USA vs. Honduras: Match Day Commentary

By IVES GALARCEP

SAN PEDRO SULA, Honduras– Now is when things get real.

The U.S. Men’s National Team takes on Honduras today in the opening match of the Hexagonal Round of CONCACAF World Cup Qualifying (4pm, beIN Sport), a critical game for a group of Americans looking to get off to a strong start before playing two of their next three qualifiers on the road.

It is a hot and sunny day at Estadio Olympico and the U.S. team will be facing a very tough challenge in a hostile environment against a dynamic Honduras team that will be eager to get their qualifying campaign off to a winning start at home.

Here is the the lineup U.S. head coach Jurgen Klinsmann has opted to go with against Los Catrachos: Tim Howard (captain); Timmy Chandler, Omar Gonzalez, Geoff Cameron, Fabian Johnson; Danny Williams, Michael Bradley, Jermaine Jones, Eddie Johnson; Clint Dempsey, Jozy Altidore.

SBI will be providing live commentary on today’s match, including updates from San Pedro Sula, so feel free to follow along here. As always, you are welcome to share your thoughts and opinions.

Enjoy the action (Today’s Match Commentary is after the jump):

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317 Responses to USA vs. Honduras: Match Day Commentary

  1. Steve says:

    First.

    • Lake says:

      Dude you are so cool!

    • Michael Stypulkoski says:

      Don’t. Just don’t.

    • bizzy says:

      ————————————–HOWARD———————————————-

      –CHANDLER—-GONZO———CAMERON———-FABIAN J.————-

      ———–JONES———————WILLIAMS——————BRADLEY——-

      —-DEMPSEY—————–ALTIDORE——————JOHNSON————-

      Not what I expected…..no Bocanegra in defense, I’M PERFECTLY OK WITH THIS.
      Things are going to be interesting……….

  2. TC says:

    Not a fan of Zusi starting. Really would like to see Jozy in the lineup as well. JK needs to put the emotions aside and make the right pick up top.

  3. KP says:

    Howard ©; Chandler, Gonzalez, Cameron, F. Johnson; Williams, Jones, Bradley, E. Johnson; Dempsey, Altidore

    Line up per US Soccer…welcome to the big time Mr. Gonzalez

    • Wispy says:

      That’s hopefully a 4-3-3 and not a 4-4-2 with Williams on the right.

    • Chris Whyte says:

      Yay for the real lineup! This is who I would start out of this squad, except maybe Williams.

    • beachbum says:

      WOW if true. Come on Gonzo!!!

      • Neruda says:

        JK with all the confidence in Omar G. Good to see Omar getting the start and convincing he’s better than Boca. Maybe Boca is slightly injured or something. I like the lineup and see top subs being Zusi, Edu, and perhaps defender if the US find themselves with a tie or lead in the second half.

    • TomG says:

      I’m shocked! I thought for sure that Klinsi would feel compelled to start Boca to balance out that inexperienced (Internationally speaking) back line. Psyched Jozy is starting. Surprised no Herc.

    • DJ says:

      Need a link if you are claiming US Soccer is listing this–it does not appear on their website.

    • Josh D says:

      Great line-up! We’re going to attack in our usual 4-3-3. I’m glad to see us not bunkering down.

      Very surprised to see Gonzo getting the start, but I admire Klinsi’s balls. People wanted youth – here it is!

      Let’s go US!!!!!! Damn you BeIN!

      • OPMG says:

        You admire his balls? eww…

      • White Kix says:

        How are we not bunkering down? We have three defensive midfielders (Yes, I included Bradely). The midfield will not be able to get the three forwards the ball, so at least two of them will track back half the game. Bradley’s formations with two defensive midfielders, two forwards and two wingers who got forward more than they defended were far less defensive than this line-up. Best case scenario, this plays more like a 4-3-1-2, but it will really turn into a 4-5-1.

        • THomas says:

          We also have two fullbacks who are great at attacking and can add width when appropriate.

        • Josh D says:

          For the billionth time, Bradley is NOT a DM and has not been for some time. He’s a CM player. And Jones while traditionally a DM, does not play as one in this formation. That’s where the argument comes in: Should we play a proper CM instead?

  4. Luetchy says:

    LeanderLastNameNoFit ‏@LeanderOnFOX
    Am told lineup for the US against Honduras is: Howard; Chandler, Cameron, Bocanegra, Johnson; Williams, Jones, Bradley, Zusi; Dempsey, Gomez

    …2.5DMs, No Altidore

    • Dudester says:

      Say hello to the we dont expect to win this game line up.Leanders line up. The one before “per us soccer” is just outrageous.

      • Luetchy says:

        Leander was wrong… US Soccer just tweeted out that other one.

        U.S. Soccer ‏@ussoccer
        #USMNT lineup for #USAvHON: Howard ©; Chandler, Gonzalez, Cameron, F. Johnson; Williams, Jones, Bradley, E. Johnson; Dempsey, Altidore

        • Dudester says:

          Risky to go with Gonzalez over Boca.Good for Klinsi.Surpriesd to see EJ over Gomez.

          • beachbum says:

            agree on Gonzo over Boca, on the road in the opening round of the Hex!!! wow, that’s a surprise. wow…Go Gonzo!!!!

          • deuceman says:

            Boca has became much slower over the years, it’s time to change. It’s a little bit risky on a away Hex-game, but I’m happy with this.

    • Jeb says:

      not the right lineup…check the above link^

  5. Franklin says:

    Upsetting to not see Jozy getting his chance at redemption today. Impossible to deny his form. Troubling to think Klinsy may let his grade school girl fight with Altidore keep him from putting the best players on the field.

    Off my soap box now…..

  6. QuakerOtis says:

    If Jozu does not start, I am hoping (pure speculation) that it has to do with us saving his energy while we absorb pressure for the first 45-60. I’m hoping it isn’t because Klinsy is a little girl.

  7. Dustin says:

    Does BeIN Sport have online streaming for the game?

    • Luetchy says:

      no, and don’t even think about googling “firstrowsports (dot) eu”

    • Matt says:

      No, but a FAQ on their website says that they will “soon”. They’ll use the ESPN3 model…you have to be a cable/satellite subscriber to use it.

  8. Vic says:

    Great line-up with alot of skill. I actually thought this would be the line-up. Wahl predicted the same thing. Ives predicted Altidore and Edu starting. Thanks god they won’t be.

  9. Spencer says:

    #USMNT lineup for #USAvHON: Howard ©; Chandler, Gonzalez, Cameron, F. Johnson; Williams, Jones, Bradley, E. Johnson; Dempsey, Altidore

  10. Lake says:

    Spencer has the right lineup. No Boca is huge IN Honduras with a young back line. Wow. Bet we see Zusi and Gomez around 65′-70′.

    • beachbum says:

      good call. very surprised no Boca IN Honduras. Omar must have really balled in camp

      • TomG says:

        That is my big question. Did Omar look so good that it was impossible to keep him out, was Boca so bad that Klinsi felt he couldn’t use him, or is this just a wild roll of the dice where Klinsi is completely unconcerned with having an Internationally experienced back line anchor?

        • Dudester says:

          I’ll go with the third scenario

        • Benny Dargle says:

          One thing Omar has is that he has played against a lot of the Honduran players in MLS. Just in the playoffs, he played against most of them with San Jose, Seattle, and Houston. Plus, he has been guarded by San Jose’s Honduran centerback on set pieces a bunch of times, so he knows his defensive style very well. He may not have the int’l experience (although he has some CCL experience), but he probably knows these particular players and their tendencies better than Bocanegra does.

          • beachbum says:

            good call.

            Tom and Dudester, I hope it’s not option 3!

          • QuakesInYourPanties says:

            What you meant to say is Omar remembers how to jump over the ball for a goal when a Honduran CB takes a free kick.

            link to youtube.com

            There is a reason that the biggest weakness in the US game is the back line. JK took his gamble and now we all have to hope that it pays off.

  11. Iheartscotch says:

    No real surprises. I like zusi as one of our only true wing players on the squad but I agree above I like to see jozy start. Have Gomez be a 60-70 min sub. He is a beast of the bench. Plays into his hustle roll and nose for the ball when the opposing defenders are tired and he is fresh.

  12. Joamiq says:

    Not happy with this lineup. Tough to see it generating too many chances. Need some width, need some speed, need more guys who can provide service to the forwards. The fullbacks will really have to get involved in the attack. This lineup should still get the job done against Honduras regardless, but this is not the optimal way to deploy our talent.

  13. KEEP says:

    Could be trouble for them on set pieces, this is a BIG US team.

  14. the unmistakeable Ronaldinho says:

    Looks like Klinsmann has found his plan to go for on the road in CONCACAF. narrow midfield, outside backs getting forward and sending in crosses to the big guys (clint, ej, jozy are all aerial threats). Very surprised by not having Boca in there. That is a very inexperienced backline who have never played together before (only had 1 day to practice). Timmy has never been shy about getting guys organized though

  15. John says:

    perfect lineup (as long as Williams is in the middle!). Jozy has his chance, now he needs to make the most of it. I bet Omar is stoked (along with Cameron – sorry). He is all the way back from that very ill-timed injury, and now he has to show everyone that he is deserving. Hoping for a 2-1 victory, would settle for a 1-1 result

    • TomG says:

      Extraordinarily difficult environment, biased CONCACAF refs, and a good Honduras team. I’d be thrilled with 1-1 as long as we play positively.

  16. Victor says:

    I love this lineup. Dempsey, Altidore, and Johnson up top……Back line so glad he’s giving Gonzo a chance, you gotta start some somewhere in a big game, hopefully this is great things to go with that line.

  17. ernj says:

    Any idea on the 1 player who didn’t dress?

  18. David M says:

    The backline is too inexperienced. Three defensive mid’s again. Don’t see where the service to Jozy and EJ is coming from.

    Of course, if we don’t get a good result, Klinsmann will blame it on the mentality of American players.

  19. ford says:

    Do we know the bench yet?

  20. Dudester says:

    ——–Jozy——
    EJ———Dempsey
    Bradley——Jones
    ——Williams——
    FJ—–Gonzo—-Cam—-Chandler
    ———–Howard———–

    The three surprises Gonzo over Boca.EJ over Gomez who’s in season.Williams over Edu the leas surprising.

    • Thebumswillalwayslose says:

      That’s how I see it lining up. Plan would be to clog the middle, force the Hondurans out wide and make them hit crosses into the box, where Omar and Geoff’s superior height and aerial ability will allow them to eat up anything that comes through.

      Welcome to the big time Mr. Gonzalez…..

  21. Bac says:

    Im betting he is starting Jozy & EJ thinking that Herc & Zusi can provide a spark off the bench if needed that Jozy & EJ cant … think about it, If I were in a bind I’d rather have Herc off the bench than Jozy

    • Thebumswillalwayslose says:

      ^ This. Jozy and EJ need time to find the game. Herc will just come in and start busting his ass no matter when he gets on the field, and is much more likely to poach a goal off tired defenders in the 70th minute than he is when they’ve got fresh legs in the first half.

  22. riggity21 says:

    %$%^&%#@#$…definitely thought the game had been started for 30 mins and just realized they were saying 3pm CENTRAL time…who does that anymore? I’d rather hear Neil Everett tell me what time they play in Hawaii…

    • Geoff says:

      Central Time is the local time zone in Honduras.

      • riggity21 says:

        I know that…but when the Heat play the Lakers on the west coast we usually hear what time they play on the east coast. Regardless, I’m happy to be confused…

  23. Hunt Daddy says:

    This lineup isn’t as bad as I expected. I would feel more comfortable if the team had more width further up the pitch. Hopefully this young back 4 doesn’t get pinned back early on and the outside backs can stay commmitted to the attack. I’m interested to see if EJ plays more centrally as he did vs. Canada or works the left flank. I think if he stays wide in this match he’ll open up a lot of space underneath Altidore for Dempsey/Bradley to work in. I’m still not convinced EJ is the long-term answer at LW, though.

  24. 2tone says:

    I really like the starting 11. We have speed, athleticism, and experience. This is the starting 11 I wanted to see, and Klinsmann provided it. Now lets take it to Honduras and take the full three points.

  25. ACS says:

    Chandler and Johnson should be able to whip it in to EJ, Demps and Jozy.

  26. Conrad says:

    Can I confess that I read this thread, and 15 minutes before kickoff, I have complete butterflies. I’m at work, swamped with ßhit that other people are late in getting to me, but all I can think about is how Deuce and Jozy will link up. Soccer again! Fück yeah!

  27. beachbum says:

    Big game going forward for Chandler maybe? could be, but his teamwork with Gonzo and Williams defensively will be key

  28. Jeb says:

    Does anyone know why we got all costa rican refs?

    • Iggy says:

      The crew is gererally always from one country. Sometimes the 4th official is from somewhere else.

    • AC says:

      May be a subtle and good thing. Costa Rica is Honduras’s biggest rival in the region. They hate each other.

    • ed - houston says:

      usually concacaf refs (a quartet) from one country do the officiating… its kind of good from costa rica… i prefer the mexican refs they are good — as long as they dont have any bias or anything

  29. Todd says:

    Any links to online streams. I have FIOS and they do not carry BeIN

  30. AC says:

    Good lineup. At first, I wasn’t sure about 2 d-mids in Jones and Williams but in an away match, they will be needed to stop the Hondurans who will be relentless going forward. Hopefully the USA can get the crowd out of the game early and then insert more offensive players to go for the kill.

  31. Goalscorer24 says:

    Trial by fire for Gonzo. Hope he can do it!

  32. Goalscorer24 says:

    This is an exciting lineup!

  33. Raymon says:

    Productivity in the office went from 18% to -6%

  34. Jason says:

    Kobi jones will be getting kicked…

  35. Michael says:

    Stoked about Gonzo…calling a goal for him off a corner.. really terrified that Williams is starting..hopefully he doesn’t make a back pass to the wrong guy

  36. Matt says:

    I have been critical of JK at times, but I understand his squad selection a little better now as he seems committed to playing the 4-3-3 in this match. Fingers crossed we gel and manage to make this formation work for us.

  37. Dudester says:

    Game time.Crakcs open his 5th malt liquor Of the day.

  38. Amru says:

    I just don’t understand where the service to our forwards is going to come from.

  39. NICK says:

    anybody got a link for this game?

  40. daggius says:

    link to stream pleaz

  41. RB says:

    And with that kick-off, Timmy Chandler is cap-tied to the US, finally!!!

  42. beachbum says:

    already being questioned up the US right flank defense

  43. jayboy says:

    I’m watching this in Spanish on BeIn… does anyone know if there is like a radio broadcast or audio coverage I could stream somewhere?

  44. Matt says:

    Wow, giving Honduras a lot of time and space in their attacking third

  45. Dudester says:

    I see the right side with Gonzo and Chandler being the weaker side of d for us.

  46. beachbum says:

    EJ started the whole flurry with his defensive intensity at the point

  47. Dudester says:

    Breakaway for Honduras that results in offside,after a Dempsey flop.

  48. Matt says:

    Lucky, backline looking very unstable. Honduras controlling possession.

  49. jidax says:

    what website people ??

  50. BD says:

    Is anyone else having trouble with beIN? its all distorted here in San Diego on Time Warner. I could kill someone right now!

  51. Dudester says:

    Honduras with more possession.The USA cb’s not playing out well.bombing the ball out the back.

  52. Matt W says:

    Good to see Jozy and Eddie pressuring defensively. Watched some of Brazil-England earlier and Brazil’s high pressure was awesome to watch, turned into a goal for Fred.

  53. Dudester says:

    For f sakes play on the ground backline.

  54. Matt W says:

    soon as I wrote that, they both stopped working, just walking around being lazy.

  55. Matt says:

    Finally, strung together a couple of passes and delivered a cross.

  56. Bac says:

    Either our guys are smoking some serious ganja or it must really be humid….

  57. Dudester says:

    We dont have an outlet in mf.Forcing the ball to the backline who then bomb it forward.

  58. Dudester says:

    I would suggest Demps drop back in mf.Making a 4-5-1 we need a creative mid in front of the 3.

  59. Ryan says:

    Is there any way to hear this on the radio!?!?!?!

  60. ed - houston says:

    should have went with a 442

  61. beachbum says:

    so close on the counter!

  62. Dudester says:

    Our first chance.Demps drops through the middle plays a ball to EJ on the left wing.Crosses it to Jozy who scuffs it over the bar.

  63. Eric says:

    Not really enjoying the German American right flank

  64. Dudester says:

    For some reason we continue getting penetrated down our right side.

  65. Matt says:

    Gottta say Jones looks exhausted already and the Honduran players are having success when they pressure him as he is waiting for the ball to come to him.

    • Matt says:

      Ha! maybe that is why they are pressuring him; they give him some space and what a chip to Dempsey!

  66. ed - houston says:

    bench gonzo and put in besler

  67. Bac says:

    Im smellin Zusi very soon… wait… that sounded weird

  68. Dudester says:

    Yesssssss Dueceeeeeee

  69. Oaktown says:

    Deuce!!!

  70. RB says:

    Wonderful pass fron Jermaine Jones!

  71. Gnarls says:

    Effin’ brilliant. Deuce face!

  72. Dudester says:

    What a pass by Jones over the top.What a right footed volley over the shoulder from Deuceeeeeeeees

  73. JJ says:

    Deuce!! too exhausted to celebrate!

  74. Dudester says:

    What a pas from Jones over the top.What a volley by Dempsey with his right foot over the shoulder.

  75. David M says:

    Yes!!!! And the linesman’s flag stayed down!

  76. David M says:

    I am afraid Timmy will be getting a yellow soon for time wasting.

  77. beachbum says:

    great goal! US right side still shaky

  78. JC says:

    What a goal by Honduras.

  79. Conrad says:

    wow.
    where the hell is the sense of urgency from the US players? they act is if it’s demeaning to play hard against a supposed minnow. This is terrible to watch.

  80. Dudester says:

    The Honduran cb scores a bike against us.That was meant to happen.

  81. JC says:

    Don’t know who’s to blame Timmy C or MB90

  82. cps says:

    Is Chandler trying to throw the match? What’s the deal with him today?

  83. Dudester says:

    Dempsey and more importantly JONES not tracking back enough.Allowing us to continually get raped down the right side.

  84. beachbum says:

    foul on Bernardez, Clint gets nailed, no call. that is Bernardez’s game, amog other qualities; he takes lsome licks on you out there

  85. chris says:

    Can we stop this love affair with Chandler. Hes looked bad in the bundesliga and has looked bad today. Its sad hes allowed to walk into this team when he feels like it and start

  86. Eric says:

    Chandler looks gassed.

  87. David M says:

    Maybe we would’ve been better off had Chandler not committed…

    • Dudester says:

      Not all the fault is on Chandler.Every time the ball is played to their lw Jones is no where to be seen.

  88. Kent says:

    Very lax passing from the US.

  89. Bac says:

    Looks to me like the German-American contingent cant handle this continent’s weather….
    or maybe we just suck

  90. AC says:

    Defense playing lazy….Got to give props to Honduras with forcing the game at the USA….Way too much space and no one pressing Honduras players on the flanks…They are getting too much time to whip in crosses….

  91. Michael Stypulkoski says:

    I really dislike the graphic that beIN feels compelled to show before and after every replay. It’s annoying and time-consuming. I rarely want to see replays, I never want to see a network’s graphics, even if it only lasts a second or two.

  92. byrdman says:

    Atta way guys, let’s attack everyone who makes a mistake. It’s a 90 minute game, relax. have a little perspective. More good than bad right now. Chandler is struggling, but its his first game in central america. Plus the tactics of saving energy, make sense, but maybe mentally it has led to a bit of lethargy.

    I live in the Dominican Republic. You may not believe me, but sometimes its like someone suck all the air our the sky and its hard to do anything with much energy. They are professional athletes and need to find a way.

    • chris says:

      Its weird because I live in Florida and it feels more humid here then when i go on fishing trips to costa rica

  93. AC says:

    Looks like the World Cup Qualifying veteran presence is missing….This team looks scared…..I know playing away games is tough in CONCACAF, but come on….They are playing a step behind with ABSOLUTELY NO URGENCY…..Maybe Hercs, Sacha, Torres, etc need to be inserted…I’m not saying they are world beaters, but have at least been there…..

  94. beachbum says:

    no Dolo is hurting

    how about change system to 4-4-2, sub Zusi or someone for Williams and stick him right and make sure he digs back to help; Chandler needs smoe help locking it down out there seems to me

  95. TomG says:

    USA getting outworked thus far. We knew Honduras would come out of the gate fired up. Hopefully they will tire in the 2d half. Chandler looks gassed. Can he handle the heat and humidity?

  96. MikeG says:

    Klinnsman roster is designed not to lose and to counter. Not any good possession in midfield. I understand getting the most talent on the field at the same time is a good idea, but at the cost of possession and attack? Jones in the right wing? Wrong! EJ on left wing? Wrong! We have midfielders that can play better than Jones and EJ at those positions and they sit! This has got to be not only frustrating for fans, but the players too! I need a drink (or two).

    • beachbum says:

      agree he came out with a lineup to counter today, which hasn’t been the norm at all. guessed this might have been the case, was interesting to see it materialize. would have been fine except for that awesome goal, and it was awesome

  97. zztoppppp says:

    Bring in Besler and move Cameron to RB, get Chandler out of there

    • beachbum says:

      maybe this is the best answer right now. would be an amazing trial by fire for that group

    • MikeG says:

      put in a proper midfielder on the right to work with Chandler….same on the other side too…Honduras is having there way on the wings…

  98. wilyboy says:

    I have to say, the only player I can think to blame for the goal was Bradley. His strange clearance that Chandler struggled to correct led to the corner kicks. It really gifted Honduras momentum from a nothing situation. Nothing you can do with a brilliant goal, though.

    Chandler has been pretty bad, and is definitely feeling the heat, but on that play Bradley was more at fault.

    But let’s focus on the positive. Howard is beast, and Dempsey killed it.

  99. ed - houston says:

    sub TC out for besler, put gonzo and besler in the middle and cameron out right

  100. Conrad says:

    at work and not listening to stream. any subs at the half?

  101. TomG says:

    I can’t imagine Klinsi was dumb enough to overwork them in training but they look awfully heavy legged and he’s done it before.

  102. ed - houston says:

    US players are more fit than Hon. we should be able to wear them down physically

  103. beachbum says:

    tactical change is playing the long ball to bypass the midfield and then win the second ball…working so far

  104. Dudester says:

    Jones for Klejstan please.

    • markwriter says:

      out with Jones, agreed. Not sure Klejstan is the sub to make, though. Torres is a better choice to deal with the Central American atmosphere.

  105. TomG says:

    Too many stopovers to no effect from EJ. Make the simple play. Guys were streaming wide open. Knock it past and make the cross or cut it back

  106. beachbum says:

    other tactic change has JJ wide right now, marking back up the line, along with playing mdore direct looking to win second balls

  107. Dudester says:

    We just dodged a bullet.offside on the Hon goal.

  108. juan says:

    JK better start warming up some people before its too late

  109. Dudester says:

    Williams for Edu.Klinsi playing for the draw.No Gomez or Torres or Klejstsn?

  110. deuceman says:

    after these US-corners, we really need BRAD DAVIS.

  111. beachbum says:

    Gonzo!!! yeah baby

  112. Dudester says:

    Feilhaber would’ve been invaluable in this game.Instead of two stk, Benny in front of the 3 behind the stk.

  113. MikeG says:

    We should see some poise and composure with Sasha

  114. TomG says:

    Poor defending by Omar. You KNOW Carlo is going for that drag move. Also a bad job by JJ. He had guys wide open in the offensive third yet he takes 3 extra touches and turns it open. Move the ball!

  115. gotim says:

    Franco Panizo’s drinking a haterade smoothy.

  116. Vic says:

    Terrible line up with very little skill out there. We could dominate possession if we had the right players out there. Mexico wouldn’t come in get dominated and try to counter attack and neither should we.

  117. MikeG says:

    good midfield changes….

  118. David M says:

    Boy, this is dangerous. All 3 subs already made, and still over 20 minutes left.

  119. juan says:

    well be lucky to get out with a tie

  120. David M says:

    Chandler should’ve been the first sub. Let us pray now.

  121. JC says:

    Wow Chandler! You were holding out for the German NT, and frankly, you’re not good enough for our team. Man I miss Stevie Cherundolo!

    • Eurosnob says:

      Let’s not jump to conclusions based on one game or single out one player, it’s his first concacaf road qualifier and frankly the rest of the team has not looked great.

    • Chris says:

      completely agree. all this fuss to cap tie him. not showing that he wants to play for this country

  122. gotim says:

    E.E.U.U. es muy despacio

  123. JC says:

    Jesus…….. It was just a matter of time.

  124. RB says:

    Bad play by both Cameron and Gonzalez…

    • beachbum says:

      yes it was, Howard in on it too

      • RB says:

        Might have to watch it again but I couldn’t go that far. Not after Cameron misses and then Gonzalez spectacularly misses. It’s asking a lot of your GKer to still make the play, at that point…

      • RB says:

        OK, think you’ve got a good point, there, now that I see it again.

        Still I cannot blame him as much as Gonzalez, in particular. How was he so lost back there? It’s not like he suddenly found himself on the wing or farther up, way out of position, or anything like that. That’s his spot and his job…

  125. Kris says:

    That sums it up. Pathetic play by the nats today.

  126. ed - houston says:

    mls duo strike

  127. juan says:

    I think all four defense positions are totally open at this point. None look like anything

    • scott47a says:

      +1
      Chandler horrible. Cameron almost as bad. Gonzalez falls asleep and gives up a goal. I’d say Johnson was the one of the four who was decent. The rest were below average.

  128. Vic says:

    No surprise at all with Klinnsmann’s terrible line-up.

  129. Chris says:

    gonzalez just let his team down! that was his ball to clear. way to casual!

  130. JC says:

    Anyone here think it might have been better to start Carlos at CB? I think it would have been beneficial to have an experienced CB to keep order. The back line looked shakey all game.

  131. MikeG says:

    Cameron is not a Center Back he is on outside back…like on Stoke. He is played out of position…Jones played out of position..EJ out of position..all this points to JK. For that matter Fabian Johnson is not a back he is a midfielder….qualifying does not look good this cycle…It’s these kinds of games that expose a team’s strength and weakness…JK fails to learn from mistakes, but tries to repeat the past.

    • JC says:

      Couldn’t agree more

    • Steve says:

      My thought after every single match. Why is it so difficult for JK to wrap his head around playing players in their natural positions. Drives me up the wall. Right now can’t help but argue that the single largest weakness on this team is JK’s tactical decisions.

  132. beachbum says:

    would like to squeak out a point here at the end of course, but it’s not like I feel we deserve a point from this performance. sure would be a lift

      • Conrad says:

        How on earth does the US deserve a point? Possession is all Honduras, we had … I can’t think of any true chances apart from Dempsey’s and that shot late. US looked poor. Very disheartening.

        • beachbum says:

          like I said Conrad, it’s not like I feel we deserve a point, we don’t and did not earn one. calm down man

  133. Dudester says:

    We’ve had no cohesion in the final third from our mids and fwds.

  134. thatkidnandez says:

    Graham Zusi you suck! #1 didnt play gomez #2edu? #Fabian on the wing with castillo as LB

  135. gotim says:

    no life at all on the USA attack.

  136. gotim says:

    walking dead.

  137. Lazio Curva Sud says:

    Anyone else catch that comment about “your old friend Eric Wynalda”?? Harkes clammed up, I guess it was addressed to the other guy.

  138. Raymon says:

    So the predictable excuse machine has churned out the following doozies:
    1. Honduras has really improved over the years. The gap is lessening.
    2. The travel and humidity
    3. Inexperienced squad that will only get better in the next 9 Hexies

    Based on this one, we are far from being a 2014 power. Keep working guys. It’s not too late, fortunately.

  139. RB says:

    At this point, and looking down the schedule, it’s a small relief to recall that the 4th place finisher in the CONCACAF hex no longer has to face a CONMEBOL opponent…

    • Phil says:

      I had to look that up because I’m feeling so pessimistic right now

      • RB says:

        Ha.

        Yeah some Asian team now gets the CONMEBOL also-ran, while somebody from Oceania plays the one from CONCACAF.

        I would like to think that’s a tad bit of insurance for the US (or for some CONCACAF team, at least), but then again, it probably won’t be easy either way…

  140. Josh D says:

    Everyone, including commentators, wanted Klinsi to use Gonzo in defense claiming Boca was too injured. Some even didn’t include him in the 23. Now Klinsi starts Gonzo and everyone throws him under the bus.

    Away, in heat, against a speedy team is asking for a more athletic defender. It was a gamble. But so was an old, just over an injury Boca. If he played Boca and we lost, people would bite Klinsi’s head off.

    Klinsi put out the side I wanted. I accept it didn’t work out. Now for the love of God can we see someone creative in central midfield????

    • TomG says:

      Almost all pundits had Boca starting. Bottom line is, though, we got completely outworked and outhustled all game. Honduras had the ball the whole match. You can’t win if you don’t have the ball. Klinsi is supposed to be this master of fitness science. Why does this team consistently come out looking tired and heavy legged? Jones is one of the best workers in the Bundesliga, yet he always looks tired for USA. What’s going on?

    • Old School says:

      I’ve consistently said Gonzalez shouldn’t be selected.

      So much for “everyone”.

      • beachbum says:

        Gonzo screwed up on that goal along with others, and considering he was palying next to Chandler, who was beaten repeatedly and in merciless fashion, his play wasn’t great but not bad; Chandler struggled so much JK had to shift JJ wide to help out and even change system looked like

        for his first game under fire, on the road in Honduras…so many other places to begin with this loss, but Gonzo shares blame on that last goal. true

    • Mike Lamb says:

      No one would have batted an eye if JK started Boca.

  141. juan says:

    I now believe Klinsman has to go. He is clueless on how to win games here

    • solles says:

      yeah what a great idea, replace your coach after one qualifyer :/. We’re not Mexico.

    • scott47a says:

      Well, it’s not so different than Bob Bradley’s empty bucket. The difference is Bradley had better players. Despite the growth of the game and its popularity in the US, the upcoming generation of players appears to be just simply not as good as the last. There is no new Landon Donovan. But more than that there isn’t a new Carlos Bocanegra, or Eddie Pope, or Brian McBride or even Pablo Mastroeni.

  142. Ben says:

    Not that my thoughts are worth anything, but Klinsi is repeating the mistakes of Bradley. Taking the best players is nice, but when they don’t include a single real winger, it is not a helpful or worthwhile strategy. You need some speed in this game. Eddie Johnson does a decent job, but you need more, even if they aren”t the best. Zusi is just too small and too slow for international ball.

  143. RB says:

    Wow, that replay of the last goal and Gonzalez haplessly looking around… painful to watch!

  144. ed - houston says:

    TRAJIC

  145. solles says:

    Have to place blame on three US players for the winning goal, Howard for lack of organization/communication, Cameron for getting beat too easily, Gonzalez for giving up on the play. Just poor all around.

    • Judging Amy says:

      Squarely on Cameron. After he gets beat the others are caught in bad positions trying to make up for his mistake.

  146. KJ says:

    Hindsight is 20/20. Our best lineup just didn’t get the job done. Well, best, and then Eddie Johnson.

  147. Ryan in NYC by way of NC says:

    Now watch Mexico catch an L too. Really make things interesting.

  148. Harry says:

    it’s simple. We don’t have the players.

    we don’t develop players like successful soccer nations do. We don’t have the soccer infrastructure that successful soccer natons do. We don’t have the same kind of football pyramid that successful soccer nations do.

    We develop players like they do in other American sports (sports that no other country players or cares to play) And we structure our soccer league like other American sports (when it’s abundantly clear there is a much more efficient and successful way to structure a soccer league). And then we go on the Internet and ask why we suck.

    It’s obvious why we suck.

    • Phil says:

      Sorry for my ignorance but if you have time, please explain what we should be doing…

      • Ja Ja James says:

        Great ask Phil! I get so tired of hearing this and yet I never hear a viable alternative.

      • Harry says:

        Henry Ford developed the assembly line and the most efficient way to produce automobiles. It was copied throughout the world by business. This is called the theory of rationalization.

        The same goes for soccer. Successful soccer nations have created a way to structure domestic soccer leagues and develop talent. It’s been copied throughout the globe. Even smaller countries use it, though not all are successful due to economics and population. But they all give it a go.

        We on the other hand do it the American way. We don’t follow the rest of the world. Why? I dunno..”MERICA” i guess. Or as some people who have no clue will say,”we do it the American way because the NFL is the most popular league in the world” Yeah, I don’t understand that argument either. But thats what they say.

    • chris says:

      Our system is the most european it has ever been and we are producing less top players

      • Harry says:

        we do not have a promotion/relegation league system and it is killing us. It is no coincidence that all of the FIFA top 25 countries have pro/rel.

        Pro/rel = more clubs. More clubs = lower barrier to entry for young players and shorter distance from player to club.

        This is so obvious.

    • mr coolio says:

      That is ridiculous. Even under Bunker Bob we played better, more attractive/threatening soccer. Recently I dont know what I’ve been watching. Atleast under previous coaches we had something to lean on. ie defense/set piece. Now we can’t even send in a proper corner kick. This is not about the players it’s about the coach. Klinsmann is a junk coach plain and simple. Dempsey plays better for his club, F.Johnson better for his club, Jozy better for his club. See a pattern here? Klinsmann doesn’t know how to use these players simple and plain.

  149. Raymon says:

    I shaved my legs for this?

  150. JR says:

    The back line was shaky and we didn’t have a ton of ideas on the attack. We looked collectively exhausted from the opening whistle. I hope they will find some urgency and cohesiveness moving forward. I thought Maurice Edu was a vast improvement over what Danny Williams brought in the midfield. Williams had no energy and he looked like a player with no confidence. I thought Timmy Chandler really had a poor game as well; he looked gassed after 20 minutes and was timid with the ball and in the tackle throughout the game. Gonzalez played like a player with 3 caps and Jermaine Jones turned the ball over repeatedly. Klinsmann has a lot to ponder between now and the next qualifier. It will be very interesting how many changes he makes.

  151. BigBlueAL says:

    Pretty simple still, we need Landon Donovan. Love him or hate him, he is still the best player in this country and arguably the most indispensable.

  152. BD says:

    I’m starting to think Klinsmann might have the right vision for youth development, soccer culture, and training in the US, but isn’t the right man for head coach. I like JK and I want him to do well as coach, but I truly believe he should be doing better with the team and selecting better starting rosters. And this isn’t just one result, we played very poorly to inferior competition all through the last qualifying round too.

  153. heff says:

    Surprised no one is bemoaning the lack of Donovan in the midfield. Seems like just the kind of thing one of us would be calling out as the cause of this loss. So disappointed in this board right now…

  154. vik says:

    Is that how Chandler plays in the Bundesliga? He seemed reluctant to close down wingers, and got beaten a few times when he did. Jones also seemed to be marking pretty loosely at least in the first half. Felt kinda bad for Kljestan out there on the left when he’s really suited for playing inside. Almost nothing in his game suits the wing.

    Defending was not great, but maybe it will get better over time. Set piece delivery was horrendous; Zusi needs to probably be on the field for that reason alone.

  155. Anthony says:

    Line up:

    I thought about this for quite some time, but this is the line up Klinsy has to follow. THis doesnt include Donovan who would switch into Gatt’s spot

    Either a 3-5-2

    ———————————————Howard————————————————

    —————Chandler————–Cameron——————Johnson——————

    —Gatt/Zusi———Bradley—–Feilhaber/Holden/Dix——–Jones/Williams——–Shea—-

    ———————————-Altidore—————Dempsey—————————

    or a 4-4-2, with a diamond midfield that can allow a quick 4-3-3 to switch into

    ——————————————Howard————————————-

    ——-Chandler———Boca/Omar——–Cameron———-Johnson—

    ——————————————Bradley——————————–

    ———-Gatt———————————————————Shea———

    ————————————Feilhaber/Holden/Dix———————–

    ————————Altidore/Aguedelo——Dempsey——————–

    • Anthony says:

      Cannot have three defensive midfields on the field. We cannot defend well enough. We should be running and gunning with these teams.

  156. Jim in Atlanta says:

    When will the US coaches learn that no matter the game you still need someone with some sort of creative ability in the midfield? I know the plan is to get the draw or should I say not lose, which is why some of these players were called up. But for goodness sakes how many games do we have to play with no 3 cdm and fail to create many scoring opportunities before they get the picture? Jozy is a good player but is highly ineffective without a decent midflield, clint holds the ball too long than tries to flop to get out of trouble, Fabian is the only playe with anyh type of ball control vision and skill on the field. hut he is wasted as a defender because our attack is so usleless. if we are going to run with these type of line ups fabian needs to play lm or lw. if we play a creative midfield with one cdm fabian would be great at lwb because our build up play would be better and forwards would be involved in attck more. why are we able too see these things on t.v. but the coaching staff seems inept when seeing it first hand? I’m just going to throw out some names here. Mixx, Corona, Morales, Gatt, Shea, Gyau, Tony Taylor, Benny, JOHN ANOTHONY BROOKS, Lichji, and of course ADU. Yes ADU. I’m not saying play the entire U23 team that failed. but add them in with vets like jozy, mb, clint, jones. Please.

    • Matt W says:

      Adu not run, Adu not run…….

      I’d agree with you on Freddie, IF he actually got himself in shape and played with consistent intensity. He is definitely more creative in the attack than anyone we had out there today, other than Dempsey.

      • BD says:

        Yeah Adu would’ve died in the heat and humidity of today in the shape he regularly keeps himself in.

    • MikeG says:

      JK is struggling with the Bradley generation. JK has not been very progressive as much as I am sure we would all like to see.

  157. Pete says:

    Everytime it’s the same old thing; people crying after a lose. The USA will be in the WC

  158. MikeG says:

    Honduras out played the USA. They earned that win. No complaints there…congrats to Honduras. Time after time U.S. players are being played out of position. Fabian Johnson should be on the left side of midfield…He plays with ‘vision’ and anticipates his teammates very well. Jones should be a Defensive Midfielder and not any other position. I’m going to stop right there. We need a formation overhaul with proper placement of players playing to there strength and greatest ability. WE have seen enough of trying to repeat the past win.

    • BD says:

      I agree our possession and stringing of passes together was atrocious. I don’t think I would move Fabian up though.

  159. Matt W says:

    Haven’t seen much of Chandler, but boy was he bad…..just plain lazy and uninspired. Sure looks like we need Landon back to have a chance at being dangerous, but I don’t think he’s coming back. Not sure what other options we have, if this game was anything close to typical, we are in big trouble. I like Johnson moved up to outside mid, but he was the only defender worth a damn today, so that makes that move awfully scary. Yes, it’s just one game, but it sure was a bad one.

  160. beachbum says:

    what I believe JK’s choices reveal is his lack of respect for this region’s games in these qualis, and this region’s away games for sure.

    And this opportunity in an away game in which the refs–the Costa Rican refs were great–played little role. But the lack of cohesion in the back came back to bite.

    JK likes gambling, some times it’s snake eyes

    • markwriter says:

      +1 on your comment about the refs. Excellent officiating in an away match completely wasted by the US.

  161. Cody Thrasher says:

    I’m very disappointed with the loss because we had one point in our grasp, but I’ll wait and see how we fare against Costa Rica before getting too nervous. If we come away from that with 0 or 1 point, I’ll start worrying. LOL.

    I thought EJ should have been left in the game, but that’s the only major gripe I had. Nothing major. We just didn’t get the job done when it counted the most.

  162. Eric says:

    Gonzalez sucks. Sucked against Canada. He can’t pass. Mistake to replace EJ with Klejstan. Zusi and Gonzo are not ready.

  163. MJC-DC says:

    I’d like to see a little stronger wing play next time and a more concerted team effort, team seemed under-prepared at times and we still lack an identity.

    I’ll hope, going forward, that the identity is based around the possession/attack minded football Klinsmann supposedly loves.

    Also, hope some of the young guys (or old just down the depth chart) recognize the opportunity they have. I think both wing positions should be in play and one of the midfield positions (Jones I feel, while he has his moments in attack, that brilliant chip, would be better off in Danny’s role). This goes for fullbacks as well (IMO).

    Lots of work to do going forward.

  164. jai_brooklyn says:

    The team looked gassed. I’m sure the conditions and the travel for Euro based players took its toll.

    With our depth, I’m not putting all blame on JK. Yet.

    Lets see where we stand after the the two upcoming road games.

  165. Jacob says:

    For those that don’t like Donovan this game should prove his worth. He was missed on set pieces, only 2 chances were created on however many corners and free kicks the US had. His tireless work rate was missed, most don’t see the defensive effort he brings. Instead we got players lolly gagging around like this is some pick up game. I know the weather conditions were harsh but at least show like you’re trying out there (jones). Also his overall experience in CONCACAF and qualifying. Really hope he decides to suit up for the USA again.

  166. Mike R says:

    Yes it’s no coincidence that a central Amercican team beat us. They have been knocking out our youth teams in major tournaments and now beating the sr team. Look at MLS and youth soccer to see the problem. Real lack of technical ability in MLS. They are offsetting the US team clost to nothing right now. Look at the top us club teams you will see great athletic ability with little technical ability hell we started 4 Germans three of who are better than anyone else we have to offer at their positions and we still sucked. Williams had been benched by go club and yet he plays for us? Cameron does not play CB much for stoke yet he starts there for us ?

  167. H-Town says:

    Brad Davis should have played. Maturity, a true winger, and he has played for club in Central America many times. He is calming presence on the ball and able to take on defenders one v one.

    • Dudester says:

      We just simply aren’t good enough.Going to every central America nation and getting a result is not realistic.Im sure we will win away in the hex.The key is to win all home games.

  168. markwriter says:

    I don’t know if I watch too much premier league or la liga, but surely we can expect better technical ability than what we just saw? The whole game was watching one player after another make momentum killing touches, passes and decisions. It was like a virus that spread from player to player.

    I thought Jones was particularly bad. I frankly don’t understand why he plays poorly for the US, but for whatever reason he seems to make poor decisions with too much energy rather than playing under control.

    I really can’t complain about Klinsmann’s subs, but I do wonder about the way the team came out. Really out of control, chasing the game, burning energy. Not sure hyper-focus on fitness is a great idea when most to all of your top players are in season with their clubs.

    Easy to say in hindsight, I guess.

    Klinsmann will need to respond to this, or he will need to be replaced if there is no improvement by game 3. Harsh, but true.

  169. Chad says:

    It wasn’t a skill issue, it was a desire issue. The US players played with little motivation, the Hondurans played to their potential…we were far from it.

  170. mr coolio says:

    Klinsmann is not a good coach plain and simple. What is our style of play? The team has regressed under Klinsmann and I’m not talking back to Bob Bradley, I’m talking regressed to before the Bruce Arena era. We have no identity what so ever. Even the effort isn’t there from these players.

  171. Jacob says:

    Creativity is sorely missed with this team. The Honduran keeper had to make 1 save. ONE save and that was a Dempsey shot from like 30 yards that rolled to him in the first 5 minutes. Can’t win if chances aren’t created. Time to stop calling in 7 DM/CMs. True wingers and creative mids need to get there chance. The Klinsmans era has been CMs and defensive mided players playing out of position.

  172. Rowsdower says:

    Yeah, I am starting to think that JK tactical ability is just not good enough.

  173. Dudester says:

    We’ve never been good enough to go through Concacaf with out some slip ups.On the other other hand Mexico has made enough strides in there level of play to get through Concacaf easily.

  174. MikeG says:

    What stood out from me was watching Honduras’ midfield on the wings and in the middle, on our half of the field, play simple passes towards the penalty area in the air and not all of them were EPL style crosses. They made A LOT of diagonal passes and diagonal runs. Honduras was more urgent to make these runs and passes. Gonzalez cleaned up his fair share of them, but Honduras also made lots of successful completed passes. I believe Gonzalez got his start to dominate the air in the final third. These simple passes turned into 2 gooooools. On the flip side, yin and yang if you will, The U.S. midfield left a lot to be desired. Honduras played a version of what they call in Hockey ‘crashing the net’ with passes and they did so diagonally…excellent game plan and simple. The U.S. can play the same. I remember when Poland played the U.S. and Poland had forwards and midfielders crash the right flank our LB and LM was outplayed. They had scoring opportunities from that kind of play. We can do the same. By the way what are we doing offensively lately?