28 responses

  1. slowleftarm
    August 28, 2014

    There are definitely some tough groups here but generally the big boys will get through. I don’t agree with Arsene Wenger too often but I agree with him that the old second group stage, which they had before 2004 or so, was more entertaining. That had to go though because of fixture pile up.

  2. Ivan
    August 28, 2014

    The Bulgarians, Ludogorets, got a dream draw (or a nightmare draw, depending on the prospective) as they get to play at the Bernabeu and at Anfield…

  3. Lost in Space
    August 28, 2014

    Group E & F should have some very good games to watch. 3 teams in each that will be pushing for advancment and 1 wipping boy.

    • Mark from LA
      August 28, 2014

      don’t agree with you in group F, Ajax has little chance against Barc. and PSG. But fun fixtures in Amsterdam, for sure.

      Bayern and Man City in E is a lock.

      • Increase
        August 28, 2014

        Ajax beat Barca in Spain last year and they beat Man City the year before that.

        I don’t know that they will succeed but I don’t think its hopeless.

  4. Josh D
    August 28, 2014

    Green has the group of death – again. Is he cursed when it comes to group draws?

    • slowleftarm
      August 28, 2014

      Wasn’t aware that Bayern Munich II was in the Champions League.

      • Eurosnob
        August 28, 2014

        Dude, Green is part of Bayern’s first team this season and was in the 18 who dressed up for their first Bundesliga game. He is no longer with BMII. You should start following Bundesliga more closely.

      • THomas
        August 28, 2014

        He only follows ‘true’ Americans

      • slowleftarm
        August 28, 2014

        I agree with you that I need to follow the Bundesliga more closely.

        I missed that Green was in the 18. He is also listed with BMII:

        link to fcbayern.de

        Anyway, I’d love to start watching more Bundesliga but I don’t get GolTV. Looking forward to Bundesliga on Fox starting next season.

      • Eurosnob
        August 28, 2014

        Wow, Bayern’s website lists him with both youth team and the first team – so much for German’s attention to details, lol. I agree with you that it would be nice to have Bundesliga moved to a more widely available channel. I hate that La Liga is on BeIN, which is available from my provider, but at a hefty premium.

      • shaggie96
        August 28, 2014

        I believe you can subscribe to BeIN online for $10/mo. I’ve read a couple of things about it, but I’m not 100% sure.

      • Gill King
        August 29, 2014

        I have Time Warner. I pay @$10/mo extra for a sports tier that includes all the Fox Soccer channels and beIN in both English and Spanish. The NBC and CBS sports networks and all of the ESPN’s. I get the rest of the LA area Spanish channels also. The only one I don’t get is GOLtv. That cost another premium that I won’t pay. Regardless, well worth the money and those channels keeps my dvr working full time lol..

    • Quit Whining About Soccer in the US
      August 28, 2014

      LOL.

      I don’t normally like jokes at American soccer players expense, but that was pretty funny.

    • Double
      August 28, 2014

      Some people just like to say “group of death” I guess it makes them feel like they know what they’re talking about.

    • bryan
      August 28, 2014

      to be fair to him, he wasn’t even a US player when the WC draw happened. but this is not a good sign for next go-around…

  5. Atletico Man
    August 28, 2014

    I don’t mind the draw at all. Group E is the only one where a first-class team will go out early. C, D, and H are fairly balanced and shoud be competative. It is not like there are a bunch of bad teams here – most of them will play entertaining football. Barca and Chelsea will get through (as log as Barca finds a back line that holds water). The issue with Real is, once again, whether they can learn to play as a team. And of course, ¡aupa atleti!

  6. AcidBurn
    August 28, 2014

    So how did Manchester United do in the draw? I can’t seem to find them there.

    • RB
      August 28, 2014

      Heh heh

    • TheSoccerDude
      August 28, 2014

      They got a “bye,” but LVG thought that meant “buy.” So they will get by somehow.

      • AcidBurn
        August 28, 2014

        LVG told the Champions League admin that his team would need at least 3 months to figure things out, so they come in at the round of 16.

        That makes sense. I mean, why would LVG play these prelim games anyway.

  7. RB
    August 28, 2014

    Sorry to see the previous report and discussion here axed. Still don’t see how they came up with some teams in some of these pots, looking at the coefficient ranking that’s supposed to determine that: link to uefa.com

    • Increase
      August 28, 2014

      Huh, ya. That article seems to be gone. I do find it odd as well and I still don’t understand the inconsistencies.

      Some make sense like Roma being in pot 4. None of the major media outlets find it weird so there must be something were missing. I do know that each team has a league coefficient applied to it. I can only assume that the league coefficient is applied on top of that number and not displayed in that chart.

      • slowleftarm
        August 28, 2014

        It’s based solely on performance in Europe over the past five years – 80% the individual club’s performance and 20% their country’s clubs’ performances. Roma wasn’t even in Europe the past two seasons and hasn’t done much over the past five. Plus Serie A clubs haven’t been that great either in recent years. So there you go.

        link to en.wikipedia.org

        That’s why Man City were in pot 2 while clubs that finished below them in the EPL, Chelsea and Arsenal, were in pot 1. Chelsea and Arsenal have had more success in Europe than Man City.

      • Increase
        August 28, 2014

        Ahh, the 20% thing is the key. Now it makes sense.

      • RB
        August 28, 2014

        Yes but that still doesn’t seem to explain it, I’m afraid (as I was noting in the other discussion).

        Take a look: link to uefa.com

        Schalke is 9th and Porto is 11th, yet Schalke was in pot 2 and Porto was in pot 1.

      • RB
        August 28, 2014

        That is to say, the UEFA link starts out and says

        “The club coefficient rankings are based on the results of clubs competing in the five previous seasons of the UEFA Champions League and UEFA Europa League. The rankings determine the seeding of each club in all UEFA competition draws.”

        So they’re saying that the rankings shown already have taken into account whatever they think needs to be taken into account in order to proceed with the draws. In other words, the ranking should be followed and they should not still be jumping it around based on an extra 20% this or that anything.

  8. THomas
    August 28, 2014

    Is it just me but do Arsenal & Dortmund always seem to run into eachother at one stage or another?

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