The U.S. men's national team will take on Mexico on Aug. 10th at Lincoln Financial Field in Philadelphia, U.S. Soccer revealed on Friday.
The match-up is a rematch of the 2011 Gold Cup Final, won by Mexico, 4-2, in June.
The "friendly" is the third friendly scheduled by U.S. Soccer since the Gold Cup, with the Americans taking on Costa Rica and Belgium.
The friendly could give us the return to national team action of midfielder Stuart Holden and defender/midfielder Timmy Chandler, who both missed the Gold Cup.Holden's inclusion is probably less likely given the fact he's still recovering from the serious knee injury that has kept him out of U.S. national team action all year.
Mexico has won the past three meetings between the countries, including the past two Gold Cup Finals. The sides haven't met in a friendly since 2008, when the teams tied, 2-2, in Houston.
What do you think of the USA playing Mexico? Excited? Not a fan of the idea? Plan to be there?
Share your thoughts below.
wow.
it was not enough.
depends who’s playing for USMNT.
Will Bornstein play? What about Sacha, Gooch, Spector, etc? I like these guys, but BB’s infatuation with them needs to end.
I would love to see S.Holden and T.Chandler get a run.
I look forward to only 2/3rds of the stadium being filled with Mexicans. I am hoping the rest are leftovers from the 700 level at the Vet.
Like Iran v. Iraq, I care not who wins between those Philly fans and the Mexicans as long as they both lose.
Honestly, I feel like it’s too soon. I understand it’s a great opponent and a game that brings in money, but I am not in the mood right now to lose to Mexico again.
Wow. That seems crazy.
+1 … I’m only ok with losing to Mexico if we get to see Gyau and some fresh faces. After GC and CA, I doubt Mexico will field their A-team … not that that helps much.
I guess good thing its against Mexico or else they’d struggle to fill the Linc on a weeknight in between two Union home games…
That’s the most positive thing I can draw from this.
Presumably our MLS/Mexico USMNT v. Mexico’s domestic guys.
/shrug
Could be fun.
Always excited to see US v. Mexico. Since MLS is in full swing and major Euro leagues are close to season kickoff, who will BB call in?
I’d heard about this game a while back, but had dismissed it as an unsubstantiated rumor.
I guess any opportunity to test out some new players is a plus, but I’m not looking forward to getting smacked around again.
Its almost like US Soccer is scrambling for as many friendlies as possible prior to qualifiers. I think it’s a good chance to explore options..
Well another a** kicking with BB
yeah im just not excited about it…I hate this recent lack of faith I have in our nats. I have been frustrated before, but right now i just dont have any faith in our system or players. Sure its a great opportunity for our b and c team to get a look but, why against El Tri?
Hey, USMNT. Masochistic much?
Oh I see what’s going on. US Soccer loves that mexican NT fans plata. Maybe with the money raised Sunil Gulati can attract a better coach. Ojala!
Thank you. What’s the point? Okay.. maybe we get a bit more home field advantage, but what can we learn from playing them again? We suffer against speedy, creative forwards. No $h#t. That’s been the case throughout Bob Bradley’s tenure.
More than likely both teams will just be fielding ‘B’ teams as this is right in the middle of European season preparations.
Do we really have a ‘B’ team worth watching?
Since this will happen, I guess we could play:
———Bunbury/Gomez—-
———-Agudelo——-
Beasley—————-Donovan
—-Torres/McCarty-Feilhaber
Shea—Gonzalez-Ream—Chandler (FCN owes us)
———–Rimando———
I know it’s a weird team, but I just don’t see us getting our Euro players for this. I checked the Fifa website and it says it’s a Friendly date, but few of our Euro players (basically none) can afford to waste time in their efforts to lock down starting positions in their respective leagues.
Please don’t flame me. Just an idea.
Also, 9pm ET on a Wednesday? Does USSF have so little leverage with ESPN that they have to play that late?
Qualifiers for the US don’t start until probably fall of next year. Certainly over a year from now. The team’s got nothing to do but play friendlies in that time. Top teams usually play at least 10 or so games a year– you’d hope the US would play something like that number between now and the start of qualifying.
Cash Rules Everything Around Me, Get the C.R.E.A.M Dolla Dolla bill yall.
It’s as if Sunil if playing FIFA in his basement with his older brother ” Best out of three Dude!!”
I would not pay 5$ to watch the US B team play the Mexico B team.
Sunil is just pimping the National Team. There is no point in playing Mexico.We already know they are better.
Unless the US calls a lot of the U20 players that have a future.
I agree with you that it’s a waste of time for our Euro-based players, and I’m hoping BB doesn’t call them in.
That said, the USMNT needs depth, and it’s always a chance for an MLS/Mexican league player to impress (and possibly draw the eye of a European scout). I think it’s great if Agudelo, Ream, Shea, et al. can get some experience against better competition than they’re used to in league play.
So to answer your rhetorical question: no, we don’t have a B-team worth watching, but Bradley needs to start developing one, ’cause that A-team won’t be around forever.
This is nuts. Gulati and Bradley have lost me. I will never turn my back on the boys. But I intend to take a sabbatical for a while. I will not put this game or the September games on my sche
On that friendly date, with no qualification at stake, it’s a good chance (for both the US and Mexico) to get an MLS-based B-team in camp and see who deserves a look.
I’ve got no problem with this match, and I wouldn’t read too much into the result either way. Beating Mexico’s B-team won’t mean too much, and neither will losing to them, esp. if our Euro-based players aren’t called in. If the match serves the purposes of player evaluation the teams put on a good show, that’s all you can ask.
I agree with you. I am boycotting these “friendlies”. What is the point? US soccer is just trying to fill their pockets.
Our team can’t even beat Mexico’s B-team, the last time we played them we were “humiliated” 5-0, on our own home soil. At this point I could give a crap who they play. BB is an idiot and I don’t know why in the hell he is still coach, any other coach in the wo9rld would be canned after blowing leads the way he does. Why in this country we except mediocrity I don’t know. In addition we’ll be visitors in our own stadium AGAIN!! USSF is just a money grab and Gualti is a greedy son of a bitch.
Money before what is best for US Soccer is why the US ship is sinking.
Sunil Gulati must be hanging out with Decio de Maria and Justino Compean.. cant beat them join em in making lots of $$$$$
This is by no means a rematch. We are just playing a Mexican team. If anything it just brings back painful memories. If we have a different coach, selecting MLS players, with a different combination, maybe that would be interesting
Why are people upset by this. I <3 playing Mexico. They are our only true rival.
Spector didn’t even get any minutes in the Gold Cup, he didn’t do very well vs Spain but not sure why the anti Spector feeling?
I think if Chandler doesn’t play RB he is our 2nd RB as far as international quality outside backs are concerned. Until someone in MLS like Alston, Franklin, Williams etc or someone from the youth ranks rises?
Even with Chandler as the starting RB since Dolo might not make it past this year or next at best as the starter, until we find a LB, I say Lichaj is the best we’ve seen in a LONG time, like since 2002 or 2005 maybe? Beasley was okay vs Trinidad when he had time to prep for it but that says how bad guys like Heath Pearce, Bornstein and Eddie Lewis were.
So I think Spector has a spot with both his ability to be a 2nd choice center mid or even right wing mid but more importantly as as the back up right back, until guys in MLS or U-20 come up?
LOL friendlies are a waste of time.
Oh, man, is this for real?
They’re going to kick our a@#!!!! What’s the point! Are we being punished? Did we do something bad to deserve this? I’m sorry!!!
9pm ET is the perfect time for a weekday game because it’s 6pm Pacific time. 5pm would be too early because people are just getting off work, 10pm would be too late a start, so this is the best time for both coasts.
That was Mexico’s B team? It was A, A- at worst.
And it was OUR C team.
Were you even a USMNT fan then, or are you just making s*** up?
Have all the sane people stopped commenting here?
I agree with your sentiment, but for me, if the US can field an Olympic style team (mostly under 23′s with a few veterans) with some heart and talent, it’s a good chance to give the young’uns some experience.
But if we lack capable center backs even with our Euro-players, how badly do we want to get torched without them?
And if I see Bornstein again I will reconsider joining that stupid facebook group that seeks to fire Bradley.
If the team did have Shea, Torres, Agudelo, and Bunbury, and they can turn in good performances, I think it would be worth that five spot.
But we’re only playing these friendlies because Gulati only cares about money!!!1!
You should post this a few more times, that would really do a lot to raise the level of discourse around here….
I didnt know you were the soccer God. not everything that you say is right. Get off your high horse.
Wow – beautiful copa america match just ended 1-1 Uruguay v Chile. Chile played beautiful
Michael Bradley has the gait of a fat person.
This from the guy who wrote “Sunil is just pimping the National Team. There is no point in playing Mexico.We already know they are better.”
Really, friendlies played for the purpose of determining which team is better?
What does “pimping the national team” even mean?
That’s bunch of crap that it was their B team. Chicharito hadn’t even come on the radar yet, he came on strong in January of 2010, he scored something like 6 or 8 goals in like 7 games? I think he got 6 in 3 to start with.
Only guys that were missing from the 2009 Gold Cup final were Marquez who was injured anyway, Salcido who was resting from Qualifying and busy season with PSV, as well as Maza Rodriguez one of the Clenbuterol offenders, Guardado who was also resting up and getting ready for the La Liga season and the game at Azteca as was Hector Moreno who was already in Holland but was not a starter, and that’s pretty much it? 5 guys from Euro teams but only 4 potential starters and that’s pushing it because Magallon was thei 2nd CB at the time but that 09 final team had the likes of this…
Memo Ochoa, Efrain Juarez, Gerardo Torrado, Israel Castro…. sound familiar? Up that’s 4 of Mexico’s starters right now 3 if you don’t count the suspended Keeper, but also Gio Dos Santos Franco was a starter at the time playing for Villareal, Vela came in at half time and they also had Barrera on the bench. That’s 5 or 6 of the 11 2011 starters.
Castro, Pinto Sabah and Medina were all veterans with lots of experience they were back ups of the A team, B+ team at worst!
Mexico has more depth now with Barrera and Hernandez as well as Reyna and others but still that team was much more closer to the 1st team than ours. Who stayed from the US? Goodsen and Holden?
That was their B team. DOs Santos, Barrera and Juarez were 21 years old.
Just because you say something it doenst make it true.
If you dont believe me go and search for the 2009 roster.
+1 On the mark!
Jay Heaps!
Watching this game makes me feel depressed for our team. I know we don’t have the players Chile and Uruguay do but they do the things I wish we did: play with style, purpose, together and with energy.
should have used the landon “chicken dance” donovan photo for this one… d’oh!
Usually means they have a sports hernia..:(
Did we not get enough by blowing a 2 goal lead last time? Should we shoot for a 3 goal lead? Or are we going to go back to the pre 2000 days of getting beat by them 5-0 or 6-0? Maybe they can break the record this time?
If they play with a 1st team it would be cool but I doubt it, like some said Euro clubs are barely getting ready and since we have what 3 or 4 starters in Germany they will be within DAYS of starting their official season, hey maybe we get a line up without Bradley for change? But is not that great since Chandler and Jones likely won’t be there?
I would of prefered to play a South American team in SA or a Euro team in Europe, that might of helped getting our 1st team on the field if they didn’t have to fly across the Atlantic?
sorry if im a puppet for gulati’s games but i get pumped everytime we face Mexico.. i just hope that gulati/bob are doing this to WIN!
Lol yes I said he is pimping the national team.
He will pay Mexico around 1.4 million to come and play their B team.
If Bradley calls the U23 team for all the friendlies then it will show that they are trying to find the olimpic team and some future players for the National Team.
Oh god don’t remind me of that!
how in the hell did Geoff Cameron not get on that team? lol
And I felt Bob should have tried to get guys like Jozy, Adu and others to play the tournament is not like it helped Adu to go back to Benfica? lol
maybe full pockets could afford to pay a real manager…
this same day El Salvador is playing Ivory Coast in LA! a game vs. Drogba would be much more interesting!!!
Interesting timing. Gotta wonder if the players/coaches are itching for a chance at redemption. Its an international date I believe so maybe some of the Euro-based starters make the trip. I can’t believe we would schedule this without fielding a close to full strength squad. Not even USSF is stupid enough to ask for two beatdowns from our rival in one summer.
Remember the game vs Spain? We had our A team sit on the bench to watch our subs get smoked by Spain.
Hopefully, it won’t be his call to make. One can dream, I guess.
US Soccer makes big $.
Mexico Soccer wins trophies.
This is getting really old, really fast
THANK YOU
Indeed, second half especially was thoroughly entertaining. Chile is definitely fun to watch and looked the better side perhaps.
abc said…
Have all the sane people stopped commenting here?
Yes. Yes they have.
So you are not a sane one? Lol
Gotta make sure that it is prime time for the West Coast and Mexico, as that’s where most of the fans who will actually watch the game are located. And I don’t mean the LA and Americans Abroad chapters of American Outlaws.
yes, agree exactly. If only the usa would (could?) change style to play this way, I would not care if they won or lost.
I really hate the comments posted here. Pompous Mexican meatballs and pessimistic fair-whether USA “fans”. How about being excited for one if the greatest rivalries in the world? How about some enthusiasm for a shot at redemption. And so what IF both teams play weaker sides? Both sides have a wealth of young and domestic talent that would make a JV game great! I really don’t see what is not to like about this game.
I’m sure Heaps is available for this date. Maybe he can bring Heaps, Jonny B, Ricardo Clark, Parkhurst, Eddie Johnson, Eddie Gaven, Robbie Rogers, DMB, we can have the “All Whipping Boy” USMNT team.
I REALLY hope your not insinuating Mexico would be on Spains level.
I did, and it wasn’t a “B” team. Quit making stuff up on the internet Ricky. It makes you look childish.
Rivalries are made to be played in games that mean something. This is just a money grab. That is why most of the people here are making these comments.
If the US A team is going to play Mexico A team, then I am all for it.
If Bradley calls U23 players then I am all for it.
If Bradley calls players like Wondo, Rogers who dont have a future with the national team, then they can sell the tickets to mexican fans.
Bad idea… we’ll be playing Mexico a half dozen other times over the next two years in games that are meaningful.
I am really disappointed that 2 of the maybe 4 friendlies we’ll play during the rest of 2011 will be against CONCACAF opponents.
Belgium was a good choice, Costa Rice a bad one, and Mexico worst of all.
“it’s always a chance for an MLS/Mexican league player to impress ”
Maybe Bob asked for this match to give Bornstein a chance to redeem himself?
Will Chepo be coaching this game? If so that’s all you need to know. Chepo >>>>>>>>>> BB
I’m not going to another game or buying another piece of USNMT paraphernalia until Sunil terminates Bradley. I have limited resources and time and until the US Federation demonstrates that they are serious about putting a winning product on the pitch, I will not be attending or supporting them. I realize Sunil et al. realize by scheduling a fixture of this nature they are guaranteeing a sellout. I will not be party to your charade. I suspect the 3,000 or so Sons of Ben(suckers) will be party to your charade, I haven’t forgotten how rudderless our program our program has become under your guidance Mr. Gulatti in the two weeks since our humiliating defeat after holding a 2-0 lead! I hope it is 15,000 Americans and 65,000 Mexicans. Not for our players who deserve better but because people need to be outraged and awoken to the outrage you have now become party to! The only way the USSF will get the message is if we boycott ruses like this and send the message that we have grown as a soccer nation and are not the rubes you think we are. (I am not holding my breath on this one)
If anyone “pimps their Nat team” (which is an idiotic thing to say. I just want to humor you), than what does Mexico do when they play In the USA?? The exact same thing.
It’s pro sports!!
The only thing that would be ok, is if we bring in some totally new young players to see if anyone shines.
Good Lord what whiny bunch of bitçhes the US has for “fans!” Mexico has suffered through at least two cycles of being second place in CONCACAF but they’re fans never lost faith, never stopped buying the gear and showing up to the matches and now can be proud of the progress they have made.
Oh and heck yeah, SUNIL IS IN IT FOR THE MONEY! How else do you think we pay for Bradington, the U17 and U20 teams and all other player development initiatives? Mexico out earns us by a huge factor, just here in our own country, and it is really amazing that the USSF has ever had the upper hand at all. Huge room for improvement, you bet cha, but at least they are in the struggle.
Note to the whiners, sack up and grow some, boys. We will win some and lose some.
“their fans” my emotions ran ahead of my spelling.
“USMNT to face Mexico in Philadelphia on Aug. 10th”
Why?
We’ll surely lose alot though, I see Mexico winning 6-2 if they really care to beat us, this friendly would probably bore them playing another match at home against the crap us team.
The U-20s with futures are all either battling for spots in Europe or else mid-season in MLS. Which means there is NO REASON AT ALL to play this game (besides $$$).
This was the most intelligent thing I have read in the comment section in quite some time. Well done; it echoes my sentiments precisely.
Why do I feel this is US Soccer’s idiotic attempt at salvaging some self-respect with a quick rematch on US soul in a market that has a healthy support of US soccer? This match makes me angry. They should be firing some people, not scheduling money-makers and matches that attempt to pull the wool over the eyes of fans who are fed up with the recent trend of the USMNT…
First, do people think Gulati is using friendly money to fill his Swiss Bank Account? Gulati works for free. And we always need more money, look at how much money the big time European coaches that everyone here wants make and compare it to Bradley’s salary. A friendly against Mexico will sell lots of tickets and make lots of money for both parties.
Second, the BEST change under Bradley is the high quality of friendly opponents. Because this date falls during a bad time for European players (BL starts 8/5 EPL starts 8/13), it makes sense to face an opponent from CONCACAF and Mexico are obviously by far the best possible opponents out of that group.
Third, for the reason stated above, this is a great chance to call in players from MLS and Mexico. Hopefully in addition to Agudelo and Ream we will see Shea, John, Gonzalez, Gaven, Hamid, Sean Johnson, plus guys from Mexico like Torres and Orozco.
Also Norway is on a break so hopefully we see Mix Diskerud and Josh Gatt (who Bradley wanted at the Gold Cup according to Molde).
Who knows, maybe even some surprises like Kitchen, Okugo, Sapong. Of course it’s possible that Bradley wastes some roster spots on guys like Rogers, Pearce, Beckerman, maybe even Bornstein, but hopefully not.
In short, we face the toughest opponent possible and make the most money possible, and have the opportunity to start looking at our player pool for the Olympics and next World Cup.
That’s the thing, he doesn’t get paid, so he doesn’t have to care to much about how the team does, besides he’s pocketing money for the higher ups in our federation.
This is good news to me. I thought I was going to have to wait until World Cup qualifying to see the US try and get some revenge. I just hope both teams bring strong teams.
“The friendly could give us the return to national team action of midfielder Stuart Holden and defender/midfielder Timmy Chandler”
Neither player will be there because Bundesliga starts 8/5 and Premier League 8/13. Plus Holden will not be back until mid-September or even October according to the article on his rehab in the Washington Post.
Instead we will have exactly what we need post-Gold Cup, an experimental squad, hopefully with lots of younger MLS/Mex/Norway players.
How does scheduling a friendly against Mexico mean he doesn’t care about how the team does?
And can you substantiate this charge of “pocketing money for the higher ups in our federation”?
Great! Another oppurtunity to see how pathetic our boys are with BB running things.
If a team general manager or USSF president doesnt care for the product they are giving the fans,then the fans can choose to not buy or buy that product.
I am not breaking up with the US national team. I am just taking a break.
Agreed on Shea, Torres, and Agudelo but Bunbury has been benched behind Sapong (who is not quite Henry, plus is himself US-eligible).
If Bradley calls the young guns then its Ok. If he bring players liked WOndo or Rogers, Bornstein, Pearce, then it will be a wasted friendly.
I think that bradley will call up a gump squad. I cannot stand how non chalont bradley is and how the team is going down goals to start fighting. When we play big eurp teams we play scared in the confed cup against spain we fought to the end. Just cause you are brazil, spain, holland, germaney, argentina, etc. Does not mean you are going to win just because you are a world power playing a minow team.
Can I get an “Amen?!”
Well Boomshakalaka!
If he cared he’d hire a quality coach so we wouldn’t be consistently beat because of Bob’s stupid mistakes, game after game….. The guys who elected him in (“higher ups”) since elections to the USSF president’s position isn’t an “open” election, like you have in real footballing nations who have the BALLS to criticize the team unlike the punk American writers who think there is nothing at stake. He should know fans like me are heavily dissappointed with the way the teams played after Bradley’s resigning. Again, the “higher ups” in the organization only care about geting cash from meaningless friedlies where the team gets slaughtered from jolly fans with rose tinted glasses.
I just realized Hahnemann will probably be stateside by then… how about this friendly as a farewell call-up for him? Maybe even some other MLSers like Ching or Conrad?
The US team needs to move on from having MH as one of our top three goalkeepers.
Ooh its you again. when did I say Mexico is at the same level than Spain?
Learn to read. I know you are hating because I said Mexico was developing better talent.
I was stating that we could have played Spain with our A team, but instead Bob chose to sit them and play with our bench.
I forgot Beasley, who is not really national team material anymore, and is now in Mexico…
Mexico Footcall federation pimps the mexican National team like there is no tomorrow. I am not a mexican fan you idiot.
Just because I said Mexico is developing better talent it doenst make me a Mexico fan boy.
It would be great if he could get his farewell game. But not with Ching and that kind of players.
Hahnemann deserves better than to go out playing with guys that dont deserve to wear the National team shirt. Ching was great for us, but his time is up.
If its a farewell game then call the A team. He deserves to play with the best the US has.
Awesome. I always look forward to playing El Tri. Maybe we can give them a better match this time.
Maybe I am missing something on the argument over money. Sure, the USSF is going to make some cash, but I don’t think that Mexico just going to come here and play for free. What is their take? Do they split the gate? If so, who are we really helping. Just wondering as I don’t know the dollar breakdown. I assume that it varies considerably. Considering that the majority of attendees at these matches are Mexican, I would assume that Mexico has all kinds of leverage in negotiating a good deal for them too. If anyone has the scoop, please enlighten.
Bob and Micheal suck.
I suspect that a lot of A-listers will in fact sit this one out on both sides, which makes predicting an outcome anyone’s guess. I’m intrigued by the idea of this being an Olympic/prospect squad, as there are questions about starters and depth at nearly every position. I am equally intrigued by the notion that a soccer federation shouldn’t schedule friendlies on an international fixture date. It’s amazing the lengths some folks will go to to get their gripe on… I’m Sure Jurgen Klinsmann would have NEVER allowed this affront to logic to take place.
Mexico has a contract with SUM. Guess who is part of the team that runs SUM.
Founded in 2002, Soccer United Marketing (SUM) is the preeminent soccer business company in North America. SUM holds the exclusive rights to the most important soccer properties in the region, including: all commercial rights to Major League Soccer; the United States Soccer Federation; promotional and marketing rights to Mexican National Team games played in the United States; and the marketing and promotion of the CONCACAF Gold Cupâ„¢. Since 2008 SUM oversees a long-term partnership with La Liga’s historic club FC Barcelona, which includes tours of the legendary Spanish club. SUM also manages promotional and marketing rights in the United States for Mexico’s most popular sports team, Club Deportivo Guadalajara (Chivas)
Another look at Goodson/Ream with a Gonzales sub?
I know, right?
You know what’s EVEN WORSE than scheduling a friendly on an international fixture date? Facing a quality opponent, selling lots of tickets, and making money. I AM OUTRAGED
I am ok with playing friendlies if they have a purpose other than money.
It would be great if Bob calls U23 players or the A team.
But knowing Bob he will probably call MLS players that dont have a future with the National team.
I dont care if we lose to Mexico with our U23 guys. Its time to start getting players ready for the Olympics or to find new players.
Look up SUM.
Both the US and Mexico will make lots of money. They are our regional rival but there is no zero sum (no pun intended) game here between us. This isn’t mercantilism.
There is no issue of Mexico negotiating a better deal based on leverage.
And posting from your mom’s basement on a Friday night doesn’t make you sound any less bitter.
The real problem is that SUM has the rights for the US and Mexico team (if the games are played in US soil).
SUM is the one that has been making the mexican federation lots of money.
No, it’s apparent you are not holding your breath at all…
What? Hahnemann has 9 caps, Ching has 45.
And Beasley has 93, although he probably has unrealistic hopes of reaching 100…
I’m sorry your looking at it wrong, I’m posting from your mom’s bedroom.
Agudelo-Davies
LD-Mixx-McCarty-Torres
John-Gonzalez-Ream-Marshall
Sean Johnson
Do you think that right now Ching is a National Team caliber player?
Read it again.
What does young have to do with it? Shouldn’t he call MLS/Mex players who will be possibilities for either the Olympics or World Cup?
I don’t want to see Rogers, Pearce, Wondo, or Bornstein, but what about other non-youngsters (I’m assuming that means U-23) like George John, Cameron, Gaven, Marshall, etc.?
No I’m saying none of them are.
But I do think Ching deserves a farewell game.
Some of you guys need to look up what it means to be a fan. If you actually think the people in charge on USA Soccer who have spent their lives devoted to it don’t care, you need a serious reality check. This has been going on far too long on this board. Support your team. Quit whining about stuff that you have no control over. Do I think it might be time for a new coach, YES! but to say the crap that is coming off this page about not spending another dollar supporting the cause. GET OVER YOURSELVES!
I want trophies and titles. I don’t need another friendly against Mexico.
Us soccer is floundering in some serious mediocrity right now. Stagnant and stale.
They play the same all the time, all I’m asking for is a new coach with a new perspective, too much to ask?
True I just didnt know how old they are.
They players you mentioned are ok and deserve a chance.
People can be a fan whatever way they want to be.
People can spend their money in whatever they wnat to spend that money.
People can have different opinions, if someone does not agree with you or you dont agree with them that doenst make them right or wrong.
But to judge someone and say you are not a real fan. Come on people act diferently if you chose to support a team with your eyes closed then good for you.
Some people choose to act a different way.
Oh so I guess I’m supposed to say “No YOUR mom…” now, right?
All I want is a direction. Are we going to try new players, play our A team or play guys that dont deserve to be on the National Team?
If Bradley chooses to stop calling his favorite players then US soccer will not evolve.
I dont care if he calls some 20 year old player that he saw playing in a park. As long as they have talent and soccer IQ I am all for it.
Torrado was playing wit Pumas Second tier team when he got his first call up to the mexican National team.
We need players with soccer IQ and ball skills. If they keep calling the same type of players,US soccer will never evolve.
I meant to say if Bradley chooses to stop calling his favorite players then US soccer will evolve.
Mexico is on the rise. Theyre U17 team is in the WC finals and just beat Germany. We didnt get out of the group stage.
Point is that not only is their SR team good… their under teams are too
needs to be reworded… were their only real rival. Theyre not top dog in the region.
BB could easily lose all 3 of these friendlies
kind of a crap shoot isn’t it. Last two times I saw the nats, BB turned it into a JV scrimmage with me shelling out a lot of money to watch
I have to think this will be a ‘B’ team and TV is in order
Can somebody in Mexico please steal J. Bornstein’s Passport… I never want to see that guy in a Nats shirt again
Think we get a better turnout if we require valid US passports/drivers licenses to buy tickets? (This should not be taken seriously, just a thought).
yeah, but for what side will Born play? he was on the cartel’s payroll last game.
Uh, the US team did get out of the group stage. Some crap luck to draw Germany in the octofinals.
Not that big a deal. They’re 17-year-olds, for christ’s sake. Aren’t people constantly complaining about how much the US overemphasizes winning games instead of skill development? Can’t have your cake and eat it too…
Look,
I was in Pasadena for the Gold Cup final. Eighty percent of the fans supported Mexico, but I bet at least 70% live in So Cal. The great part of being a U.S. soccer fan is that you get two teams–the old country team and U.S.A. First and second generations tend to root for the old country first; third gen and on tend to root for U.S.A. FYI, my old country team is Germany, so I got to hate Mexico a lot this month, but damn, you have to respect them.
sunil wants to get back on the mexican fans
Oh, as anecdotal evidence, the guy sitting next to us had a Mexico shirt and a big U.S. flag, and he cheered every goal.
Ben
No Blanco, I guess… he was still making appearances for ‘em at the time…
Really, though, that was somewhat close to a full side. And the US team was not only not a full side, it was decimated by guys getting sent out of camp early and by injuries. IIRC there were only about 14 or 15 field players left by the end.
It makes sense– the main team went to the Confed Cup. I suspect you’ll see the same thing in reverse in 2013: the US will win with an A- side, and Mexico will finish 2nd with a B- side.
Deeply ironic in light of the fact that Chile plays beautifully but rarely finishes chances… thus making the point, if it needed making, that possession is not only not nine-tenths of the law in soccer, it’s probably not even half.
I like watching them play but they’re an immensely frustrating team– constantly getting the ball into good positions and doing nothing with it.
Huh?
The US will play them twice in qualifying and, maybe, once in the Gold Cup (if you consider non-Confed-Cup qualifying Gold Cups “meaningful” in any sense).
We did get out of the group stage. Minor point, but straining for accuracy here.
Yes, because making money for the USSF is clearly a terrible idea.
?!?!
So, in other words, you want the US to not play again until World Cup qualifying?
Since that’s the next time the US could possibly be playing a game with even a notional chance at a “trophy” coming out of it.
It’s, ‘C.R.E.A.M get the money, dolla dolla bill y’all’. If you’re going to use it at least know the lyrics.
I wish all these “fans” claiming they’re “taking a break” from the team and such would take a break from posting. Save us all our sanity.
It’s a friendly. It’s a good chance to bring in some of the young guns that are going to be fighting for spots on the Olympic and the WC Quals teams to see where they’re at. And if they can come into a derby match and feel the atmosphere and intensity on both sides (even if it’s just a friendly, it’s still USA-Mex) then even better. If they’re going to be a part of the USA squad, let’s get them experience playing our biggest rival ASAP. I’m a Mets fan. I hate the Phillies, and lately they’ve been the better team. Does that mean that I don’t want to play them? Hell no. I want to play them, and destroy them. Even in preseason.
This “Sunil is in it for the money” stuff is crap. You schedule friendlies against good competition. Right now, you can’t beat scheduling a rematch against a rival that recently beat you. Fans get excited and players do too. And even if neither of us puts our stars out there, the youngn’s get a chance to play in the atmosphere and learn from it.
And the fire Bob Bradley crowd? Can it until he at least picks the roster. Or at least do us all a solid and keep it to yourselves. If BB comes out and picks Bornstein again, then yeah, you got a beef. But BB has started to show some tactical and roster flexibility as of late and I, for one, will wait until he actually picks his squad before I start whining about roster selections.
All that said, here’s hoping we get to see a bunch of the young talent selected (whatever kids are getting regular playing time): Chandler, Ream, Boss, Gonzalez, Kitchen, Lichaj, Shea, Mixx, Gatt, Gyau, Agudelo and more. And Davies, too.
I forgot the National Team was supposed to make money instead of representing the US.
So what you are saying is that who cares if we lose the rest of the games from here to eternity as long as they make money.
I wonder if Bornstein ever uses the internet or if the experience is too traumatizing for him. (I kind of feel bad for the guy. He seems like an okay guy; he just has no business playing international soccer).
Its a free country and I do whatever I want. As long as I am not causing harm to anyone.
If i dont want to act like you want me to should I just leave. I didnt know that you owned this site.
Bob Bradley will not be fired.
It will be a rematch if they call the same players.
We will know who Bradley calls 2 weeks before the game. So we will just have to wait and see.
Playing Mexico promises a sold out, 70k stadium and literally millions of dollars for the US Soccer Federation. Are USMNT fans the only people left in the world that don’t realize that money makes the world go around? Want a higher profile coach? Need money. Want to improve the youth system? Need money. And on and on. What does it matter if Mexico and US field B teams if the gate is huge? The US is very lucky to have this revenue stream anytime they need it. We do not have a rich federation, so these games are essential. The bonus is that we get to see some young players. Most will struggle, but usually there’s one or two a game that are intriguing.
Agree…most Mexico fans I talked to at the match were actual So Cal residents.
Best post award.
IMO, the more friendlies against solid competition the better, especially if those friendlies pump a lot of cash into our soccer federation. Some people on here need to relax…
Actually, if this is going to be a North American-only roster, I think Bornstein is on the team, right?
That’s all very nice; I think no one would be complaining if there were any indication that USSF would use the money to hire a high-profile coach. Or if there was some kind of plan about how the youth system is being improved (or more accurately, if USSF did a better job of communicating what the plan was).
In other words, earning money is great and I’m sure fans could deal with the potential trauma of facing Mexico again if something good seemed likely to come of it, but USSF has done nothing to convince fans that they recognize things aren’t going well and something is being done. Instead we get Sunil’s (umpteenth) PR flop of suggesting that an announcement on Bradley would be coming and then giving us his brilliant “open letter” last week.
To be clear, I’m not saying the USSF will squander all the money. I’m not really sure what they are doing with it. That’s the problem — the communication failure. Maybe they’re also squandering the money, but I just don’t know.
Right on brotha!
I don’t think Brian Ching, with 45 caps and 11 international goals to his name, deserves a farewell game.
Yeah that’s right, because you’re ignorant, USSF are spending all our cash on hookers and blow.
At this friendly, the national team will both be making money AND… representing the US!
Athletes and teams get better by facing better competition. You want to play Belize instead of Mexico?
???? You understand that teams around the world play friendlies right? why not play against a good team that’s close, and will attract fans? If they weren’t playing, or were playing some crappy team that nobody cares about, you would be complaining about how inept the US program is that they aren’t getting valuable minutes for player… Jesus, people on this site complain over EVERYTHING…. I sometimes feel like I’m watching a never ending segment on FOX about Obama, no matter what happens, it’s a catastrophe. US soccer can do no good, even if we would’ve beaten Mexico in the GC, the fact that we lost to Panama would be what everyone would be talking about
It just happened a couple weeks ago…overkill and money-grab. The World Cup is a long ways away…
That’s exactly what I said….
The wording is fine. We only share a border with 2 countries, and Canada can’t compete with us. Mexico is our only true rival. You need to make your meaning clearer too.
I don’t understand this comment thread at all. 90% (arbitrary number, meant to suggest “most of the ___”) of the comments are irrational and barely intelligible. I can pick out the obvious trolls, but there can’t really be THIS many!
Scouting, mostly. Look at the number of dual nationals brought in recently. The development and cultivation of the Latin and European aspects of American culture seems to be a priority. Look at the youth system. Certainly, a portion of the money earned by the federation goes to pay the people employed by the USSF… but it seems to me they are not standing idle or catering only to those rich parents who want their kids to be soccer stars.
Preach. It.
It IS a free country, which is why your post is here are the post calling you a whiny b$tch is here to.
Great post that is well put. What open letter?
Replace Donovan with Shea and insert Castillo and you’re on to something…
If DmB can find his form there is no reason to think he can’t contribute to another qualifying campaign. But that is as big an if as Adu finding his way back to camp, something many gave incredibly long odds on.
What, we don’t have valid reasons to fire Bob Bradley who has been coach for only 5 years? We have to wait unless and until he calls up Bornstein again? Who made you king? Bradley has made some right roster decisions after YEARS of people like me correctly pointing out that he was making wrong ones, such as playing Bornstein, Rogers, Onyewu, Kljestan, Clark while underplaying Edu and Adu.
Bob has had his chances, and we did ok at the World Cup but could have done better. History shows that the 2nd time around is tougher. Bob and US Soccer said not to judge them on the Spain debacle, as the Gold Cup was more important. And now you tell us that we can’t judge him on the Gold Cup whipping by Mexico? I would submit that people like you are the problem–you are the reason Gulati doesn’t make a change and why unless a coaching change is made the US will be mired in mediocrity. I want the US to win, and with the right coach I think we can do a lot better. Our defense is a joke and the players seem to have tuned out Bob. A coach like Marcello Lippi can almost certainly do better with the same player pool.
I see no value in facing Mexico in a friendly. We need to beat them when it counts and work on developing our roster so we can beat them when it matters. Did you see what the Mexican U-17s did? Did you see what the American U-17s did? I am afraid Mexico is in a position to dominate the US again for years to come. A friendly won’t change that. I guess it may make money for Ussoccer.
I don’t know why people are complaining about this friendly. I would watch the USA if they fielded the B team, C team, doesn’t matter. STARS AND STRIPES FOREVER.
Let’s see if we can give some young kids some experience. I know its in the middle of getting ready for the European seasons, but it would be nice to see Diskeruud.
Just post INS/ICE trucks outside and INS/ICE agents at the gate …..
This is why I don’t get the vitriol of fan-sites. On or off the pitch, players are still people.
Yes, Bornstein seems like a good guy. Moreover, kudos to him for answering his national team’s call; can’t fault him for that. We can fault BB for calling him in, but after that GC fiasco, I imagine Bob’s finally learned his lesson in that regard.
Busted.
Well said, abc. It’s nice to see some posters here with a sense of perspective.
Why? Americans clearly opted for European-style. The Japanese preferred the South American.
SSC who do you have in mind to liven things up?
I got interviewed by ABC7 at the game and made a note to point out every mexico fan who jumped into the camera screaming “MEXICO!” and said “He’s from Gardena” “She’s from Palmdale” “Oh I know that guy, he’s from Glendale” “Palo Alto that one” “He’s from Reseda” “He’s from Riverside”.
She said I got off topic, but I made the evening news.
The American racial melting pot is very similar to Brazil, I believe it could play in the Brazilian style.
You and Jeff assume that most El Tri fans are undocumented, I hate to burst your bubble, but most fans El Tri fans that attend games are in fact US Citizens.
If this was a pure money grab, it wouldn’t be in Philadelphia. It would be in a city with a larger Mexican population in a stadium with a much larger capacity. They can almost always fill the Rose Bowl or the Coliseum in LA for a US-Mexico game. The fact that they are playing this in Philly probably allows them to bring over some European players.
Oh great, another “see no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil” patriot. Just wondering, do you have the same attitude toward your local NFL, MLB, NBA, or NHL teams. Accepting poor performance from your national team doesn’t make you a patriot. Boycott USSoccer and the US — Mexico game!!
My bad. I just realized it’s at the Philly NFL stadium, rather than the Union’s band box. That will generate lots of money.
As I said, though, this permits all of the teams’ Euro-based players to attend.
There’s also Olympic qualifying, which will be at least one more match.
Still, it’s not like there are dozens of friendlies every year and we can just afford to waste Int’l dates on teams we play several times every world cup cycle anyway.
Nitpick all you want…6 games or 3 games against Mexico in a half dozen years is a heck of a lot more than we’ve played against:
Any African team other than Ghana, Egypt or South Africa
Any Asian team, excluding Australia
The vast majority of European teams (I personally want a friendly with Russia)
Why don’t you go to their website and read their annual report? Too mug work? USSF is a non-profit, 501 (c)3. Their tax return and annual report are in the public domain.
Ok short passes. Boycott if you want to.
The 70,000 Mexican fans surely won’t, which means it will be a rousing success for the US soccer coffers. I’ll go to the game and have fun pulling for my team.
And yes, I pull for my team whether they win or lose. That doesn’t mean that I “accept” poor performance, but unless you are the owner, or GM, your asinine notion of “boycotting will change US soccer” will only hurt you.
Let me pose a question. Who do you think hates losing to Mexico more: The players and coaches who are actually on the field, or us, the fans.
For most professional athletes, what got them where they are is their competitive spirit, a lot of skill, and a lot of hard work. To think that US soccer doesn’t abhor losing to Mexico is simply a laughable theory.
Mr. Gulati: This would be fun to look foward to if we had a new, international-level coach. Bob Bradley has killed all of my passion for the team.
Actually, you have proven a good point…people need to start appreciating the country they live, and that has given them the opportunity to increase their standard of living. They should really think hard about that fact before they throw plastic bottles, with god knows what in them, towards U.S. players on the pitch.
What do you think of 7:30 weekend kickoffs in MLS on the West Coast when the opposing team is from the East Coast? 10:30PM starts are rubbish for those of us back east.
I also would love to see Gyau dress up for the senior team. I am not sure if he is ready yet, but he is a very exciting prospect. His dad actually coaches in Bethesda, Maryland, and (recognizing the shortcomings of the US youth development system) he used to send his son to spend summers to play soccer in Brazil at Zico’s academy, among other places.
Actually, the US U17 advanced from their group, but lost to Germany in the elimination round.
who was booing the US national anthem?
Why not play this game in Mexico in another stadium other than Azteca. It’s all a cash grab, plain and simple. Not interested in supporting or watching it either.
+1000…. cheap way to earn some cash. Another bad Gulati move. Mexico just kicked our @$$ when it counted most. No benefit to this game. Fans should boycott and send a message to the USSF.
This is all and only about $$$. Maybe and I have hope that this will be Bradley’s sayonara or adieu. I hope the USSF is using these friendlies to get $$$ for the new international and well known coach who can come and get this ship somehwat straight. I’m hoping. :roll eyes:
If you can’t stay up past midnight on the weekends, then you’re too old.
Tim is full of vitriol and &*%^*(%!
What? did BB cut you from a youth team somewhere, or fail to notice your (or your kid’s) outstanding talent and didn’t even select him?
Get a clue in 2009! Itwas tough to watch, but it was not really Mexico’s B team, it clearly was a US B/B- team and that was by design and a result of the Confed Ccup which was a much more important tournament.
+1000
BB has shown more roster flexibility that virtually ANY other National team coach anywhere. He has had about 100 different players on a game-day roster in the last 13 months. True, not all of those players actually played, but to imagine BB has not been out searching the world for US players who could cut it is just plain wrong. How many of you ever heard of Chandler until Bradley called him in? Which of you thought C. Davies was so hot until Bob capped him and stuck with him through the 2007 Copa America and into his successful Confed Cup. For all the crap people lay on Bornstein, he was the LB in the group stage of hte Confed Cup until Baocanegra returned from injury, he scored the goal that gushed the US into first place in WC qualifying. I happen to think he is more suited to midfield than back because he has too many moments when he loses focus, but he is still a pretty good player. The bile so many her direct at him is uncalled for and simply evil.
If this squad is filled with too many “new” players, it will not be fair to them. It is impossible to fit into a team in a few days when everyone is trying to fit in, there must be a core of players who know what is going on and be the models for the new guys to fit into. That is something Bradley has done quite well; Lichaj, Ream, Chandler, and even Jones benefited from being able to learn what was expected and from having teammates who knew what was going on.
I predict the “friendly” roster will be 90% from the 100 who have been on a game day roster in the last year and 10% others. Anything else would be unreasonable.
I see little predictive power in how 16 year old soccer players perform against other 16 year-olds. For every Donavon, Beasley, Holden, Bradley who did well at U-17, and continued to improve, there are more who looked like world beaters at 16, then .. For example, Eddie Johnson scored 23 goals in 25 games for the US U-17 team, then did well in a round of WC qualifying but since then has hardly matched his early success.
I would not put too much weight on the U-17 WC, but of course, it doesn’t hurt for Mexico and it does raise the bar in Mexico for all the players who did not quite make the squad this time.
Naturally, given the choice, I would rather have the USA win the U-17 WC than flame out, but neither has that much predictive power.
That is silly. No coach anywhere can force strikers to suddenly start scoring goals, nor force defenders to keep up their attention span for the full game or not get turned by clever dribbler.
Now that the clever Klinsmann has helped turn Toronto F.C. from a poor team into an awful team, at least people have stopped calling for him to replace Bradley.
What I hope is that some of the young strikers for the USA start producing and that the young defenders for the USA can concentrate and play well for 90+ minutes.
Longer term, I hope that parents in the USA will stop paying so much attention to their kids’ won-loss records (which only shows which youth team is bigger, more athletic and more brutal in defending) and more attention to the amount of time their kids spend playing soccer on their own and improving their skills
Which of the 100 players Bradley has had on a game day roster in the last year are his favorites and what evidence do you have that any other choice would have been better? It is hard to fault calling in the MLS leading scorer, and Onweyu is a very good player, how do you think trying him out to see if he has fully recoverd is playing favorites. Left back is such a problem, especially since the “best” choice Bocanegra had to be used to shore up the middle, Bornstein at least knows the system (and in the last game he was an emergency sub behind a less experienced player, the other choices are, well less than compelling).
If the US parents cared about soccer brains and skill instead of their kid’s W-L record in meaningless youth games, the US would be much better.
After the Gold Cup Tim Chandler said in a July 2011 interview:
“If I am invited, I would love to play for the United States again. I have a very good opinion of Bob Bradley as a coach,” Chandler said.
“It is my goal and dream to represent the United States at the 2014 World Cup. What I said in March is true. I will absolutely not play for Germany. There is no way that will happen.”
The German Football Association has acknowledged Chandler’s decision and has said it will not pursue him.
I am not sure how that refelcts the opinion of the trolls here who are “certain” Chandler will play for Germany because he is so disappointed in the USA and Bradley.
@ Ricky u just got it, this what been wanted Bob Bradley to do, is a mixed of new players with just a couple of veterans. I will used some players from the U20 like Wood, Conor, Gyau, Amobi, Agbossoumonde,Lleget, Kitchen Garza etc.with some new Men national Players. Veterans like Donovan, Micheal Bradly, Adu, Holden, Jozy, Edu. New comers like Chandler, Mixx, Licha, Bedoya, Bunbury and Agudelo.. This will be a strong team. anyone who’s age is under 30 or maybe under 27..
But they won’t get a real coach. That is the issue. With the USSF it has always been about the money (for themselves), not what is best for US soccer.
Friends:
I really do not know anything about this game.
It has not been promoted at all in Mexican media, and I watch sports news every night!
Mexico for sure will field a “B” or “C” team for sure, as the domestic champioship has just started.
No Chicharitos, Barreras, Guardados, or the rest in the Gold Cup line up will be there.
Just a money maker in my opinion, although it will still go inside the record books.
Maybe It will be promoted the prior day, or not at all.
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