Cameron scouted by European clubs

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Geoff Cameron's rise from MLS standout to the U.S. men's national team may very well culminate in a move overseas in the near future.

According to the Houston Dynamo broadcast from the club's win over FC Dallas over the weekend scouts from Everton, Stoke City and Schalke were in attendance with an eye on the U.S. national team centerback, who turns 27 next month.

Cameron attracting overseas interest is a developing trend. Last month, SBI reported that the versatile Cameron had suitors lining up in Germany, England, Portugal and the Netherlands. Cameron has two more years on his current deal with the Dynamo, and according to MLS' official website, Dynamo president Chris Canetti said that he is aware of the interest in Cameron but that no formal offers have been made to the club just yet.

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68 Responses to Cameron scouted by European clubs

  1. bryan says:

    i think it’s fantastic. this would be great for him and the USMNT if he can find the right club.

  2. Alan Jimenez says:

    He’s too young.

  3. Old School says:

    -Get some National Team Call Ups: check
    -Enter the conversation for up & coming CB’s in MLS: check
    -Have rumors about European interest: check
    -Have a bad year following the hype: check

    Sounds like Cameron is right on course for the Tim Ream fast track to Europe.

  4. Advocate says:

    Good for him; I think he’s a top player who needs to be pushed with regular playing time at a higher level. I’d be worried about PT in the EPL and think the Netherlands would be a great destination for a few years until he’s ready to move up even further.

  5. Dinho says:

    You’re kidding, right? 26? Too young?

  6. Twon says:

    This makes me feel good as a MLS fan, every time someone tries to down play MLS role in US soccer, makes me angry. I hope young players see that going to Europe may not be the best option.

  7. Stephen says:

    Make him sign a new contract so buyout clause is higher! He was a late round draft pick, his pay/buyout can’t be that high.

  8. The Imperative Voice says:

    Hmmm, Canetti didn’t deny it or say he’s not for sale. So that means something.

    Now, the rote MLS fanboy response to such things is the horribly confused notion that the transferee somehow makes his former team look better by being snagged. “See how good the Dynamo are he got picked up.” But the real fans paying attention know it can leave the team in the lurch. Anyone who’s watched the Dynamo midfield go downhill from the days of DeRo, Clark, and Holden knows that if your former players leave town and are not adequately replaced, whoop de do that “we produce high quality players attractive to Europe” because you’ve stuck me with the crap ones who aren’t.

    Of particular concern to me would be that Cameron is the last remaining athletic defender of decent quality left. Hainault, Boswell, and Taylor are all slow. Ashe sucks, as do the spot players who recently saw time against Vancouver in a 3-0 loss.

    I recall we once traded away DeRo for Julius James and a bucket of used athletic supporters, with the concept that the cleared cap would be useful. That trade was advocated by people around Houston who thought DeRo too big for his britches. We then, I believe, acquired the useless LA Landin, who graced our frontline on and off for a year and a half in the wilderness (neither James nor Landin is still in Houston, but DeRo won MVP). If handled poorly, there is a chance the Dynamo start fixing the offense only to botch the defense. So if Canetti has the idea of transferring Cameron in his head, he better have a replacement in mind, too. Well, not just in mind, but pretty much signed.

  9. Henry K CPA says:

    Not too shabby for a 3rd round draft pick.

  10. Twon says:

    Tim Ream sucked in MLS, adjusted to the EPL fine.

  11. Matt C in Tampa says:

    Hope it works out for him, but i had no idea he was that old.

  12. liltommyj says:

    Oh great we lose another player to Europe (Clark, Holden, Jaqua, Ngwenya, and now Cameron) and nobody to adequately replace them.

    I doubt with Canetti in charge we will get anyone of quality to replace him.

    It took 3 years to get OBG here as a DP.

  13. There you are says:

    Preach on JC. I think we should use the cash to bring back Sammy Appiah. We might get just enough in transfer funds to be able to afford him! Oh yeah, FIRE DOM.

  14. Alan Jimenez says:

    Well if he’s going to move to europe then he should move to a club in Denmark or Sweden and when he turns 30 he should move to mid table team in the premir league then he should be called into the national team.

  15. ManicMessiah says:

    We’ll see more of this with financial fair play rules coming into effect over the next several years. Players coming from MLS will be on lower wages and require a lower transfer fee.

  16. Old School says:

    Nice observation/point.

  17. chris says:

    That is a stupid statement

  18. Alan Jimenez says:

    Why is it a stupid statement? Thats how stuff works.

  19. Dan says:

    I can’t tell if you are kidding about firing Dom, if you aren’t, then you should be.

  20. Twon says:

    Fair play rules won’t do nothing, clubs in Europe will still be in financial trouble, it is a wast of time.

  21. Dan says:

    that wasn’t Canetti, that was Olimpia president, who 2 times accepted an offer, then at the last minute said “nevermind.” Also, it didn’t take three years, the first interest came just a year ago. And I don’t blame Canetti for anything, he is very restricted by money.

  22. mikey says:

    When is it not the best option?

    Go to Europe where all options are on the table or go to MLS where your essentially locked down and it no longer becomes cost effective for European teams to take a flier on an MLS players becasue of how expensive it is. If your coveted by an your MLS club, they arent going to sell you. That’s why Shea is going to more than likely have to wait before he can go to Europe. At that point, he’ll be 24 and would’ve been playing at a plateued level for 2 years.

    MLS is the option if you have no foreign suitors or you decided to play in college. Sure you can do a Dempsey and play your way into Europe, but that is more like the exception to the rule. If you are heavily recruited out of high school do yourself and US Soccer a favor and get in some lower divison European team and work your way up. There is a reason there are less than 10 viable USMNT players in MLS. Our best players are seasoned in Europe without a doubt.

    Cameron is starting way behind the bell curve, but as we’ve seen he can still probably contribute for another 5 years or so.

  23. b says:

    What the hell are you even talking about? I can’t tell if it’s stupidity or sarcasm…

  24. supergrandefilms says:

    There’s never a better time… like now. Make the most of your opportunities, surround yourself with good people – this type of advice that allows a person to grow, excel in life.

    He has the physicality, hunger and growing skills. It would be great to see him in Europe in a accelerated competitive environment.

    Happy to hear the good news for Cameron.

  25. Twon says:

    You sound like an idiot, many American players that go to Scandinavia hardly ever play in the EPL. MLS is not going to sell a player if they get nothing back, its a Business as well, they have to think about the club. Even Jurgen thinks young players, should stay in MLS first, then make the jump. You are the reason we have the Marcus Tracy’s of the world, History has shown MLS lets players go,for the right price.

  26. Alan Jimenez says:

    Whats wrong with giving my own opinion? Isn’t that what the comment section is for? Not sure if you’re conservative or a big ranting bitch face.

  27. Marlon says:

    Are you Italian?

  28. bryan says:

    i will have to respectfully disagree that he is too young and that he shouldn’t think about moving to a big league until 30. and why would he, at 30, just be getting into the national team picture? how does that help us much? i don’t believe you are serious though.

  29. bryan says:

    honestly, Ream didn’t really have a bad year in the EPL. but, there are plenty of others who did follow that path exactly.

  30. bryan says:

    i like the EPL, but i would like to see some players get into La Liga. we need to improve our touch and dribbling. we’re desperate for a CB who can pass out of the back, who is good on the ball, who is quick. La Liga would be a perfect place to improve those skills. but like you said, PT would be hard to come by in either, depending on the team. as long as he is smart about it, he can find a team i’m sure.

  31. Alan Jimenez says:

    Bocanegra, demerit, cherundolo were all 30 when they made the world cup goodson was 29. Age must not bother klinnsman because I dont see him developing any players.

  32. louis z says:

    I think it was expected, his combo of size and touch gives him a leg up against other MLSers, plus the dude is tough as nails.

  33. dk says:

    Alan, my friend, soccer PRIME is 26-28. You don’t get any faster, more agile, or physically able to handle the rigors of professional footballing after that age. After age 30, MOST players (I won’t say all) experience a fall off in their play. Certainly keepers are an exception to that, and some field players also have a resurgence after 30. But 26-27 is a perfect time to try your hand for a big club in Europe — just ask Gerrard, Ronaldinho, Kaka, Robbie Keane, Thiery Henry, and the list goes on forever.

  34. Roger says:

    Off to go see Cameron, I hope he plays better than last game.

  35. Alan Jimenez says:

    If soccer prime is 26-30, why isnt Cameroon starting? All I see are 30+ year olds in our defense except for Johnson. What’s your argument if there are very little young players in the national team?

  36. Mug says:

    Bocanegra, Goodson, Howard, Guzan, Bradley, Dempsey, Holden, Altidore, Gomez, all started in MLS.

  37. cj says:

    Can we please keep politics out of here. For every instance you show a conservative silencing somebody I can show you three from liberals.

  38. The Imperative Voice says:

    Canetti didn’t say he was scouting defenders when he talked about the summer window and Boniek and an Unnamed Forward. It is therefore reasonable to be concerned that we might be counting transfer $$$$$ without considering the competitive impact/ availability of replacements.

    Perhaps the suggestion is we can make do without. Did you watch the Whitecaps game? That’s what our B team defense looks like. There is a thin patina of quality in our defense over a lot of mediocrity. Dallas was all over Ashe. Signing Boniek and selling Cameron would be a competitive wash, or worse.

    I refuse to take crap for thinking a player (Appiah) who scores within minutes in his first MLS game, might have promise. Dom traded DeRo for nothing, was unable to exploit Wondo, traded away Oduro and Kamara for spite, etc. I think he’s reasonably effective at implementing his direct 442 but the big picture is we play a lot of ugly, defensive soccer and haven’t won a big trophy since 2007. We’ve always been defensive but recent years we’re a caricature.

  39. seattlefutball says:

    I hope he gets over there but the scouts sure picked the wrong game to watch

  40. Kevin G. says:

    Guys is too small to play in the EPL or Bliga. He should go to Spain.

  41. The Imperative Voice says:

    Then. Don’t. Sell. Look before you leap. We have a contract, he has a career. We need a veteran back before we sell. QED. The whole reason Cameron got moved back is the defense sucked without him. I have no urge to return to 2010 defense and watching the playoffs from the wilderness.

    As far as Boniek goes, we chose to obsess on the guy for three windows and butt heads with Olimpia’s FO. We ultimately paid a million for him (“restricted by money”?). I hope he’s worth it.

  42. The Imperative Voice says:

    The basic appeal of a MLS American is they are cheap and to the extent they can get a work permit usually at least of the quality a mediocre EPL team could use.

    But if English/European wages drop as you suggest then Americans are less competitive because I can snag some guy over there that I can thoroughly scout, at similar or slightly increased cost. I think the wage gap is actually something we exploit.

  43. The Imperative Voice says:

    I think he has some of the requisite tenacity, skill, and composure, but from year 1 he’s had a habit of diving in and I think he needs to work on the mental game. He still gets caught ball watching and stuff.

    Moyes strikes me as the sort of coach who would teach him things. Schalke sounds like the deep end of the pool and I’m not sure that’s the place for learning on the job.

    Pulis, well, they already play Dynamo style ball so that’s probably like plug and play. Perhaps he’d learn from the tougher EPL experience, maybe he’d get exposed like Berbatov did to him at the all star game.

  44. CJ says:

    By the time an American player goes to La Liga, it’ll be too late to develop better ball skills. You gotta have them first before going. We have a long way to go before we produce players of that caliber on a consistent basis.

  45. Ben says:

    +1. Cameron should move somewhere where he gets instant PT. Holland- AZ Alkmaar?

  46. luke says:

    he means ream had a poor mls season before moving to the epl

  47. Ben says:

    I take back my +1 on the basis that cj’s sense of equivalence is lazy and wholly lacking objective reason. -2.

  48. The Imperative Voice says:

    You watching this defense struggle….against TFC? You really think we can afford to lose Cameron?

  49. BrianK says:

    What? Tim Ream was excellent for NYRB’S!

  50. GW says:

    Twon,

    You have Klinsmann’s quotes wrong.Jürgen never said “young players should stay in MLS first, then make the jump.” Jürgen only said young Americans need to go somewhere where they can learn to be professionals. That could be MLS, it could be Europe or it could be Mexico or South America. Everyone is different; it has to be evaluated on a case by case basis.

    from the Slane article:

    “I really don’t like the whole thing to shoot up players at the age of 18, 19 or 20,” said Klinsmann, who starred as a player for Germany. “That’s far too early without having proven consistent qualities yet. Qualities are more than you see on the field. There are qualities of understanding your job and living the right lifestyle – understanding what it means to eat right and to sleep well and be responsible off the field.

    “To learn all these elements is going to take years. I think I played my first cap at 24, and I still made over 100 (caps) through my career.”

    “There should be a far more down-to-earth approach,” Klinsmann said. “Because of one good season they’ve shot up Agudelo, Bunbury and Brek Shea to the new faces of MLS, and I said, ‘What’s that? They’re just learning right now.’ They’re all raw.”

    Rather than advising Americans to sign with bigger clubs where they will struggle to find first-team minutes – like former Manchester United signings Jonathan Spector and Kenny Cooper had in the past – Klinsmann wants his players to go somewhere where they’ll gain experience both on and off the pitch.”

    Jürgen only said young Americans need to go somewhere where they can learn to be professionals. That could be MLS, it could be Europe or it could be Mexico or South America. Everyone is different; it has to be evaluated on a case by case basis.

    MLS does not really focus on developing Americans per se (unlike the Mexican clubs). They seem to view Americans as filler, cheap and easily marketable but when they want the real thing they always seem to go foreign. Most of the young Americans with talent will head abroad, if they can manage it , because they want to be paid and coached a little better and have a little more freedom of moment if they start to develop.

  51. GW says:

    How are you going to “make him sign a new contract”?

    Now MLS did “make” Donovan sign that extension before the 2010 World Cup but that was because Landon wanted to go on loan to Everton and MLS would not let him do that without him signing the extension.

    LD used that Everton loan to get a shot in the arm for the 2010 World Cup and it worked since he had an excellent performance both in the EPL and the World Cup. Of course the extension was very lucrative but it also tied Landon to the Galaxy longer than I’m sure he wanted to be tied.

    Cameron is not exactly in the same situation.

  52. seattlefutball says:

    lol…well show me 300 prominent liberals and 300 prominent conservatives and Ill show YOU a dozen globalists who control them.

    Anyway he can play in Europe for sure but he’s not going to be playing in a top league at CB, they’ll move him to DM. Hes showing this year (and right now if your watching the game) that he’s not a elite CB

  53. GW says:

    I Voice,

    Cameron’s criteria for a club should follow the formula that worked for successful American players ( see Friedel, Howard, Keller, Hahnemann at Reading, McBride, Dolo, Boca, Jozy, Dempsey, Donovan’s loans, Holden, Ream, Bradley, Gooch in his Portugal and in Belgium stints, Sacha,, etc., etc.) in Europe and the UK:

    – A stable club management
    – A management and staff that are all believe in him and really want him.
    – An available role in the team suited to his kills.
    – A coaching staff capable of integrating him and bringing the best out of him
    – Players that are willing to accept him

    At 26 Cameron is older than most of these guys when they were starting. He already has all the balls skills he is likely to ever get. What will happen if he is successful and becomes a regular is he will sharpen and refine those skills, learn how to use them at a different tempo, and develop a much clearer idea of where and when to use them. For example, MB 90 isn’t doing anything in Italy he did not do before he got there. He is just much more disciplined, consistent and intelligent in terms of how he goes about his business.

  54. There you are says:

    Just giving you crap for Appiah. The Cameron $$ is not needed to bring in another striker or AM. Any player brought in now costs half salary to the cap. Next year fitting them all under the cap is another story. As far as Cameron is concerned, yes, losing him will suck. However, I do not see Dom standing in his way of a transfer. We should score some good cash, but finding a replacement this season will be tough. Hopefully, we can talk Ibaghea into signing on as a HG, but he will be help in a couple seasons.

  55. Twon says:

    On MLS soccer.com Jurgen had a interview with Greg, he said, that MLS is the path young players should, take. He said many can not make the jump right away and MLS provides the path. I remember what the hell he said. He said gave Landon Donovan as a example on how he struggled at a young age. MLS does play young players, soony Saad is 19yr and started his first game tonight. As academies grow, the talent will go to MLS first.

  56. Dynamo Grandpa says:

    Juvechelsea, come back to Bsoccer!

  57. The Imperative Voice says:

    Cameron’s cap value and market value are two different issues. A transfer fee would go to the mortgage and the bottom line even if it didn’t go to the cap but instead Cameron’s salary came off. All fairness the money brought into the bank might go to some acquisition’s paycheck, and maybe even some of Cameron’s cap room might shift across in the abstract, even if it is somewhat apples and oranges.

    “Standing in the way of the transfer?” This is not a charity where player interests trump team needs. He hasn’t delivered a championship to deserve a favor. We own the player, we have the right to options, and we have our own competitive concerns to consider. He’s the best defender on a mediocre defense. I wouldn’t transfer him unless I had a replacement ready. If I have to pay options well get out the checkbook.

    No, I think the reality is we don’t want to pay the options and instead want to reap the profit, even if we lack a Plan B waiting. If we won’t pay the options this would be our window to sell, he could leave in winter on a free, or perhaps exercise the options from his own end. So since this is about quick $$$ we will leap first and look later.

    If there’s any doubt it’s about $$$, tacitly placing him in the shop window, not denying it, and naming the interested parties publicly is surely intended to push up the going rate. “You’re bidding against Schalke with that?” I think we’d be more circumspect if there was a stronger possibility he’d stay.

    I’m just a tad concerned this is all “Hunter Pence think.” You watch that game tonight and you see a handful of good players (Davis, Bruin, Cameron), and he’s one. So that’s the one you sell? It only makes sense in a cutesy general manager sense where bluntly I think we’re missing the big picture of not letting more foundational pieces leave if we have trophy/CCL aspirations.

  58. Dynamo Grandpa says:

    Come back to bigsoccer, JuveChelsea!

  59. Dynamo Grandpa says:

    Miss you JuveChelsea! Come back!

  60. Dennis says:

    They’re just window shoppin,

  61. biff says:

    Story in the German press says Schalke is looking at Cameron because of interest from big clubs (Man City, etc.) in = in big interest in Schalke’s 20-year-old Greek international Kyriakos Papadopoulos, in case he is poached this summer. Here is a link:

    link to tinyurl.com

    I am big Cameron fan, would love to see him (and Clint Dempsey) at Schalke.

    And speaking of Germany, also am wondering whether Michael Bradley might return to the Bundesliga this summer. Apparently, according to some Italian press stories a couple of weeks ago, some interest coming from Germany. But recent stories in Italy are strongly linking MB to Palermo, like this story, which says Chievo paid a 1.2-million-euro transfer fee last summer for MB.

    link to tinyurl.com

  62. jon says:

    Hell. Yes.

  63. hogatroge says:

    His play at CB hasn’t been as stellar as it was at the end of last season, but Cameron’s hardly having a “bad” year.

    There were a couple rough games near the beginning of the season (including Seattle where Geoff conceded a PK and had a unlucky OG), but he’s been pretty solid since.

    Lately, Corey Ashe’s poor form and Andre Hainault’s rust have contributed to Houston’s defensive woes.

  64. hogatroge says:

    Cameron’s not on his rookie contract anymore. He has a very high salary for an MLS player (>$200k). Plus he has 2 yrs remaining on said contract.

    Buyout will probably be close to Tim Ream’s.

  65. hogatroge says:

    Just a couple of friendly counterpoints:

    1. DeRo wanted to be traded because he thought his home team would pay him the big bucks.

    2. Denying players transfers–especially big opportunities like this–will NOT make them happy.

    3. The transfer window is about to open up and there are plenty of European clubs in offseason. We stocked up pretty well last year in that window (Moffat, Camargo, Costly) so I wouldn’t worry too much until it’s August and there are no new defensive signings.

  66. hogatroge says:

    Anywhere he’ll get top tier PT!

  67. GW says:

    Twon,

    If you are referring to the interview JK did with Greg Lalas, which is still available on the MLS site, that interview reinforces my point, which is that every player is different and it is pretty much a case by case basis.

    JK says for MOST American teenagers MLS makes more sense for a number of reasons, but he NEVER says it should be the path for EVERY American. His point is, it is much better to play than not, even if it is at a lower level. Josh Gatt, who was playing in high school in Detroit only three years ago, for example, obviously made the right move for him.

    This is what you wrote in your first post
    “Even Jurgen thinks young players, should stay in MLS first, then make the jump.”

    Later on you wrote:

    “On MLS soccer.com Jurgen had a interview with Greg, he said, that MLS is the path young players should, take. He said many can not make the jump right away and MLS provides the path. I remember what the hell he said.”

    You heard what you wanted to hear. Go back and listen to it again. There is a huge difference between what he said and what you THINK he said.

    link to theoriginalwinger.com

    By the way Marcus Tracy’s problem was having a pair of bum knees not playing in Denmark. He never really got going because of his injuries. It wasn’t mikey’s fault.