World Cup Day 4: Your Running Commentary

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By DAN KARELL

The World Cup continues into it’s fourth day on Sunday and if it’s anything like the previous three, we’re in for plenty of goals and drama.

The day’s action begins at noon as a young Switzerland side takes on an Ecuador hoping to defend their home continent. Swiss winger Xherdan Shaqiri and Ecuadorian winger Jefferson Montero are two players to watch as these two nations open their World Cup campaigns.

Up second on Sunday is France vs. Honduras, with a completely rebuilt France starting lineup taking on the battle-tested Catrachos at 3:00 p.m. Paul Pogba, Raphael Varane, and Antoine Griezmann have led a youth revolution but France will have to prove they can play without Franck Ribery in the team.

Finally, the day’s action ends at 6:00 p.m. in the Maracana in Rio de Janeiro as Argentina face Bosnia and Herzegovina, who are in their first ever World Cup finals. Lionel Messi and Sergio Aguero taking on Edin Dzeko and Vedad Ibisevic means there should be plenty of goals on the menu for tonight’s match.

If you will be watching today’s matches, please feel free to share your thoughts, opinions and some play-by-play in the comments section below.

Enjoy the action (TV listings after the jump):

TODAY’S WORLD CUP SOCCER ON TV

12 p.m. – Switzerland vs. Ecuador – ABC

3 p.m. – France vs. Honduras – ABC

6 p.m. – Argentina vs. Bosnia and Herzegovina – ESPN

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136 Responses to World Cup Day 4: Your Running Commentary

  1. Ga1atic0 says:

    Looking at some sporting events not just the WC, MLS tv production seems low quality. Local broadcast included. There should be rules if you want to broadcast MLS games.

  2. Increase says:

    How stupid of the Ref. Don’t draw the little half circle if you are gunna let him take it from anywhere.

    Sloppy defense even then by the Swiss.

  3. Citronomics says:

    That was too easy on the Ecuador goal. Figures that an ex-Arsenal center back would loose his marker to gift an uncontested header. :-)

  4. Luke says:

    The worst excuse for a seeded team Switzerland losing and looking very average against Ecuador. How did they get seeded over Portugal, England and Italy?

  5. Francois says:

    Ecuador might play the ugliest football out of all the teams. Greece even looked more inventive.

  6. The Garrincha says:

    That pitch Mane Garrincha, looks beautiful today.
    Happy Fathers Day!.

  7. bryan says:

    “Xavi set to move to El Arabi at a salary of £6.6m tax free, according to Cadena Cope”

    LAME.

  8. The Other Jeff says:

    In an age of Escherian tactical schemes, it is refreshing to watch a side that plays a 1-2-3 Go formation. Only one direction on the compass:north. Only one speed in the gearbox: overdrive. Go for it Ecuador.

  9. bryan says:

    another blown call. clearly a dummy. he was not offside, should be 2-1 to the Swiss.

    • Luke says:

      Come on dude! In live action EVERYONE thought it was played by the Swiss player. I’m sure you did too.

      • bryan says:

        no i didn’t. also, im not paid to get the call right, he is!

        • Luke says:

          Really so all the players out there should be perfect 100% of the time since they are paid to make the right play?

          • bryan says:

            all i’m going to say is the ref blew another call. it’s that simple. blame FIFA for a lack of tech or blame the man himself…i don’t care. the POINT is the call was WRONG. again.

      • Chris says:

        Are kidding me? It was blatantly obvious xhaka dummied it and an Ecuador player touched it. The center ref was right there

        • Luke says:

          Yeah blatantly obvious after super slo mo replay! Did any Swiss player or coach argue the call?

          • chris says:

            Sorry buddy Im talking about before the replay. The ref was right there and should have known there was a possibility the AR thought it touched a Swiss player and should have talked to him

        • seamus says:

          But does that settle it, Chris? This is very confusing to me, and this one and also the Mexico goal that was called back on the corner were called back for what seems the same reason.

          Here, when ball is played, goalscorer is onside, that’s clear from replays. If the AR is then calling offside for the deflection off the defender as you say, then it appears the right call. That’s what it seems FIFA says to do.

          link to m.si.com

          The problem is, does the deflection count as a “reset” of some sort to the play. If so, goalscorer is indeed offside (at moment of deflection.) But if it’s part of the original play, which began when the ball was initially played to the goalscorer (when he was onside), then the goal should count.

          See examples 11&12 here to see what I mean.

          link to fifa.com

          • Mason says:

            A player’s offside-onside position is determined at the time the ball is played by a teammate.

            In the Mexico case, the AR mistakenly though that the ball had deflected from a MEX head. Had it, Dos Santos would have been offside. Since it didn’t, you consider the last time the ball was played by a MEX player, which was a CK, and you can’t be offside from a CK.

            In the SUI case, the when the ball was last played by the SUI by A1, A2 (scorer) was in onside position. A3 dummied, but did not play the ball. This should not have caused the AR to reconsider A2′s postiion (which was now Offside position). The AR did reconsider at that point, and mistakenly called A2 offside when he gained an advantage from the deflection off of D1.

            Basically, while the “gaining an advantage” clause of the offside offense was present, the offside position was not. Hard call though…

  10. Phony Meola says:

    Not even close. That was a yard onside. Terrible call by the line judge.

    • Mason says:

      He thought the player who dummied the ball actually played it. Had he, the call would have been correct.

  11. Francois says:

    The swiss the victim of another bad offsides call by assistant refs in this cup.

  12. Chris says:

    Something has to change. This poor officiating has gotten out of control

  13. bryan says:

    good goal!

  14. Citronomics says:

    Amazing finish to this one with the Swiss counter.

  15. Francois says:

    Seferovic!! Yessssssss! The Swissssssssss! Allons-y!!!

  16. Fredo says:

    Wow. What a finish. Stupid Ecuador.

  17. Phony Meola says:

    At least the ref played advantage there

  18. JayAre says:

    That sucks for Ecuador. Whats the appropriate punishment for Michael Arroyo? Not pulling the trigger on that shot and then not getting back on defense was absolutely criminal.

  19. Matt says:

    On the offside call in the second half. It is the correct call, just as the the second called back goal against Mexico. An attacking player in an offside position can not gain an advantage on an incidental touch by a defender. This has been in effect for at least 8 years. It is unfortunate that the experts on TV are unaware of this interpretation and have not explained. Only Steve Nicol on ESPN FC has correctly discussed this on TV.

    • bryan says:

      this is a fair argument and every US fan, including myself, used this argument when Canada scored on us in the Gold Cup years ago after Gooch “deflected” a ball into the path of the Canadian player:

      link to youtube.com

      • Mason says:

        It’s hard to tell from that video, but at :40 it looks like he may have had a head offside when the ball was played. Or not, and he moved into offside position by the time the AR turned his head and looked at him.

        Either way, this is a good example of “gaining an advantage”.

        • bryan says:

          yeah, video isn’t great. most of this is from memory. but he looks onside to me. the other CB seems to be keeping him on when the pass is made. then Gooch appears to “clear/deflect” the ball but it goes into the path of the other player. some said it was a bad back pass and therefore not offsides. US fans at the time argued it was just a deflection/clearance and that Gooch can’t be punished for that incidental touch.

          • Mason says:

            That’s clearly a deflection. My only question on it is the onside-offside position. It’s very close, and I suspect the deflection caused the AR to look at the CAN player a little late (and thus after he had drifted into offside position).

    • seamus says:

      Thanks, Matt, looks like that answers my question above. I looked around but could not find a clear answer on defender deflections.

    • Mason says:

      Wrong. The point in time at which a players offside position is determined is when the ball is last played BY A TEAMMATE. The decision/clarification you are referring to applies to a situation where the attacking player (A1) is in offside position when a ball is played by a teammate (A2) and the ball deflects from a defending player (D1) to A1.

      That doesn’t apply in this case because when A2 played the ball, A1 was in onside position. A3 dummied the ball, but crucially, did not play it, meaning that you don’t reconsider A1′s onside-offside position. The AR thought A3 did play the ball, so he mistakenly considered A1′s position at that time. A1 was in offside position at that time, and got the the ball off a deflection from B1, so the AR judged A1 offside.

      He was wrong because he didn’t recognize/see the dummy and so he assumed that the ball had been played again by the SUI.

      • chris says:

        Its amazing how many people don’t know the rules

      • Matt says:

        It is the position of the attacking player at the moment the defender is actively playing the ball, as he is initiating a new play. The only time this does not not apply is if the defender intentionally plays the ball in that direction. This all stems from passive offside rulings and being able to not gain advantage from an offside position, either for the defender or attacker

        • Mason says:

          Matt: Please don’t take this the wrong way, but I know that you don’t know what you’re talking about when it comes to Law 11 because you refer to defenders gaining advantage from being in an offside position. That concept makes no sense because of the conditions that are required to be in an offside position, namely, that a player must be in the opponent’s half.

        • Mason says:

          I think your confusion is stems from the nature of the offside offense vs offside position. Everyone knows what it takes to be in offside position: opponent’s half, ahead of the ball, behind the second to last D. The offside offense, however, requries offside position when the ball was last played by a teammate and one of interfering with play, interfering with an opponent, or gaining an advantage.

          In this case, it is not offside because the player in question was not in offside position when the ball was last gained by a teammate. It doesn’t matter that he gained an advantage from his position, because his position was onside. The deflection from the opponent does not change that.

          • Mason says:

            Sorry… Second ‘graf, bolded should be: “was not in offside position when the ball was last played by a teammate.”

        • Dave says:

          You are so incorrect. From Laws of the Game:

          “A player in an offside position is only penalised if, AT THE MOMENT THE BALL TOUCHES OR IS PLAYED BY ONE OF HIS TEAM, he is, in the opinion of the referee, involved in active play.”

          Dos Santos was in an onside position at the moment the corner kick was taken by one of his team, so the fact that it took an incidental deflection by a defender is completely irrelevant.

          • Mason says:

            Technically, even if you are in offside position (yes, it’s barely possible) there can be no offside offense from a CK. Otherwise, spot on.

  20. Lil' Zeke says:

    Messi says all the same things as Donovan. Pu$$y

  21. Phony Meola says:

    No national anthems. We’re off to a good start in Porto Alegre.

    • JayAre says:

      Speakers don’t work. Of all the things that weren’t ready I’d think the speakers should be ready because it would be a pivotal part of evacuation in case of an emergency.

  22. bryan says:

    classic Honduras faking injury there.

    • RB says:

      Yes so far it seems that if Honduras is “representing” CONCACAF, here, it’s in the silly rolling over and over (and over and over and over) after contact…

  23. JayAre says:

    The French better get it together soon. If Honduras scores and goes into a defensive shell it’s over.

  24. bryan says:

    wow Palacios is a POS. seriously, F him.

  25. Jeff Carter says:

    Palacios is definitely trying to one-up Campbell’s diving exploits. What an embarrassment.

  26. Francois says:

    Wilson Palacios is a thug..despicable from him so far.

  27. Benjamin says:

    Absolutely shameful behavior from Polacios. He should be roundly ridiculed for the remainder of this tournament.

  28. jones says:

    Seriously the refs at the tournament need to familiarize themselves with typical CONCACAF antics asap.

    • jones says:

      I should say, though, that Costa Rica played smart and disciplined yesterday and deserve the applause for their win. They did not resort to hacking down opponents and feigning injury.

      • Jeff Carter says:

        Did you watch Campbell yesterday?

        • jones says:

          haha, yeah. He showed less antics than he usually does! His teammates were solid.

        • Increase says:

          Well that One Uruguayan definitely deserved that Red. That wasn’t a flop. He kicked the fdaswe out of his shins.

          Did he roll around extra? Oh ya, but that was a red.

  29. RB says:

    Starting to wonder where all that CONCACAF fanboy-type love is today, after seeing it out unforced here yesterday…

    • RB says:

      *in force (of course)

      And that was supposed to be a rely to jones’ comment, as well, but whatever…

    • JJ says:

      Can’t win ‘em all.

      Three out of four (hopefully!) ain’t too shabby, though!

  30. chris says:

    hahah good f*ck Honduras

  31. RB says:

    Wow… Could 1 player do more harm to his team’s chances at the tournament in less than a half of play than Palacios has just finished doing?

  32. JayAre says:

    And the blow out begins

  33. Francois says:

    Glad he’s gone. Horrible challenge, and it probably would have haopened sooner or later.

  34. jones says:

    well earned – Congrats!!!

  35. JayAre says:

    So far FIFA’s getting their money’s worth on the goal line technology

  36. Shawn says:

    oh look goal line technology is rigged too

    • JayAre says:

      That was a goal, what were you looking at?

    • RB says:

      Yes, perhaps it’s programmed with the lists of money-making and non-money-making sides, such that it would not have declared that a goal if the same thing had taken place on the other end of the field…

  37. The Other Jeff says:

    Within the margin of error of GLT.

  38. RB says:

    There you go, France. Now just to get Evra out of there, too…

  39. Amru says:

    Had this been a concacaf official I doubt palacios would have even received a yellow card. It’s amazing how unbiased and competent officiating changes the look of a game against Honduras

  40. JayAre says:

    Benzema? Top scorer? Could it be?

  41. JayAre says:

    Theres gotta be something in the water in Brazil causing all these goals and Since it seems goals with be the narrative of the tournament the US better not play the same conservative counter attack non sense tomorrow

  42. RB says:

    Why do you use your last sub to take off Valbuena when Evra is sitting on a yellow and has been hurt already 2-3 times this match and you’re up by 3 goals?

  43. usaalltheway says:

    That last goal was amazing. To hit it at that angle is something.

    I usually don’t care for Benzema but he is proving his worth today.

    But really, who is really for Messi? That is all I care about today. I want to see him take this Cup. He deserves it IMHO.

    • usaalltheway says:

      who is READY* for Messi….

    • JJ says:

      Incredibly overrated. Would love to see him fall on his face, but the team around him (like at Barcelona) is too good to have that happen unfortunately.

      • JJ says:

        Can’t wait for everyone to drool over him for knocking in 5 PK’s this tourney, though. SUCH STUNNING PLAY BY MESSI! ANOTHER PK/TAP IN!

      • Quit Whining About Soccer in the US says:

        Troll much ?

      • usaalltheway says:

        JJ, Benzama plays for Real Madrid.

        And yes, he is very overrated. But the team around him is amazing. Makes you wonder about Jozy in a way. Could he be scoring hat tricks if he was surrounded by such class? Just musing aloud…

  44. Mikeg says:

    Can’t wait for Argentina and Bosnia-Herzigovina. Both teams have a go for it approach in there game.

  45. JayAre says:

    Finally the Messi’ah steps on the field.

    • usaalltheway says:

      ALL HAIL THE GREAT!!!!!!!

      This is definitely one game I have been waiting for.

      GOD I LOVE THE WORLD CUP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  46. JayAre says:

    This is going to be an easy game for Argentina, the home field advantage is crazy

  47. usaalltheway says:

    Am I only the person noticing these strange formations?

    The Christmas tree, 4-3-2-1. The 3-5-2. What is that all about?

    Is the 4-3-3 dead? I at least saw the 4-4-2 used.

    What kind of formation is Argentina using?

  48. frank from santiago says:

    GOOOOOOL ARGENTINA!!!

  49. JayAre says:

    GOALLLLLLLLLLLLL!!!!!!!!! That was quick!

  50. usaalltheway says:

    And the connection cuts out right before the goal. Then it takes 5 minutes to get back…

  51. Nate Dollars says:

    messi’s been playing like sad cristiano lately. still good, but not other-worldly, and he acts like he couldn’t care less.

    • frank from santiago says:

      it’s also hard when you have all of bosnia dropping back as soon as Argentina gets control of the ball. not much space.

      • Nate Dollars says:

        that’s understandable. then again, messi’s made a career out of making that seem easy. which was my point: he’s looking pretty ordinary.

    • Nate Dollars says:

      if you’re having trouble picking him out of all the other short light-skinned guys, he’s the one who looks like he doesn’t give a sh!t.

      • usaalltheway says:

        It’s a shame how right you are.

        He looks like he would rather be anywhere else.

        All of his passes have been off, he isn’t attacking in his usual fashion and he seems generally displeased. Something isn’t right here…

        • Nate Dollars says:

          hey, it got a little easier to pick him out! nice to be wrong on that one. :)

          • usaalltheway says:

            Totally agreed!

            Something “clicked” and that Messi we have all come to know and love came alive.

            His passing, movement, attacking…all were amazing in that second half.

  52. frank from santiago says:

    haha…i’m argentinian I know who’s who, just pointing out that bosnia are playing the counter ,therefore not much room to attack.
    thx for the ” light-skinned guys” comment, though.

  53. RB says:

    Argentina does not exactly look like a side that can challenge to win this tournament, the way things are going so far here. They need some sort of live wire or spark, maybe like Lavezzi usually provides…

  54. frank from santiago says:

    guys Argentina is winning. there are a few more games left to play. they’ll turn it on when its necessary. not need worry. i understand everyone wants the big 4-5 teams to score 5 goals a game, but it must be understood that 1 game doesn’t make a tournament…. by the way all of a sudden sabella has changed the tactics for this game….why ? I don’t know.,, we’ve played the last 4-5 yrs w/ 3 forwards, yet not today…..we’ll see.

    • Nate Dollars says:

      agreed; i think argentina will turn it on when they need to.

      my opinion about messi was also derived from his whole last season with barca; it’s certainly not an argentina thing.

    • RB says:

      Don’t think anybody said this was a crucial game for them. They just don’t look like a very together or threatening side so far here, especially for one often mentioned as a candidate to win the whole thing.

      And yes, they’re winning — don’t think anyone is confused on that point, either — but they’re winning by the slimmest of margins, and only because of a lucky (for them) own goal.

  55. usaalltheway says:

    Time for Argentina to throw numbers forward. What is that, 5 forwards now??? hahahaha

  56. JayAre says:

    I wasn’t expecting these 2 teams to be this boring.

  57. RB says:

    There it is!

  58. frank from santiago says:

    GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL…..MESSI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  59. JayAre says:

    Lionel Messi’ah!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Golazo!!!!!!!!!

  60. Nate Dollars says:

    well hi there leo.

  61. frank from santiago says:

    HELLO

  62. usaalltheway says:

    Now that is what I want to be seeing. That goal, the passing, the skill set…the movement. Come on Messi!!!!

  63. JayAre says:

    Goal for St. Louis.

  64. espada says:

    Even though it looks like an easy group on paper, Argentina have to be more alert. Can’t give away soft goals like that to let them back in the game. Though, I expect them to pick it up , especially once Messi gets going.

    • frank from santiago says:

      agree. although when your keeper is second string in their club, you hope for the best. i’d take guzan in a heartbeat.;)

  65. JayAre says:

    Tomorrows running commentary should be crazy.