund, Gala and Attakora. Some good picks there...
Posted by: Ossington Mental Youth | November 24, 2008 at 06:43 PM
Diego is retiring so why would you protect him and not Pappa? Doesn't make sense.
Posted by: Darkman
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Fire didn't protect Diego. I have him listed as the #13 guy just because he was not exposed. He is indeed retiring. Fire protected 11, plus Nyarko was automatically protected as a GA player.
Posted by: kebzach | November 24, 2008 at 06:45 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_MLS_Expansion_Draft
I have been updating that page with the list of protected players as well as the unprotected.
The lists here (which were sent out by MLS) seem to have a couple errors. Boss and Cichero were obviously not protected, but are missing. So that likely means one of Kandji or Rojas was their last man protected, and one of them isn't.
Angula and Matamoros for NE aren't even on their roster as far as I know.
So MLS needs to check their lists a bit better.
Posted by: scaryice | November 24, 2008 at 06:45 PM
Interesting that KC is protecting Kevin Souter
Posted by: Graham | November 24, 2008 at 06:28 PM
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Not really.
1. The Wizards have to protect 3 of their 4 internationals and Souter is more valuable than Trujillo or Marinelli.
2. Souter started the last 6 games, including playoffs, and had 1 goal. He was definitely worth protecting as an international.
Posted by: Mike | November 24, 2008 at 06:48 PM
hopefully they dont take him and take Stephen King. He is a good player and only makes 12K a year. This situation reminds me alot of Ivan Guerrero last year with Osorio not liking him so he left him unprotected and hes gone. I cant believe he is unprotected.
Posted by: Joe | November 24, 2008 at 06:50 PM
LA left both of their crap GK's unprotected. Does anyone think they'll be offering Seattle cash to take them off their hands and hope Keller never gets injured?
Posted by: Jules | November 24, 2008 at 06:51 PM
Guessing salary, and basing it on what I've watched the past two years, these would be my 10
Calen Carr (Fire)
Adam Moffatt (Columbus)
Carey Talley or Sasha Victorine (Chivas)
Rod Dyachenko (DC United)
Ronnie O'Brien (SJ)
Wells Thompson (NE)
Facundo Erpen or Jose Burciaga (Colorado)
Patrick Ianni (Houston)
Jeff Parke (Red Bulls)
Nana Atakora (TFC)
Posted by: Doom Boy | November 24, 2008 at 06:56 PM
I would take
1. Marco Pappa (thanks Chicago)
2. Ian Joy (D)
3. Jeff Parke (D)
4. Jim Curtin (D)
5. Jose Burciaga (D)
6. Eddie Gaven (M)
7. Wells Thompson (M)
8. Ned Grabavoy (M)
9. Carlos Ruiz or Johann Smith
10. Nate Jaqua (F)
11. Zach Wells G.
Posted by: Tim F. | November 24, 2008 at 06:56 PM
kebzach: thanks for the answer. I hadn't thought of that, but it is definitely true.
Posted by: Ethan | November 24, 2008 at 06:57 PM
after the whole Lider Marmol saga between NY and Chi, they leave his unprotected
Posted by: jevanvoo | November 24, 2008 at 06:57 PM
For Seattle to consider:
NE: C. Tierney (LB), K. Smith (LM/F), P. Phelan (DM/CB)
NY: J. Parke (RB), C. Leitch (RB), J. Pietravallo (DM), M. Mbuta (RM)
CHI: M. Pappa (M), B. Prideaux (RB), S. King (DM)
CLM: E. Gaven (RM), A. Moffat (CM), B. Evans (M/F)
TOR: R. Ricketts (M), Jo. Smith (LM), C. Ruiz (F)
DCU: L. Crayton (GK), M. Gallardo (CM), G. Martinez (LB)
KC: K. Hartman (GK), T. Wahl (CB)
HOU: N. Jaqua (F), C. Ashe (LM), W. Barrett (LB), C. Waibel (RB), R. Mulrooney (RB)
DAL: A. Pitchkolan (CB)
LAG: C. Klein (RB/RM), M. Randolph (LB)
CHV: A. Razov (F), L. Vaughn (RB), J. Flores (LM), S. Victorine (M)
COL: T. Cooke (LM), K. Kimura (RB), T. McManus (F), M. Petke (CB)
RSL: A. Williams (M), I. Joy (LB), D. Kovalenko (DM)
SJ: R. O'Brien (RM)
Given that they can only choose 10, and only 1 per team:
1. R. O'Brien - SJ
2. N. Jaqua - Hou
3. M. Pappa - Chi
4. A. Pitchkolan - Dal
5. C. Tierney - NE
6. R. Ricketts - Tor
7. J. Flores - Chivas
8. A. Moffatt - Colum
9. I. Joy - RSL
10. C. Klein - LA
Posted by: garg0yle | November 24, 2008 at 06:58 PM
Only 10? Then
I would take
1. Marco Pappa (thanks Chicago)
2. Ian Joy (D)
3. Jeff Parke (D)
4. Eddie Gaven (M)
5. Carlos Ruiz or Johann Smith
6. Nate Jaqua (F)
7. Zach Wells G.
and three of the following four:
1. Jose Burciaga (D)
2. Jim Curtin (D)
3. Wells Thompson (M)
4. Ned Grabavoy (M)
Posted by: Tim F. | November 24, 2008 at 07:01 PM
Dont think Ricketts will leave, he loves Toronto BUT could play in Europe for more, an option i can see him practicing should they draft him (dunno if they will).
More concerned with JoSmith possibly leaving
Posted by: Ossington Mental Youth | November 24, 2008 at 07:06 PM
how does it work? Can they just snatch anyone they want, or do they need to factor in costs? How many per team. Well, without knowing anything but the fact that there is a list, ante razov stands out the first to me as someone getting snatched up.... Someone, Ives, please explain more.
Posted by: zach | November 24, 2008 at 07:06 PM
Re: scaryice
Matamoros is Mauricio Castro, a pretty skilled winger. Good dead ball skills. Decent service. Not great defense. Tiny guy. Took over corners and free kicks when Ralston went out. Could be worth it for Seattle.
Angulo is Ives' boy Jose Angulo, the teenage prodigy from New Jersey that the Revs put a discovery claim on and everybody in New York got pissy about it. Talented kid, but I heard he's been hurt and he got fat and skipped a couple practices so New England isn't as high on him anymore.
Posted by: Carl Setterlund | November 24, 2008 at 07:07 PM
With Keller an expensive signing, I don't think that Seattle will take a goalie unless they think they can organize a trade (which LA might be already talking to them about).
If they take Chris Klein, LA will be overjoyed.
If they take Carlos Ruiz, Toronto will rejoice.
I think Jorge Flores is a good choice. Cheap and young are a good combination.
Was it determined that you could only pick one from a team? I thought it was more than that.
Posted by: Ethan | November 24, 2008 at 07:09 PM
i'd pick up Jorge Flores if i were them...the guy is super young and shows great potential.
Burciaga will sure up the LB spot
Posted by: cbr | November 24, 2008 at 07:13 PM
Ethan-
1 per team. See MLS site.
"Seattle may not claim more than one player from any given team in MLS"
http://web.mlsnet.com/news/mls_news.jsp?ymd=20081124&content_id=206683&vkey=pr_mls&fext=.jsp
Posted by: garg0yle | November 24, 2008 at 07:13 PM
The fact that Lider Marmol is unprotected is, I think, just hilarious and I like it. I DO NOT like the fact that my projected 09 MVP, Marco Pappa, IS ALSO unprotected. I want to believe that the Fire F.O. know something that we obviously do not and know that SFC won't pick him up. If that's not the case...
who wants to make "SAVE PAPPA" t-shirts with me?
Posted by: RedLine55 | November 24, 2008 at 07:15 PM
Also, "Seattle will have the right to renegotiate a drafted player's salary (either up or down) without having to place such player on waivers or giving his previous Team a right of first refusal."
This means overpaid-but-still-good players are not a bad thing for Seattle (e.g. Klein) b/c Seattle can push the salary down.
Posted by: garg0yle | November 24, 2008 at 07:16 PM
Brad Evans/Eddie Gaven from CLB...either one is a coup. I personally want Evans - Gaven's preferred position is Freddie's anyway.
Flores would be legit, but unnecessary. I would dig around for defense mostly. Pappa is a gift. Burse would be a good choice for GK of the future.
Anyone on Houston would help. I fear it will be Jaqua because of his WA ties, but I think either the mad potential of Ashe or the leadership of Barrett or Waibel would be better.
Posted by: Blake | November 24, 2008 at 07:18 PM
Haha as much as i love my quakes its awesome that we do not have that much depth this year. The only blow to our team is if Ronnie O' Brian gets picked but i doubt if a turf team like Seattle would go for the often knee injured guy. Awesome!
Posted by: Supsam | November 24, 2008 at 07:18 PM
Some decent players available.
Columbus decision will be tough.
Do they choose high salaried Eddie Gaven or go with youngsters Moffat or Evans.
Posted by: CD | November 24, 2008 at 07:21 PM
Umm, Parke isn't protected for the same reason I wouldn't have bothered with Conway. Think RBNY is gambling that Seattle won't take a player that will have to sit out games to start the season. They'll need immediate contributions. That said, with the playoff run what is the suspension down to? 4 more games?
Posted by: Steve | November 24, 2008 at 07:24 PM
Given that Maykel Galindo is protected, I would expect Seattle to make a pick that caters to Chivas's needs in order to trade for him. I'm still convinced that they are interested in him, and he would definitely bring a dynamic component to their offense.
Otherwise, I definitely see them picking Pappa. Another interesting pick would be Quavas Kirk from DC.
Posted by: ivanov | November 24, 2008 at 07:27 PM
From a Seattle perspective, I would encourage those of you looking at the lists to think defense -- I think that is where the team's emphasis in the expansion draft is going to be.
I wouldn't be surprised to see them take Wade Barrett ahead of Jaqua from Houston and Brandon Prideaux ahead of Pappa from Chicago.
A lot depends on contracts and salaries, of course. Some of the guys exposed are actually out of contract and free anyway, like Gonzalo Martinez in DC, who is probably headed back to S. America.
Posted by: scott47a | November 24, 2008 at 07:29 PM
I like Eric's idea, scoop up Ashe, Pappa, Evans. Jorge Flores is so gone too. Grabavoy, Leitch, Kovalenko, Pitchkolan, Vide, Abe Thompson, you've got a halfway decent line up.
Posted by: victor | November 24, 2008 at 07:33 PM
Guessing salary, and basing it on what I've watched the past two years, these would be my 10
Calen Carr (Fire)
Posted by: Doom Boy |
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I doubt that a player with a torn ACL possibly playing on turf in 2009 would be a good pick for Seattle.
Posted by: kebzach | November 24, 2008 at 07:34 PM
after the whole Lider Marmol saga between NY and Chi, they leave his unprotected
Posted by: jevanvoo
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Dude couldn't get on the field in Chicago and when he did he was REALLY REALLY BAD. Really.
6 figure guys like that can't be protected.
Posted by: kebzach | November 24, 2008 at 07:37 PM
This is not slim pickings by any means. Lots of very strong players on the list. Watch out for Seattle next season. I am wagering now that they reach the playoffs with the right coach (Sigi?)
Posted by: Tomr | November 24, 2008 at 07:45 PM
I see a lot of quality RW's out there: Gaven, Noonan, O'Brien, and Ricketts all come to mind.
I think teams are betting with Ljundberg in the fold, Seattle won't pick another RW, especially if there is a high price tag.
Posted by: Jason | November 24, 2008 at 07:49 PM
RE: Angulo & Matamoros
As noted above Matamoros is really Mauricio Castro. Speculation is that because filed the Discovery claim on Angulo they still held his rights and would have to protect them/expose them. Same deal with Argenis Fernandez who spent most of the year on loan to Alajuelense back in Costa Rica.
Posted by: NateP | November 24, 2008 at 07:50 PM
Given Ljunberg & Nyassi's service from the wings i would try and grab Jaqua or Deuchar from RSL - Great aerial strikers that know how to score with their melon.....
Posted by: Aaron | November 24, 2008 at 07:50 PM
NOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!! MARCO PAPPA!!!!!
Posted by: Warren | November 24, 2008 at 07:54 PM
Only one player per team can be picked, right?
Hmm...
Burse (Gotta have an understudy for
Keller)
Barrett
Mendes
Wahl
Prideaux
Moffat
Wells Thompson
Sturgis
Kirk
Johann Smith
They don't need to pick Jaqua; his deal to return to Houston stipulated that he'd be free to sign w/ Seattle this year.
That gives you a core of those 11 guys (counting Jaqua) plus Le Toux, Sanna Nyassi, Keller, and Ljungberg... which equals a sturdy, reliable veteran defense, and a young midfield/attack with some upside.
I'm also assuming they intend to use Ljungberg on the wing. If they move his creaky old legs to the middle of the pitch, I'd take Gaven over Moffat.
Posted by: Jonny R | November 24, 2008 at 08:02 PM
Hope Eddie Gaven likes rain.
Posted by: MtclrMsv | November 24, 2008 at 08:04 PM
If I were Seattle, (not having looked at salaries etc.) I'd seriously look at...
Jaqua, Castro (ie Matamoros), Kimura, Velez, Gonzalo Martinez, Burciaga, Doe, Badilla
Experienced young defense and some attacking options, imo.
Posted by: nico | November 24, 2008 at 08:05 PM
No more than 1 player/team can go.
If The Crew lose Gaven (and his high contract number) they plug in Ekpo. Lose Evans or Moffat? Plug in the other one, or Pat Noonan. Lose Noonan? He might retire, since he specifically wanted Columbus to be in the Midwest b/c of his wife's family. Lose Garey? He's not a starter, though he's probably in the succession plan once Moreno moves on (he's getting older, y'know).
The Crew are pretty well-positioned to weather this one.
Posted by: Brant | November 24, 2008 at 08:05 PM
I'm almost sure that we (The Fire) are gonna lose Pappa and that makes me incredibly mad. Pappa over Robinson any day.
Posted by: Mike | November 24, 2008 at 08:08 PM
I could see us losing Magee or Parke. I pray they take Leitch.
Posted by: Michael F. | November 24, 2008 at 08:11 PM
Anyway you look at Ruiz isn't a part of TFC next year.. Seattle picks him up or TFC tosses him him the reject bin.
Rickett's walks from the MLS if Seattle takes him, plain and simple. If he's not playing for Carver he's not playing in our league.
Posted by: kshep | November 24, 2008 at 08:19 PM
My guess is that Seattle will not pick up a goalie...the usl sounders have a great young one in Chris Eylander.
Posted by: smokeminside | November 24, 2008 at 08:32 PM
Dear Seattle,
Marco Pappa is not really that good. He can only play 2 or 3 minutes at the end of a game (according to Hamlett's subs) and he has family in Chicago, which means he will whine in Seattle the way Osorio did in Chicago. On top of all this brandon prideaux is one of the best, fastest, most technically sound and offensively inclined right backs you could ask for. I'd really hate to seem him go, but alas some one must.
Heart,
Helpful Fire fan.
p.s. Denis is an idiot.
Posted by: Fumar | November 24, 2008 at 08:40 PM
Seattle Picks:
1. Vaughn or Zotinca from Chivas - good players whom spent much of the year hurt.
2. Ray Burse from Dallas - good prospect whom will eventually replace Keller.
3. Mike Petke - Colorado, solid defender. Other possibilities are Terry Cooke or Greg Dalby from Colorado. Aging but brilliant English crosser or top prospect.
4. Pat Noonan from Columbus - I don't care how much he costs. He is a successful, American striker.
5. Craig Waibel, Wade Barrent or Patrick Ianni from Houston. The former two can produce now and Ianni is a good prospect. I'd go with Waibel.
6. Abe Thompson - KC - Another good, young, cheap American striker.
7. Chris Klein - LA - One of the steadier players on LA this year. A bit long in the tooth but still productive and versitile.
8. Chris Tierney - New England. Natural lefties are rare.
9. Jeff Parke - NY - Avoiding the steroid jokes, he's a good player if you leave him in the center of a four man defence. He is not a fullback as Osorio kept trying. He'd make a good tandem with Petke.
10. Ned Grabovoy - SJ - Talented distributer.
So you have:
FW - Noonan / Thompson / La Toux
Mid - Lungburg, Grabavoy (when Lungburg is hurt), Klein, Nyassi
Def - Tierney, Parke, Petke, Vaughn/Waibel
Goal - Keller, Burse
Not a bad start. THe defense should be solid and the offense has hope.
Need a left mid and a defensive mid. The latter will be easy to get, the former is tougher.
Posted by: Matt | November 24, 2008 at 08:52 PM
How ironic that Lider Marmol is available.
I'll be praying neither Parke nor Woly get taken.
Posted by: kpugs | November 24, 2008 at 08:59 PM
I'm surprised Rohan Ricketts, Khano Smith, Marco Pappa, and a couple of others to be on the list
Posted by: metrostar 4 life | November 24, 2008 at 09:04 PM
I wont try to predict who seattle will take, for all i know they've only got freddie right now...but - leaving out salaries and health assessments which im not researching for this exercise - my first-pass list might be, if i was seattle:
Ante Razov
Eddie Gaven
Pat Noonan
Duilio Davino
Corey Ashe
Kevin Hartman
Diego Jimenez
Wells Thompson
Dema Kovalenko
Jeff Parke
other thoughts, if i were to drop a few $$$ players here and build: Ricketts, Victorine, Carr, Lenhart, Klein
Posted by: Frimp | November 24, 2008 at 09:16 PM
thats right i'd ignore mls rules and take whoever i want and play a 3-4-2-1 like this son:
Razov
Thompson Noonan
Ashe Ljungberg Gaven
Dema!
Jimenez Davino Parke
Hartman
Posted by: Frimp | November 24, 2008 at 09:26 PM
After thinking Eddie Gaven would be a lock, I realize Seattle has their DP playing his position already. Also folks, keep in mind if Seattle takes a developmental player, they are required to bump them to a senior contract, which will probably discourage them from taking a flyer on some of them.
Posted by: SonicDeathMonkey | November 24, 2008 at 09:29 PM
Fumar - don't forget about Klopas. He probably had more say in this decision than Hamlett.
I hope the people on here talking about defense are correct and Seattle goes for Prideaux. Losing Pappa would be worse than Osorio letting Guerrero go last year.
Posted by: firefan06 | November 24, 2008 at 09:48 PM
The more I think about it, the more I think Brad Evans is by far the most salivating option. He's young, affordable, and worked the middle for the Cup/Shield winners. Gaven doesn't fit the way Evans would and would cost a bundle more.
Posted by: Blake | November 24, 2008 at 09:54 PM
Can't believe TFC left Rohan Ricketts unprotected, he was in my opinion our most consistent midfielder and is a fan favorite. I would be pissed if we lost him.
Posted by: TFC4Life | November 24, 2008 at 09:58 PM
CHI M. Pappa ($33k)
CLB E. Gaven ($165k)
HOU C. Ashe ($33k)
NY J. Parke ($58k)
NE W. Thompson ($33k)
DC J. Vide (19k)
SJ M. Riley ($33k)
TFC M. Velez ($60k)
KC K. Moorsink ($33k)
CHV A. Razov ($258)
Total $725,000 based on 2008 salaries.
Posted by: Chris | November 24, 2008 at 10:03 PM
Here's my team for the sounders fc next year
-----------Razov---------Jaqua-------
Ljungberg-------Guallardo---------O'brien
-----------------------Olsen------------------
Zotnica------Davino-------Erpen------Talley
------------------Kennedy-------------------
I can only imagine what would happen in that midfield.
Posted by: fenel | November 24, 2008 at 10:05 PM
Here's my team for the sounders fc next year
-----------Razov---------Jaqua-------
Ljungberg-------Guallardo---------O'brien
-----------------------Olsen------------------
Zotnica------Davino-------Erpen------Talley
------------------Kennedy-------------------
I can only imagine what would happen in that midfield.
Posted by: fenel | November 24, 2008 at 10:11 PM