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June 18, 2008

Who will the USA play in Barbados second leg?

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With the USA sitting on a comfortable 8-0 lead after the first leg of their series against Barbados, the U.S. national team is poised to play the second leg without several key players. Now what remains is figuring out which new players will get a look in the match in Barbados.

The following ten players were released by U.S. coach Bob Bradley:

Brian Ching (Houston Dynamo), Clint Dempsey (Fulham FC), Steve Cherundulo (Hannover 96), Landon Donovan (Los Angeles Galaxy), Brad Guzan (Chivas USA), Frankie Hejduk (Columbus Crew), Maurice Edu (Toronto FC), Sacha Kljestan (Chivas USA), Pablo Mastroeni (Colorado Rapids) and Matt Reis (New England Revolution).

With Danny Szetela and Chris Seitz the first two new players to be called in, that still leaves eight slots to be filled. Keep in mind that MLS players with games this weekend are very unlikely to be called in. With the Chicago Fire and Chivas USA playing each other on Thursday, we could see several players from those teams (such as Chris Rolfe and Justin Mapp).

So what kind of starting lineup will we see in the second leg? Here's one possibility:

--------------------Johnson----------------------

Beasley-------------Adu-------------------Rolfe

--------------Bradley-----Szetela---------------

Pearce------Bocanegra--Onyewu--------Simek

---------------------Howard---------------------

I'm not sure if Aston Villa transfer target Frankie Simek is healthy but if he is I can see him getting a call in. Chris Rolfe should merit a look as well. And sorry folks but Kenny Cooper will be in New Jersey playing the Red Bulls so he won't get a call.

What new players would you like to see get a look? Share your thoughts below.

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Why was Sacha Kljestan released, especially with Chivas USA not playing? He's shown glimpses in his few appearances with the nats, so wouldn't this be a great opportunity to use him. He'd be an exponentially better option on the right than Chris Rolfe.

What about Johann Smith? Kamani Hill? Ferrari? Any of those guys get a chance?

SUBOTIC!!!!

Not sure if this is possible, but wouldn't this be a great time to try to cap-tie guys like Subotic, Torres, etc.?

i know you want to get DMB back in shape.. but I don't know if I would want to do it in the second leg here.. Maybe try and get Baki to declare he will play for the US ;)

Anybody know where in Miami the team is working out? Are the practices open?

Why does BB take forever to release the roster? Other national teams release the roster two weeks in advance, but we have to wait for the friday before? Call everybody today so they can train for the rest of the week!!

Would love to see Mapp get a run out with Bradley, Adu and Kljestan. That is some serious skill in the middle which we have lacked for quite some time... I say we go wtih just Eddie up front and those 4 plus a stopper type right behind the middle 4.... perhapd even have Bradley play the stopper roll and put Eddie up top with Rolfe

I really hope we don't see a Bocanegra-Gooch pairing in the middle for this match. The sheer lack of athleticism between the two of them really scares me. I'd like to see Demerit get a full 90.

Confused about why Kljestan isn't being called in for this one.

Sacha was released to play on Thursday for Chivas. Interesting to see if he is called back in. Should be in my opinion.

Mapp is no where near int'l quality yet. Would love to see Subotic, but I'm not sure he would come yet, having not decided on a national team. Altidore!!!!!!!

"Why does BB take forever to release the roster? Other national teams release the roster two weeks in advance, but we have to wait for the friday before? Call everybody today so they can train for the rest of the week!!"

Not sure Bob planned on winning 8-0 and releasing 10 players. Got to cut him some slack for this game I think, but it would have been nicer to see him a little bit more prepared.

I agree that Ferrari and Subotic and Hill should come in. Maybe Bryan Argues or Torres from Mexico and Michael Orozco.

um...I think Josh Wolff is available...

I think if people think Mapp can not hang at the international level then they are fooling themselves... he has the talent and merely needs the motivation. We need a solid back-up on the LW and he can be just that. Eddie Lewis can't go forever guys and Robbie Rogers has not been given a real shot yet as well.

Hill, Ferrari??? Did you watch the Toulouse Tournament? These guys are no where near good enough for the senior NT yet.

I know the US is playing what amounts to a pubside, but I think there are far more players in the national team pool that have been performing well that deserve the cap before either of these guys, such as Simek (if healthy), Klestjian, Cooper, Orozco, Subotic (if he wants to player for us), Torres (same as Subotic), etc.

And wasn't Smith recently released by Bolton? Though not having a team hasn't stopped Bradley from calling up people recently...

Robbie Rogers. I think the Crew have a game but who cares. He needs to get some time.

Does anyone know if yellow cards carry over? if so, dont play gooch. why risk him getting another silly yellow and possibly missing a game.

Robbie Rogers was one of the most skilled players on the ball @ the FIFA U20's last year. He has pace and good vision as well. Very much in the Joe Cole mold I think. He will get his chance in the future.

I think Onyewu will sit this one out since he is carrying a yellow. They won't want to risk him missing the next match in qualifying just so he can play in what really is a meaningless game.

Also MLS is stupid not observing Int'l dates, its frustrating to national team fans and to MLS coaches, we've already heard Gullit & others complain..what will it take for those boneheads to make the change?

There's always Rossi!

Ok, I'm sorry...I simply could not resist.

I won't be surprised if Zizzo is called in to camp too. After all he was called in earlier this year and being out of season it seems like an obvious choice.

Andy, you've got Mapp's situation backwards. He has loads of motivation and desire and cojones, but lacks the talent. It's nice to see him try to run at people and be dangerous, but he just doesn't have the ball skill to be effective doing that against good international teams. He often looks out of control and uncoordinated when he's making those runs down the flank. You can get away with that against CONCACAF teams, but not in higher level competition.

Damn you, mig22. You gotta be quick here.

Kenny Cooper. But here's the deal...I'm fine with Cooper NOT playing now as long as I know that he will be in the national team fold when it really counts.

HOWEVER, if we get to that point and Bob Bradley starts feeding me some BS line about how "Cooper doesn't have the national team experience to merit a call up", then I will just have to say you had x-amount of games to give it to him and you didn't.

Sigh...pointless anyway...

I say we just let the guys who played at the Toulon Tournament play Barbados. It would give them a nice confidence boost.

When the game got out of hand, why wouldn't you just instruct Onyewu to get a second yellow? He'd sit for a meaningless return game and re-set for the next round.

It seems that either we are treating this as some kind of ridiculously hard game to win (guys complaining about Bradley after an 8-0 first leg) or treating it like some pick-up playground game (guys saying we should cap-tie players who are nowhere near ready to play for the nats).

I'm in the middle...we can definitely afford to play a young lineup. Having said that, this is still a damn world cup qualifier. We shouldn't be calling up untested kids just to get them a cap, that's ridiculous.

Of course we're not going to lose 9-0, but we can't put out a U-20 team for no reason in a legitimate WC qualifier. A happy medium between the two extreme positions is the best way to go.

Chg, because that is completely classless. Either he'd risk injuring another player in an 8-0 win, the ref would be subjected to a "fake" tirade (which is a joke, you can't treat a ref like that) to get him sent off, or what? Intentional hand ball? Risking further suspension when he is reported as intentionally getting sent off?

Go back to classless teams like Mexico with that garbage, I would be ashamed if my team behaved that way.

I would like to see some of the Scandinavian-based guys get a look: Lee Nguyen, Troy Perkins, and J. White come to mind.

hey brett,

you ready for the second leg? The TGIF 11 need you for the game on Sunday, you played so well in the first leg. I don't even think you need to curtail your Saturday night drinking, Barbados is weeeaaak.

g

Call up Kessel haha

Perfect time to lock Subotic up for life.

"Why does BB take forever to release the roster? Other national teams release the roster two weeks in advance, but we have to wait for the friday before? Call everybody today so they can train for the rest of the week!!"

Other national teams don't have to worry about the domestic league blatantly ignoring FIFA dates. Bob plays nice with the league for games like this so nobody is angry when he yanks the players away for important games.

I'd like to see Kljestan and Adu get a start. Beas should get 90 minutes so he can get fit again. Szetela should see some minutes. Bornstein might get called in so Bob can take a look at him in training and see what his status is. Same with Simek.

I think we are almost guaranteed an EJ / Rolfe partnership up top.

I think Kljestan was released to play tonight and may get a call back for the weekend. Here's what I'd like to see:

Seitz
Pearce DeMerit Califf Anybody
Beasley Adu Edu Kljestan
Johnson Rolfe

If Johann Smith got released, JCO should have him in for a tryout.

I'd like to see Orozco get his first cap, and are there any guys in Europe that we haven't heard from in a while that might be able to help with qualifying? What're Brian West and Robbie Russell doing these days? They aren't playing at national team calibre, but they don't need to be for this game.

HomeyBoehme=Kenny Cooper's dad :)

Kamani Hill, Orozco, Davies, Mapp, Parkhurst, Wallace, Flores, etc.

Oh yeah, Just in case I have to spell it out!

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Jorge Flores

Oh Yeah :-)

groovester- i got the callup, but BB has told me to keep it on the downlow.... i'll be a surprise start and be the first USMN player to get a hattrick of goals and assists.... im not greedy, so after i score my hattrick, ill be laying off the passes to assist a hattrick...

Chase- >.< i wouldnt evaluate anyone negatively on the Toulouse Tournament.... there was no team unity and no decent playmaking... the forwards had zero help...

altho i will say i saw positive things from Nguyen, Hill and Shea..

-----x-x-x-x---------x-x--x-x-x-x-----

------Bernardo---Rolfe-------
Nguyen/Roggers--Adu--Szetela---Kljestan
Pearce--Demerit--Califf--Hill

im going out on a limb and will say BB will call up Bernardo... ok, maybe not but i can dream cant i :D

does anyone else see BB possibly using guys who could be going to the olympics a shot at some game experience....????

I'm thinking that Beckerman deserves to be in there, at least in some capacity

I really don't think Rolfe has what it takes to be a quality Int'l. I don't want to see him play, let alone start. Even he could be productive against Barbados though..heck I'd bet even Chad Barrett would score against them.

Well it is time to let the young players to come up and give everything they got. We need to look for the new face for the future of the Men National Team. Looking ahead of 2014. We need to look for a new striker and I saw one in the Tourment Toulouse the name is Brek Shea. Now that there is rumors the Man. United is after him. I think he is great and have the height and skill. we can try new comers like Simek, Bryan Argues, Orosco,Johann smith, Zizzo, Zsetela, Adu, Altidore, Ferrari, Subotic, Torres, Sasha, and many more. can mixed them up with Bradley, Bacanegra, Beasley, pearce, jonathan Spector, Eddie Lewis & Eddie Johnson. Let give this kids a chance to learn for the Veteran and let try to see how the do in a game like this that will help a lot the Olympic team... WoW I wish we could of us Alvarez in this lineup too.

KC- in all honesty i truely want him to get calledup just so he can get the $$$... i dont want him to play and risk a chance of an injury... he's too valueable for the fire to get injured on a WCQ leg we are already up 8-0... (despite the fact i put him in my lineup)

forwards i want to get called up (barring injury)... Ferrari, Smith, Cooper, Bernardo, and Shea. altho i dont know if he is labeled a forward, but the game against the Italians he did VERY well...

Angel- id rather see Rogers then Alvarez... altho i wouldnt be upset in the slightest if Alvarez got the call up... both seem quality, but i think Rogers is just as talented but a bit faster

I won't be surprised with Rolfe & Mapp getting called up from the Fire and I won't be surprised with Bornstein & Kljestan getting called up from Chivas either. MLS seems to call the shots and they are the only 2 teams without games on Saturday or Sunday. Its unfortunate because there are players more deserving of a shot.

Please god no more EJ! Call up Orozco and Altidore!

I suggest Jorge Flores also. I will keep calling for Quintin Westberg until he gets a call into camp and Cervi doesn't.

----Brek Shea----Altidore------

---Beasley---Adu----Zizzo---

-----Bradley --- Zsetela---

Pearce --Orozco----DeMerit--Simek

----------Chris Seitz--------

Don't we know what Johnson can do? Why is it the USMNT's responcibility to prop up his confidence? That's Fulham's job.
I'd rather see Buddle and Quaranta in the mix. They both deserve a look from the National team again.

Aquaman- i would truely enjoy seeing more from Westberg.... his standout performance against the Italians was something amazing... altho before that game i cant say ive heard a single thing about him....

but if he's within range, i definately say it'd be better for the US Olympic squad to have him then Cervi...

DCUinCT- EJ is in his off season... theres no reason to force another MLS squad to release a what would be starter to go sit the bench or possibly play against barbados... they'd both get better looks against their teams in the MLS then Barbados....

if we wish to see these guys get some time, perhaps during the MLS's offseason... and perhaps if they both continue to show consistancy.... Buddle is sure to break his scoring record, but how consistant will he be... and will he continue to get the callup when LD is back in LA's lineup?? i honestly dont know who would start up top for LA

@SonicDeathMonkey - LOL! Unfortunately, I don't carry the Frankenstein gene-pool necessary to spawn a Kenny Cooper.

A foul that risks injury to another player or shows up a ref is classless. However, there are opportunities to get sent off without doing either.

Onyewu will eventually get another yellow, and it may or may not be deserved. He gets a couple each qualifying season for being big, and a couple more for being American. Resetting the yellows against Barbados would have been the smart thing to do, though to prevent rumors from getting out, he should make the decision on his own so the staff would be innocent.

I would love to see Busch get a call up.

DO we really need to debate about Mapp again? I won't write anything that Wah-meek hasn't written already.
I have a feeling we won't see Subotic for awhile. The kid really felt snubbed by the non U-20 EC call-up.
Jozy, if healthy, has to be called up. The kid needs to stay in playing shape for the Olympics.

Angel -- Don't think the 4-2-3-2 is going to be allowed.

I swear im about ready to call conspiracy against Kenny Cooper. The man cant even get garbage time...

if Bob Bradley doesnt play him, how will we know if hes good enough for the national team..For all we know he can turn into the next brian mcbride, or the next EJ...

-------------Brek Shea-----------------
----------------Adu--------------------
Robbie Rogers-Feilhaber-Szetela-Kljestan
Pearce-----Subotic-----Orozco-----Simek
------------Chris Seitz-----------------

Subs I'd like to see:
Nguyen, Zizzo, Torres, Mapp, Alvarez.

NOLA soccer fan- i doubt any FCD fan would like to see Cooper get a call up this weekend... FCD are in DIRE need of points.... nothing like giving up one of your best attacking option (i would debate it is their best attacking option) when your team needs W's to keep up with the rest of the league....

BB is aware of Cooper and his talent.... and he is aware of how much he means to the FCD team.... just like everyone else id love to see him suit up top for the USMNs but lets be frank... we are up 8-0 against a HELLA weak team and we dont need to take him away from FCD... personally id have prefered him instead of Ching on the first game.... Cooper's touch is too good to be back-burnered behind the likes of EJ and Ching O.o

matt- 2 things:

1- is feilhaber healthy yet??
2- i wouldnt object to him starting as he would need to get some fitness back and some game play to prepare him for next season... hopefully being relegated will open Derby's eyes to play a quality young midfielder

I'm not sure how much this can help our younger players. I understand we want them to get international expirence but its like playin a high school squad. This in no way resmbles a real international game. The only thing it could do is get them used to playin together. If were goin to try new players out we should do against decent teams, not the top teams but beatible teams that would still give us a challenge. Also everybody is going to look good against barbados nobody is going help or hurt there case for regualar action.

I guess I posted under the impression that Feilhaber was indeed fit, although I could be mistaken in that assumption. I definitely agree with the posts clamoring for a Q Westberg a call up.

I got shat on for mentioning this the other day, but I think Buddle really deserves another look. Maybe Marvel Wynne too.

I think Santino Quaranta has played very well for D.C. United as of late. I would like to see him back on track with the NATS. We might as well use this opportunity to deepen our player pool. Keep the frame of the team in tact so we can get the win, but experiment with some other guys like Cooper ect.

Ben! my bad I guess I have to go back to take some math class...lol but we can go with either Altidore or Brek Shea

Just FYI, Drew Moor from FCD was called up, which brings in to question why the hell Kenny Cooper wasn't.

FCD's defense is way more flimsy than their offense.

Chad Marshall

With Howard hurt, I'd like to see Chris Seitz in the match.

I really don't understand BB. He just makes strange roster selections. He doesn't want to "hurt" FC Dallas, but he calls in Drew Moor? I guess he has done this since day one. So the "new" players called for Sunday are: Guzan, Sacha, BB Jr (Bornstein), Wolf and three random selections no one understands. Great job BB!!

"I'm not sure if Aston Villa transfer target Frankie Simek is healthy but if he is I can see him getting a call in"


Where did you here Ives that Villa was targeting him? I keep up with Villa pretty well and have seen no reports on this. It would be great though if it goes through.

Thank you in advance.

As well as Buddle and Quaranta have played, lets have them do it for a full season before they get a call-up to the Nats. It's great that these two are having good years after several down ones as they've always had talent, but they haven't been right in the head with all the problems they experienced off the field. Just want them to have to work hard and continue to play well before you throw them a bone.

Does Brek Shea get minutes for FCD? Kid looks like he has a ton of talent from the little I've seen him, but if he isn't starting for your MLS team, then lets wait until he's broke into the lineup before we call for his inclusion on the Nats, even in game such as this where it would take an act of God for the US not to advance.

Angel was the first (I think) to mention Spector, although it was in passing. So what's his situation? Why don't we at least hear his name thrown about?

mark: the only reason to bring in Tino is because he's sitting this weekend anyway due to cards. But you are right, he is nowhere ready, maybe if he had gotten help a year ago...I hope someday he will be, but not yet (and I have become a fan this season)

Drew Moor has been called into camp. Very annoying after his last performance.

Homey,

Spector is out for 3 months after hip surgery.

I'm a fan of Quaranta too but he needs to play a full season and then prove he will do what it takes during the offseason before he should get a camp invite. USSF is probably very cautious with a player with his background, its great he got help and seems to be over his problems but he is in serious "prove it" mode right now.

So far we have Seitz, Szetela, Moor, Rolfe, Barrett & Thorrington...sigh. Aside from Szetela nobody worth a damn(I like Seitz but he is at best #3 in 2010). Still 4 more slots open..anyone willing to take bets that Kljestan is brought back and Bornstein is added too?

Brek Shea? Has anyone seen Brek Shea play in MLS?

KC- i dont want BB to call up anyone who actually has a chance at playing a big role with the USMN... Kljestan, Flores and Guzan are the only 3 id want to see brought in from CUSA... as for other MLS teams, i dont want anyone big brought up... Cooper?? stay with FCD... he'll see better competition this week in the MLS then he would against Barbados....

K. Bowen- no but we saw him in France... the kid has talent and isnt doing anything this week... while he's playing for an underperforming FCD team, the team itself is actually pretty stacked...

Dax, Alvarez, Cooper, and Oduro.... all taking up spots that he can fill... Not to mention he's only 18, and they just recently got a full time coach, who just so happens to have experience playing and training kids his age.... he'll get time soon enough....

oddly enough he's labeled as a M-D.... personally i saw more potential in him up top against the italians in France.... reminds me of a younger cooper (from the small glimpses i saw from him)... and he has 2 GP this season, however, only mustering up 17 min.... expect to see more from him by the end of the year and start of next...

Re Brek Shea, maybe the failure to give him a chance was a good reason in itself for firing Morrow. If Manchester United are interested in someone on your MLS squad, it is beyond negligence not to have given him any significant MLS minutes. An MLS coach should not need Alex Ferguson to tell him who is a good player on an MLS team.

David W- i see the Papertalk article that says ManU are chasing him, but are there any articles that go into detail??

never mind... i found some stuff on it

David W. I seen Brek Shea play in the Toulouse Tournament U23 and he play very well, he supposed to play midfield but I saw him play against Italy as a foward and he fights for the ball on the air very aggrasive knows how to control the ball and has good skill and he score couple of goals too bad they lost, come on he is 6'3" and only 18yrs old, don't u think Man.United seen something that they like about this kid, plus remember Man. United had few american on the Team before Frank Semik, G. Rossi, Tim Howard on few other I'm trying to remember. Brek remind me version of McBride, Can wait to see this guy on the attack with Altidore...WOW and have Beasley, Donovan and Adu in the attack midfield....GO USA

sorry they los to Italy 2-0 but I meant to say they got eliminated from the tournment..

sorry they los to Italy 2-0 but I meant to say they got eliminated from the tournment..

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