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February 10, 2008

Reports: USA vs. England at Wembley on May 28

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According to reports circulating out of England, the U.S. national team is being lined up to face England at Wembley Stadium on May 28.

Currently ranked No. 12 in the world by FIFA, England qualifies as the Top 20 opponent U.S. Soccer president Sunil Gulati stated the U.S. team was in talks to play prior to its friendly against Spain. The United States will face Spain on June 4 at a site in Europe yet to be determined.

At a press conference prior to Wednesday night's match against Mexico, Gulati said there was a 50/50 chance, at best, of the friendly before the Spain match happening. Gulati would not reveal the potential opponent, saying only that it was a Top 20 team.

If England and the United States do meet it will mark their first meeting since England posted a 2-1 victory at Soldier Field in Chicago on May 28, 2005.

For those keeping track, this could mean the United States is lining up a trio of games including England, Spain and Argentina (Yes, Argentina appears to be the front-runner for the proposed game in the United States around June 8th in the Northeast United States) before its first World Cup qualifier in June. That isn't quite as imposing as Morrocco, Venezuela and Latvia but still pretty impressive (yes, i'm kidding).

What do you think of this development? Does that list of games leave you extremely excited? Share your thoughts below.

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I think it would great if the USA played England at Wembley. Have they ever played there before??? Maybe Becks will get his 100th cap for England that day.

I'll be taking a "personal day" off from work if this is true. I had a feeling we would play them again! I am extremely excitied b/c I think we have a chance to beat them.

This is great news for the MNT. There is no bigger stage than Wembley and this should energize our players. Playing England, Spain, and Argentina should wake up the many critics of the USAMNT that we are serious about stepping up our game.

ah, that'd be amazing. i'll probably be working at wembley for the game (i do catering there to help pay for school)! and i agree, there is definitely a chance that we could beat them.

Well, to have a chance to defeat England at Wembley, we'd pretty much have to bring the "A" team on their "A" game. If the U.S. wants to win, then that's NOT the game to give the Drew Moor's and Ricardo Clark's of the MNT player pool "a good experience." Sometimes I think you just have to want to show your best, and perform your best, regardless of the fact that it would be a meaningless friendly. I'd personally love to see us come out of there with a W.

exciting!

You would never hear the end of OMG Beckham's new country vs. old country. Outside of that, it would be a great game and a spectacular way to prepare for qualifying.

Booooooo!

Play it over here. It's on my birthday.

WOW! Win or lose playing Argentina, England and Spain will be a hell of a way to get ready for WCQ. I really like this approach by the USSF. I just hope that we have all of our players available for these games. Beasley is all ready out so I hope that is it.

I thinks its great, its a huge leap in terms of level of competition.

Btw, if we play England, Spain and Argentina. We go 0-3.

But hey, you got to play with the big boys some time.

I LOVE IT!! Playing these type of top quality opponents is what we need to take that next step in our program's development. I would love for us to get a result from these matches, but if we don't I still love where Bob is taking us - getting more guys caps, cutting the young guys teeth in big time games, and playing heavyweights away from home.

Ives, do you think Bob is seriously contending for the Confed Cup in '09, or is this just his way of getting the best possible set of teams (A and B, perhaps C) for WCQ?

with these intense friendlies and the confederations cup our young guys wont be startled one bit come 2010....i love it

Just imagine Romero Corrales gracing the right side of Wembly...i cant wait!

England doesn't look so hot lately. Maybe an upset is in order.

Can anyone tell me what team has light pink and navy blue stripped jerseys? I saw a clip on Fox Soccer Channel yesterday but am not sure of the team. Thank you!

Argentina?? When/where? Thanks!

@Soccer Chick, you are probably thinking of Marseille, they have the most hideous jerseys on the planet.

A good performance in these matches could see several of our players getting a better look in Spain and England. Jozy Altidore and Michael Bradley will be in the shop window, for sure.
But I'm also quite leery of an England team under Capello, which will give no quarter. England players will be fighting for their spots and with no Euro2008 ahead of them, the match will receive their full attention.
But win, lose, or draw, this is a great move for US Soccer. If you want to be world class, you've got to play world class teams.

Glad to see this recent committment to playing quality sides, both here and on their turf. It indicates to me that Bradley (regardless of what anyone thinks of him), is dead set on doing what is best to prep the MNT for WC2010, whether it best serves his job interests or not. Which is refreshing...and overdue...

And while I'd like to see wins, blooding some MLS players in matches like these lets you know what to expect from them when the games get a little more serious, and rise above MLS-quality.

YES! We can totally beat them!

I just looked - it is not Marseilles. The color on the tv could have been off....maybe it was pink and black stripes. But there was certainly pink in it. Any ideas? Thanks.

I think this great for US soccer. In order for us to grow we have to play against the best of the best. Also our players need to have more experience playing in europe and away homes. This is great, I am excited to see the US getting more opportunities.

thats awesome.

hopefully bradley gets his team selection right so this wont be a waste..(ie playing landon donovan at forward)

Amazing. I would fly to England to catch this one no doubt. Very impressive schedule so far from US soccer.

Pink is Palermo from Serie A. I'm not sure of any other pinks clubs in Europe.

Soccer chick, could be Palermo...

Beckham may have his 100th before then but it would be cool to see him play against Landon. We should have a good shot at beating them and it will be a great shopping window for anyone (Jozy, Bradley, Mr. Demerit, Gooch?) who wants a big transfer move.

Capello hasn't ruled out recalling Beckham and why should he? The English press ( who will eat this game up) loves to take extreme postions on every issue. Capello won't rule out any possibility if it will help England win and, if he stays in shape, Beckham will always be a consideration. "Fighting mentality" as they love to say, is a very big part of playing for Capello. Beckham has that and Capello knows him better than any other English player.

Having driven to Chicago and back in 36 hours with a 12 hours layover to see the last USA vs. England, I feel obligated to fly in for 2 days and fly back to meet my work obligations. See you all there!

Yeah! Now we can show them what it's like to play an experimental team of the U.S.A.!

Pencil in Corrales and Moor!

We can't really lose no matter what. If we lose we just do what we always do. Say "Don't worry, it's just an experimental lineup, and by continuing to play like crap with experimental lineups we will really be ready for the world cup in 2010!"

This will give us another chance to start a healthy losing streak! Top 40 here we come!

Morocco, Venezuela, and Latvia? That was the last three games before the 2006 World Cup, the only matches available to us right before a World Cup. You think it's great to get these matches two years before the World Cup even starts? Ives are you ripping Bruce Arena now that he's gone from the Red Bulls?

Bob Bradley couldn't lead Italy or Brazil to the second round of the world cup. He wasn't even that good of an MLS coach! Sucked with the Metrostars, sucked with Chivas (not to mention worst trade decision ever) but for some reason got credit for the team not finishing last when they had an unfair pipeline to Mexican players. He should have done better with what he had. The only real success he had that gave him his "good coach" label, was with Chicago, and that was not his success. Any coach with those players would have done well. The real reason for Chicago doing well was Peter Nowak. That's why Bob has him as his assistant. He knows the only real success he had was when Nowak was running the team on the field. Nowak is a much better coach.
Nice guy and good talent scout does not a good coach make! In a couple of years people will be wanting to hire back "mean", "jerky", "obnoxious", "arrogant" "his whole best ever record was done with mirrors" Arena!

(Endless laughter) Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha.....................

Thank you - my husband thought Palermo. However, when I looked on the website, I only saw the solid pink jerseys. Do you think they have a 3rd kit with the pink/blue horizontal stripes? Thanks1

Another excellent scheduling decision. USSF has conclusively woken up on this front.

Was planning to be in London in May anyway, I will have to check ticket prices, but as usual they will border on ridiculous...
Haven't seen in England play in person since the spring of 2006, partially because of prices for decent seats at Euro qualifiers.

That said, I have not been to the New Wembley, so that could be a treat.

Frankly, England does not scare me much. Mexico has far more young talent.

England is #12 in the world based purely on reputation. The EPL isn't a great league because of its English players, that is for sure.

Great news. I'm a little selfish so just wished one of these matches were on U.S. soil so I could make the trip.
Alas, those are all great away matches against quality opponents. It will either crush the USMNT's confidence or heighten it. I would think the latter.
And the Argentina match has yet to be announced but Ives has the scoop on it.

I love it. England is constantly one of the most overrated teams in the world, and the type of team that not only could our 1st team beat w/ a top notch performance... If I may let my mind wander for a moment, a win against England would be a huge building block towards not only the next WC, but also US soccer in general. And to do it on their home soil would be hilarious, I wouldn't be surprised if Capello was fired on the field. But I'm getting ahead of myself, win or lose it would be great.

We can beat England, a little tougher now that they have a coach who knows what he's doing it will be little tougher but of all the big names in soccer they are the worst. We would beat them in the US, or on netrual ground, Wembley will be toughter.

The mystery pink jersey could have been Juventus...

http://www.vendierre.com/images_jersey_thumbnail/Italy/JABP002_sml.jpg

Heck YES!!! Exciting is the word.

soccer chick - its espanyol's away jersey. trust me.

jaded, you say Bradley couldn't lead Brazil past the 2nd round of the WC, then you say he only succeeded at Chicago because of his players.

And you criticize the inclusion of Corrales and Moor, at the same time that you praise Bradley as a talent scout.

So... can he scout talent but not put them in the first team for some reason? Is he not sufficiently incompetent to undermine a club side with good players, but incompetent enough to f*** up a national team?

Or maybe every team should just be Chelsea 2006/7.

Be a little more specific in terms of the choices that Bradley made under the conditions. Sounds like someone who's willing to take chances to me. We'll see what happens vs. Spain, Argentina, and England, but give him credit for having the cojones to line up matches against them instead of a bunch of minnows.

this could establish us as a true power, if we get good results. i would certainly love to beat england, and shut up all the english fans on youtube who waste their days commenting on highlights from games they aren't even involved in

good for Gulati and USA soccer. They have actually been scheduling good matches for us to play. He has comethrough this past year.

SoccerChick- I definitely think that jersey is Espanyol away.

This game is great, whether we win or lose. I would rather lose these 3 tough games we have coming up and gain some respect in the process than beat the crap out of Latvia.

if it is in the northeast, does that mean Giants stadium, Gillette Stadium, or RFK stadium...I hope giants stadium!!!

Nice. This is definitely getting more serious and playing up. Let's hope Bob Bradley and our boys are up to the challenge.

On another note, I would love to see the US MNT play one of the top four teams from the African Cup of Nations -- Egypt, Cameroon, Ghana and the Ivory Coast. Egypt in particular is quite the enigma considering most of their players don't play in Europe. Nigeria and Mali would also make great opponents.

Let's be realistic, none of these matches are going to prepare us for qualifying. The games will be fun to watch, but I don't think we will have the same feel or style on the pitch as playing any of our potential qualifying opponents. I'm stoked about the match ups, but lets not loose sight of the most important tasks awaiting us this summer.

Great to be playing quality opponents in contrast to Arena's stupidity of only scheduling patsy teams. This is the best way for us to grow and be competitive in the world.

great chance for the players to really get up for a game. just the venue and possiblity of who's watching are enough to cause anyone projectile vomiting. good luck boys.

this is great news for the us, it gives them a chance to play seious competition. the real question is can they compete. its still positive so lets see

We'll give England another dose of the medicine we gave them in 1950!

It's good to see we have a coach who has the wrinklies to schedule very competitive away friendlies instead of weakened out-of-season European teams at home. If you want to be the best, you have to beat the best.

Hope this all pans out. Great experience for the team that will undoubtedly help them going into qualifying. Hopefully we can get a couple results which would be icing on the cake.

This is awesome news! I'm glad to see the USMNT is upping the quality of their friendly games this year by playing better teams like Argentina, Spain and England.

I know these games don't mean anything competition wise, but they are still great measuring sticks for our boys. Go USA!

Modibo:

Your not making much sense with your response.

"jaded, you say Bradley couldn't lead Brazil past the 2nd round of the WC, then you say he only succeeded at Chicago because of his players."

Obviously if a team is good enough to succeed without a manager or with a terrible manager, the manager won't matter.
I thought this would be obvious, but I meant if the help of a good coach was required to advance even great teams like Brazil or Italy to the second round, Bradley would not be up to the task.

"And you criticize the inclusion of Corrales and Moor, at the same time that you praise Bradley as a talent scout."

This is really silly. Coaching your team and scouting talent are two different things. That's why they are usually different jobs. Picking a bad lineup is a poor managing. He is not scouting. Those players are already well established. Good scouting is finding unproven talent and having a good success rate of those players developing into good players.

"Or maybe every team should just be Chelsea 2006/7."

I'm assuming you mean every lineup should be the best possible players that we have?

Again, pretty silly. Experimenting and assessing a talent pool is one thing, never ending experiment with excessive time spent looking at players who are clearly not ready is a waste of valuable time that is limited given how many times you are going to be able to test your final team or near final team against good opposition before playing in the world cup. At this rate, by the time he has a near final team ready for the world cup he will be stuck testing it against teams like Morocco, Venezuela, and Latvia because no one else will be available right before the world cup.

Then there is this claim about Bob Bradley's bravery in facing tough opposition. I'm not so sure about that. How brave is it to test out a team that no one will really expect that much from in the first place? Yeah, he really was brave to test his team against tough opposition in the Copa America, wasn't he? No, he wastes a good opportunity and has the excuse of "I was just experimenting" to explain being clobbered. Players who currently cannot cut it for their MLS team do not need to be called to the national team until they can improve their play for their club team. (With the possible exception being players who already have a proven track record with the national team.) A good example would be Pat Noonan. I like Pat Noonan but he has not played well for a while, probably because of injury. Eddie Lewis is past his time. I know we're desperate for someone to cross the ball, but he isn't going to get back to his old form at this point. There is just no possible reason for calling up certain players at this point. Two years may seem like a long time, but it's really not in terms of assembling a team for the world cup. We're going to go from casual call up anyone who wants to play mode, to we have to hurry because there's very little time left mode real quick.

I wonder if everyone would be so patient with BB if he was "arrogant" and "obnoxious".

This is awesome news, I can't wait.

Modibo:
cont'd from last post

I wonder if everyone would be so patient with BB if he was "arrogant" and "obnoxious".

awesome!
The only thing that could make it better is if we have a real coach before the friendlies!

sevilla third kit...also pink

JPS. U.S. played England at the original Wembley in 1994 and lost 2-0.

Wow...this is really great news. Every time I start to go south on Bradley, something like this happens and I remember why he's such an improvement over Bruce Arena. A good showing in this game would not only up the stock of the USMNT, but it could also help the chances of MNT players looking for summer transfers, which could include Dempsey, Altidore, and Bradley. (If Watford stays down, Demerit might be in that group as well, but I'd think he'd want to captain Watford in the EPL the following season. He stated in his latest ESPN blog that the recent lack of MNT inclusion has been due to injury, which made me far more relieved and willing to forgive Bradley, and this summer schedule is another step in that direction. I'm very excited.) As for England being completely overrated, I guess that's probably somewhat true, but to suggest they're nothing is a little ridiculous. Gerrard, Barry, Rooney, Terry, Ferdinand, Joe Cole, these players are all probably better than anyone the US has, although the gap isn't as big as the English media would like to believe. That said, England would kill for any one of the USA's top four GK's, not to mention a forward prospect like Altidore, so the buildup to the match will be almost as interesting as the match itself.

3 quality teams in such a short span?? are we going to be able to field our "A" team for all three games?

I'm glad we may be playing three top ranked teams in the near future. I certainly hope BB will realize that he cannot experiment with inferior players for those games and use that as an excuse for losing all three games. I wouldn't be critical at all of three losses if we used our best team.

On a different note. I understand that because we didn't reach the second round of the last world cup while playing in the tournament's toughest group and enduring nightmare officiating, that the best coach the U.S. has ever had is now the equivalent of George Bush in popularity, but is it too much to ask to at least stop all the lies?

How good is BB that you have to keep making up lies about Arena to make him look good? The constant nonsense about how the U.S. played only "minnows" under Arena is ridiculous. It's so "cool" to bash Arena that everyone joins in and they have no clue what they are talking about, they just copy everyone else so they can be agreed with. Sad.

This would be an epic matchup and hopefully a nice payday for US soccer! After the way England has been playing maybe they'll be yelling "The Yanks are coming, the yanks are coming!". I would pretty much do anything to be at this match...

I think I'm speaking for most everyone when I say:

"jaded, please shut up!"

this is sweet..i think if we bring our A team top to bottom we have a better than good chance to beat england( NO MORALLES OR THAT OTHER GUY WHO DOESNT deserve another game with the usa). we could also have a positive result vs ARG

Tom B.:

Shut up with the lies or back it up. It's easy enough to look at a game schedule, even for you.

Ives- you seem to insinuate that the USA-Spain game was not going to be held in Spain. The reports I have read seemed to insinuate it would be Spain's final home match before the Euros. Do you have any additional info? I'm going to be in Spain in early June and I'm making it a priority to get to that match.

Finally! I was wondering when the US was going to start scheduling away, Euro teams and get out of the CONCACAF mindset.

The US at wembley
Can't wait

Even if all three turn out to be losses, this is great news. The team has to learn how to play this kind of competition.

This is a good development because if we generate results, it should help our rankings. Should we qualify for the WC, it should help us get a seeding in the draw. While we beat Mexico and do well against them, we need to play these level of teams to surpass Mexico in the WC seeding.

This is great news.

does Bruce Arena post here under the name jaded??

This is excellent news for U.S. Soccer and the future of this National Team. These are the kind of games we have been pining for to truly test this team during a World Cup cycle. People who are obsessed with results shouldn't be. I wouldn't be surprised, nor angry, if the U.S. lost all three of these games. That said, I think we're capable of upsets as well. Regardless, this means only good things as we head into qualifying. After playing world class teams such as Spain, England and Argentina, hopefully Barbados/Dominica and the rest of the Qualifying opponents (assuming we advance) won't seem too tough!

This is awesome, I love it. I almost fell off of my desk chair at work this morning. Soccer is a global sport and its great to see us going global in our competition. This is a great chance to show where we are as well as our league. Thanks for the update Ives, the new site rocks.

Fred MacMurray:

Yes, it's me! Congratulations on figuring it out genius!

You people just can't get it that I'm better than you, can you?

I am the BEST coach you have ever had by far, and will EVER have, and this is the thanks I get! A bunch of coach wannabes who slander me and simply cannot get over the fact that I couldn't get the U.S. into the quarterfinals or better again! In case you haven't noticed this is the United States, not Germany or Brazil.

In a couple of years you'll all be groveling and saying "Please Bruce, come back, we need you! We're sorry we were so mean and hateful, and tried to destroy your legacy!" Well, it won't work! You don't deserve a genius like me. It was thanks to you guys that I couldn't coach the Red Bulls the way I wanted. You were always distracting me with your mean and hurtful posts. Well, so long, suckers!

Now that was funny jaded!

Its about time sunny gulati got a top ranked team to play the US.

I think we are all sick of playing teams like Denmark (2nd team), and Latvia, and any other crap team you can come up with.

If we are to make progress in the grand scheme of things, we have to play great talent. The trio of England, Spain, and Argentina, will definitely show us how good our team is and where we need work.

Hell its better we find out how good we are in friendlies against the best teams in the world, than after they have destroyed us in the world cup.

England, Spain, and Argentina - holy crap - great work USSF.

Whoever it was that mentioned Capello getting fired right on the pitch should England lose to USA - great line.

I love my national team - but let's get real - even if you think England is overated - besides Tim Howard, do we really have anyone that could make the starting 11 on that squad.

Seems like a group of death type scenario (3 matches in 12 days). I like it. I would also guess that we'll have our "A" team for the 2 european matches, and a MLS team against Argentina. Time to see what we're made of.

"do we really have anyone that could make the starting 11 on that squad?"

Jozy would be starting every game for England.

Man I hope we bring our A team everywhere, or else we're going to have argentina thinking we are a joke after playing our scrub team twice lol

And in response to "do we really have anyone that could make the starting 11 on that squad?", thats what england said about croatia and their team, right before they lost 3-2 and didn't make euro 08.

One at a time...we get these top 20 friendlies in order and soon after we begin lining up a friendly or two in Africa against the likes of Ghana, Ivory Coast, Egypt, and Cameroon. Gotta get used to that environment, and not just during the Confed Cup. The chances we'll face more than one African team in the world cup are pretty good, esp if we advance out of the group stage.

Nate: I am very, very excited about Jozy's future (I am a red bull fan) - but I am not ready to sit Rooney for him.

Andrew : Croatia team is not exactly bums. I would be very happy if our mens team could beat Croatia - sure the 'on any given sunday' rule applies - but I am not sure we could beat them on a regular basis.

I love my guys, but I just don't think we have the midfield possession and passing ability (YET) needed to compete with the big boys - and yes, i do still consider Gerrard, Rooney, Terry, Rio, and company big boys.

We have, what, 4 GKs who would start ahead of any English GK? Heck, even Guzan would start ahead of them all - why do you think Villa wanted to bring him in when they have Carson?

In any event, we'll get killed at Wembley. We might as well send over the NY Giants - at least they have experience winning there, and Manning would be better at setting up the attack than any midfielder we have. But, what the heck - what have we got to lose, other than our dignity? If we play these three games, we likely lose them all, but at least that means no silly arguments that the US should be a top seed for the next World Cup draw (like there was for the last draw).

Emm A.S i was watching England play Switzerland and they were playing pretty awful for most of the game, So I can't say they would run USA threw the ground.
Also this match would have to be confirmed by the FA if it were to happen, so lets not all get our hopes up.

England is hard to beat but they also have a hard time beating anyone. Of course, we'l still have to see what Capello makes of them. Does anyone remember that the US just beat Switzerland 1-0 (Bradley) in Basle in October of 2007? England just barely beat them 2-1 at home, while hardly a reliable indicator, based on that the US will hardly be out of its depth. By May the MLS players will be in playing shape, unlike the Mexico match. It doesn't matter if we don't have anyone who could play for England, Greece won Euro 2004 with a lineup of unknowns. The biggest challenge will be making it an entertaining match. As viscerally anti-American as the English footballing crowd are, the pre-game hype should be very entertaining for its venom.

I never said croatia had a rag tag team. I think croatia is a nation to be reckoned with. But i think we are too. We beat switzerland 1-0 and they played the same team and only beat them 2-1 at wembley. Checked the rosters and theres only like 1 or 2 different people and we were missing donovan and EJ so it was no different. And we beat them at switzerland. I mean im not saying rooney, rio, owen, hargreaves, and crew aren't world class, I'm just saying we have a shot at beating them, a way better shot than we've ever had. Especially if we bring the full squad (cept beasley). I'm not saying we are favorites, I know we are underdogs, but we got a shot.

Nate:
"I'm just saying we have a shot at beating them, a way better shot than we've ever had..."

Good point - I totally agree.

It will be a great game to look forward to and watch - i am psyched

*sorry - I meant Andrew*

I was also in Chicago for the last US v England game. The crowd was more entertaining than the game, well the England fans anyway. As the flypast came over the stadium the boys launched into
the Dammbusters theme with their arms out like WW2 bombers....Hillarious....then we had all the "Are you Scotland in disguise" The American fans looked on bemused....

The funniest part of the weekend was at the pre game drink at a pub on the main road not far from the Stadium. It was full of England fans from the North of England, a little basic to say the least. On the same weekend in Chicago there was also a leather wearing Gay convention.....picture the scene....Big dave from Rotheram worse the wear from many pints of Snakebite, meets 2 Puffs walking past the Pub in leather chaps and braces.....It was one of the funniest things I have ever seen...."Cum ere ya F***ing benders" say's the drunken Big Dave, our leather clad friends declined the offer and quickend their walk.....everyone just fell about laughing....These are 2 groups of people that should never meet....So, we will be at Wembley for this one....cant wait....

Thank you to the people who pointed me in the right direction - it is espanyol's away jersey!

lets hope the games actually happen and that we don't end up with morocco, venezuela, and latvia :P
otherwise, sounds great! agree with many of the posts...good practice for our young guys not to get star struck in the world cup, as well as a good test etc...just all around great!!! :)

what channel is it gunna be on?

i don't think usa has a chance.. all of the 8 english players the usa coach is callling upon is either playing in championship league or rthe crappy teams in the EPL

england can get their revenge on U.S.A we
will win

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