USA changing gears quickly, focusing on Canada

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By FRANCO PANIZO

FOXBOROUGH, Mass. – Saturday's 4-0 defeat to Spain was the most thorough defeat the U.S. men's national team has suffered since a 5-0 loss to Mexico in the 2009 Gold Cup final, and it is something the Americans are planning to quickly move on from.

Not because they necessarily want to, but because they have to.

The U.S. team's Gold Cup opener in Detroit, Michigan is in two days, leaving the Americans little time to sulk over what went wrong and what could have been done better versus the world champs. Instead, the United States must focus on the task at hand: Canada.

"It's not ideal," said Michael Bradley of the three-day turnaround. "But having said that it is what it is. We all have experience of playing in games that come quickly, whether it's during the season and you're playing Wednesday Saturday, or different times in a World Cup, or Gold Cups in the past. We all know how to do it."

That type of mentality is something that head coach Bob Bradley will need from all his players if the United States is to avoid losing its first ever match in the group stage of the Gold Cup. The United States' northern neighbor will provide a different type of challenge, however.

Canada may not be as talented as Spain, but more than bragging rights will be up for grabs when it faces the U.S. team for the first time since a controversial 2-1 U.S. win in the semifinals of the 2007 Gold Cup, a tournament the Americans went on to win.

"They're not as strong as Spain, but there is more on the line," said Tim Ream, who started and went the distance against Spain in his fourth cap for the United States. "They're going to come out flying and we've got to come out flying. It's do-or-die time now.

"Obviously it's a group stage (match), but we want to win the group and get out of there on top. They're going to come in with a little chip on their shoulder and we've got to match their intensity, so we've got to go in and take care of business."

With Dwayne de Rosario and Julian de Guzman leading Canada, beating the Canucks won't be easy. Not when the game is being played so close to Canadian border, and not when Canada has posted a 2-1-2 record in its last five games against decent oppostion.

The United States will be favored to trump Canada course, but Bob Bradley knows better than that, especially when the Canadians are hoping to beat their archnemesis for the first time since April 1985.

"A team that we have a lot of respect for, a team that comes into this Gold Cup feeling confident," said Bob Bradley of Canada. "They've had some good results in the last six months, and so we understand that the first game of any tournament is always a tough one, and we expect a real difficult game against a rival."

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What do you think of the team's three-day turnaround? Worried about Canada? Think the Americans will win?

Share your thoughts below.

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93 Responses to USA changing gears quickly, focusing on Canada

  1. ga-gone says:

    I guess the gear we are switching out of is ‘reverse’?

  2. irishapple21 says:

    Unfortunately, the USA is not going to win the Gold Cup this time around. We have no decent strikers and our defense is suspect. I think this tournament is going to be won handily by Mexico.

  3. MSNats says:

    +1, and michael bradley looks like a guy who is trying to drive a standard for the first time when he’s only ever seen automatic in this pic

  4. GoalieGrey says:

    Canada is playing confident soccer lately, at least when on the attack…they have been unorganized defensively however, and can fall asleep for periods of time during matches.

    That being said, when Canada is in form, they are a tough squad…this should be a great opening match

  5. marko says:

    please do not feed this Troll!! thank you and have a great Sunday!

  6. Jim in Atlanta says:

    Troll….

  7. houdynamofan says:

    If we change out of those shirts with the Beauty Queen sash we might win a game or two. Just saying. Look like a queen, play like a queen.

  8. maka says:

    No, irishapple is a die hard NYRB and Team USA fan. He is being realistic. Learn the definition of troll.

  9. PurpleGold says:

    yeah we should get shirts with flames and bald eagles on it, and kid rock, and strippers in american flag bikinis with the bottoms that go way above their hips, and monster trucks, and fireworks. Stuff that draws from American Soccer history.

  10. maka says:

    I feel like Mexico has deficiencies. Their defense isn’t excellent.

  11. Brian says:

    I’ve got tickets to the Gold Cup Final. I’m a little worried if we are even going to make it there.

  12. Brian says:

    AMERICUHHH! F*$K YEAH!

  13. houdynamofan says:

    i’ll go with your suggestions (except Kid Rock) – it is a bit extreme but whatever.

  14. MJC says:

    He is being pessimistic in my opinion. I think we’ll rebound from the whipping Spain gave us and have a good gold cup.

  15. PurpleGold says:

    but kid rock is an american badass

  16. houdynamofan says:

    His face might distract from the strippers. The strippers are the key I think to your suggestions. It a winner.

    We could play his music in the locker room before the game to get the guys to man up. If you think that fits your plan.

  17. Joamiq says:

    Hahahaha.

    These kits are awesome.

  18. Mike says:

    People commenting here seriously need to learn the definition of a troll.

    Someone saying that the US will not win the Gold Cup is not a troll. In fact, being realistic is the opposite of trolling.

    Someone making a joke about the horrific performance on Saturday is not trolling, they are in fact being realistic.

    You want trolling? USA SUCKS!

  19. donttreadonme says:

    I will be at the game Tuesday. Looking forward to it. Id like to see Jozy and Juan score – really, they are almost at a place where its coming down to a MUST score.

  20. hogatroge says:

    I’m not too worried about our defense. Starting the B team definitely took its toll yesterday, especially against Spain.

    However, Goodson and Cherundolo looked strong (aside from that last goal). Leave Gooch out of the starting lineup, start the second half defense and a strong midfield, and the US won’t have too much of a problem.

    Wondo positioned himself well yesterday with minimal results…it won’t quiet the “he doesn’t belong at this level” trolls, but it should. Agudelo worked hard, and Dempsey can always be pushed up with Donovan and Bradley to handle ball distribution in the MF.

    I wouldn’t say the USMNT is a lock to win, but the dire straits everyone predicts is a bit silly. Hopefully yesterday lit a fire under their butts.

  21. hogatroge says:

    I’m not too worried about Agudelo… 2 goals in his first 5 (6?) caps is not worrisome to me. Yesterday, the only thing I could really criticize was his ability to stay on his feet.

    People are saying Jozy did well enough yesterday, but I hardly noticed him.

    That said, maybe we push Dempsey up and pray some younger U.S. strikers bust their asses to earn a call up over the next couple years (Bunbury, Doyle, Braun, Bruin, Salgado, Mwanga pending citizenship issues…)

  22. Alex G says:

    who`s watching the USWNT against Mexico, those girls know how to play but they don´t know how to convert.

  23. ga-gone says:

    I think we should replicate the ‘Hulkamania’ look for our team. Maybe even tear-away jerseys for when Tim Howard gets really pumped up.

  24. A says:

    If we don’t get our Sh@%t together Canada might suprise, I haven’t seen nothing from this team that warrants they’ll be favorites in this tournament. The forwards need to score like their oppose to, and the defense needs to quit watching the ball and mark their men.

  25. Jim in Atlanta says:

    learn the definition of a life.

  26. Duck says:

    word. the only touches mexico has on the ball are clearances on an errant US pass. if the USWNT were kicking field goals, though, they would be in business. a lot of great passing and movement on the buildup

  27. marden08 says:

    Spain was very good . We were very horrible. Gulati’s and Bob Bradley’s butts should be on the line for this. If we win the Gold cup it should buy them time. Other wise it is time for a change. Both need to go. We have not played well since the Confederations cup and I am starting to think that was an aberration. In 18 games in 2010 and 2011 we have won 5 out of 18 games. since the 2010 world cup we have won 1 out of 8. Bob Bradley blowing off poor perfromances is getting tiring. We don’t need to panic .We need to change.

  28. ELAC says:

    Not a troll, but we can’t win the Gold cup with smoke and mirrors. Bob Bradley has to step it up because we look like we are regressing. We’re too dependent on Donovan. Gooch was always a liability but his athletic ability masked his poor decision making. Spain exposed us for what we really are, vulnerable and not in form.
    We need to be realistic. We have a great opportunity before us. We have to win our group. Period.

  29. djs says:

    And what could be a more appropriate uni for a game in Detroit (“Made in America”) than one with Kid Rock… unless it would feature twin rappers: Deuce and Eminem!

  30. TheFreshman says:

    Mexico’s keeper is playing out of her mind. I miss when the USMNT played with that kind of wreckless abandon on defense. But I am very hopeful for both the Gold Cup and the Women’s World Cup. And it looks like there are more fans for this game than when NYRB actually plays.

  31. MadKingGeorge says:

    Just because you see reality does not mean you dont support the national team. I.E- If my sister were to swim a race in the pool against Michael Phelps I would say the My sister will lose – big time. I am a huge supporter of sister but my Judgement is that phelps would win the race- easily.

    Same with the USMNT- Irishapple is a supporter of the USMNT but thinks Mexico is the better team.

    How can you say he is a troll? Logic and facts say otherwise.

  32. Vince says:

    I wouldn’t overrate Mexico just because they whupped a half-reserve New Zealand squad (it wasn’t even many of NZ’s regulars), and I wouldn’t underrate the US for having its reserves get squashed by a B+ Spain squad.

    The Business Side of US Soccer (Dan Flynn and Sunil Gulati) scheduled that “high profile” friendly three days before a real match. And I applaud Bob Bradley for going “Eff you guys and your “high profile” friendly — I’m coaching for results in the GC. I’m not burning my regulars 3 days before our toughest group opponent.”

  33. bizzy says:

    It is what it is…..we have shown our butts to the world before a major competition. Smoked 4-0 with almost no threat on offense, and knowing our rival tied them and scored a goal. RSL couldn’t dominate a top college team they way they schooled us…..but there is the good:

    Robbie Rogers: shouldnt have been in the line-up at all. He had no reason being on the pitch and is not USMNT material.

    Gooch: has done a lot for the nat’l team but in current from he’s done….No ball control, no vision, can’t pass out of the back….hosed

    Tim Ream: I think played well when paired with the right players in Defense but still too green to play in the starting 11.

    Spector: For the last F***ing time, he is not a right back, regardless of what Sir Alex Ferguson thinks. BB is beating the same drums and expecting a different tune…..not going to happen, he’s a midfielder.

    And for Michael Bradley….Coming from the NUMBER ONE BRADLEY HATER ON IVES…..I’M A HATER NO MORE. He displayed skill, control and vision to salvage and try to control the midfield when things where bananas. His presence was immediately felt. Even though he doesn’t have a team…doesn’t play full 90 with villa….and I always say he’s shown favoritism….damn it they should because he’s the BEST (can’t believe I’m saying this!!!) option we have in CM.

    (SBI-I have to say that, given your history of criticizing Bradley, I give you a ton of credit for being able to admit that you were wrong about Bradley not being good enough. It’s a shame that some others are choosing to go the other way and come up with rather insane theories regarding Saturday’s match to avoid giving Michael Bradley any credit.)

  34. Vince says:

    With Josh Simpson, Atiba Hutchison, and DeRo, Canada has a bit of an attack. But their backline is possibly worse than the US.

    I want two strikers on the field (Jozy AND Agudelo) and Donovan, Bradley, and Dempsey to really push the tempo.

    Keep the pressure on Canada’s suspect D in order to not allow their 3 decent attacking players to get any rhythm.

  35. Alex G says:

    They really need to improve their finishing, it´s not good enough, great goal though but it´s Mexico, they should be fairly easy.

  36. Lil' Zeke says:

    After major tournaments does tend to be a time of change regardless of the outcome. So rightly or wrongly you just might get your wish.

  37. MSNats says:

    Ha, No intent to troll. I love our team and fully expect us to show strongly against Canada, but everyone has to admit we looked to be in reverse yesterday.

  38. gabe says:

    Look, many questions have been answered about this team, questions that would have persisted without the game against Spain.

    1. Michael Bradley and Stuart Holden are the two best CM in the pool.

    With Holden injured for the Gold Cup, the question for Coach Bradley becomes who to play next to Michael, Jermaine Jones or Maurice Edu? Both are similar players, with Jones having a more prestigious reputation. However, while Bradley is certainly more attack minded than either of them, the truth is that the return of Stuart Holden after the summer will almost certainly mean that one (or both) of the other two will be relegated to the bench.

    2. The back four is very much a concern

    There were many people on this board (myself included) that pined for the opportunity be given to Eric Lichaj and Tim Ream to test themselves against top competition. The result revealed that neither is quite ready for a regular place in the starting XI, although I would contend that Ream’s difficulties stemmed not only from personal errors, but also from a very sub par performance from his counterpart in the center of the defense.

    Steve Cherunolo is clearly at the top of the pool. I also think that, until he can regain the form he showed pre-2009 injury, Onyewu needs to be benched in favor or Clarence Goodson. Goodson has emerged as a force at the club level, and has been consistent in his appearances for the national team. At this stage, he is more solid than Onyewu, who seems plagued by lapses in focus and concentration since his injury. Physically, he is obviously not right. A situation to monitor as well has to be Timmy Chandler, and here’s to hoping that he will stay in the mix with the USA as opposed to being wooed by Germany.

    3. Jozy Altidore needs to re-invent himself

    Some may remember when Jozy burst on the scene. The guy was knocking in all sorts of goals. However, at current stage, he remains an incredibly raw talent with a sometimes suspect work ethic, making poor decisions on the ball with an inability to hold possession (although he didn’t have much of a chance to prove this wrong against Spain). Off the ball, his football IQ remains lower than one would like, as he struggles to put himself into the right positions and make the right runs at the right times. The guy has the physical tools to succeed, and can be an outright menace when his head is right. However, we haven’t seen that form in ages, and until then, the forward pool for the United States will suffer.

    4. The USA misses the speed of Charlie Davies

    People may further question the omission of Teal Bunbury in favor of Chris W. after this Gold Cup, as the USA lacks any real speed at the forward position. Juan Agudelo is certainly not slow by any means, but does not have the freakish pace of a Charlie Davies that made the USA so dangerous against teams like Spain and Brazil in the Confederations Cup 2009, evidenced so well on counter attacks.

    5. Landon Donovan, Clint Dempsey, and Michael Bradley are the core of this team

    Pretty obvious. However, USMNT fans have long bemoaned these three for one reason or another (“Landycakes is a baby,” “Dempsey is lazy,” “Michael Bradley is only in the squad because…”). However, it is obvious that these are our best players. Furthermore, I think at only 23, Michael has the potential to be one an absolute legend for the USA (especially if Holden comes back strong) and could provide the nucleus for a strong US team for years to come.

  39. MSNats says:

    If we’re going for that kind of music, why not play some CREED?

    AAHHWWWYEEEAAAAHHHHAAHH!!!

  40. Jon says:

    I’m so sick and tired of hearing “it’s not ideal” when talking about the US team before years

  41. marco says:

    “It’s not ideal,” said Michael Bradley of the three-day turnaround. “But having said that it is what it is. We all have experience of playing in games that come quickly…”

    Bradley is one of too many US players who weren’t playing at all, or are playing very little. The three day excuse must be listed second to bench splinters.

  42. Marcos Millman says:

    Except for Hector Moreno!

  43. kiwi says:

    New Zealand played the exact same squad they used in the WC, what are you talking about?

  44. JJ's shin says:

    The next pro athlete that says “It is what it is” needs to be punched in the face.

  45. ben in el cajon says:

    They just goatta step their cliches up to the next level.

  46. Isaac says:

    The biggest positive I can take from yesterday is that Michael Bradley was very impressive from deep in midfield. This will allow Jermaine Jones to play in the advanced role that he thrived in for Schalke, and the role that Michael used to occupy.

    We know that our 4-4-2/4-2-2-2 is pretty reliable, but something that I would like to see is the lineup/shape that we saw in the second half of the World Cup.

    (link to this11.com)

    (Replace Ream with Bocanegra, my mistake)

    Kljestan will do the job that Feilhaber did, shuttling between left and central midfield. Dempsey, as he did in South Africa, will drop deep to link play. Donovan will come inside from the right, although still look to provide width and crosses. Altidore will again have the freedom to drift wide left as he likes to do so often. Bradley showed us yesterday how good he can be from deep positions, and dropped between the centerbacks very well to help us build play from the back. Him dropping between the centerbacks should allow Cherundolo and Lichaj to get forward.

  47. Fred Garvin says:

    We might need to donate all of our extra Boot Straps..

  48. marden08 says:

    Gabe’s analysis was excellent. I don’t like to criticize players They are what they are and it is the coach’s job to put them into positions where they have the comfort level and ability to be successful. But Gooch is shot and Jozey is dangerously treading water. There are young hungry players from every country in the world passing him by.

  49. Brian says:

    I like it. But Ream isn’t quite ready yet. Plus I doubt Bob leaves our captain on the bench.

  50. MSNats says:

    I’m not a big fan of sports cliches either, but I don’t mind too much as long as everybody goes out there and gives it 110% every game ;). I’d love for our guys to be more creative in their comments as well, but it is what it is.

  51. Todd says:

    Sadly, I think Gooch’s National Team days are behind him. He just has not been the same player since his injury. I hate it for him, but that’s the truth.

    Goodson, Ream, Lichaj, Bocanegra, Cherundolo need to be the ones in our back 4.

  52. Nathan says:

    bizzy,

    I’ve been visiting this site for what, 6 years now, and this is my first (and probably last time) commenting.

    Just want to say that your last paragraph gives me hope for humanity.

    Takes balls to go back on your previous comments; never thought it would happen, and g*dd*amn I respect that.

    Nathan

  53. Nano says:

    I’m gonna say it, I think Jozy should start against Canada on the bench.

  54. david says:

    I just wish we had Stu Holden to pair with Mb90 in the middle. our mids would be strong with donovan and dempsey on the outside

  55. Isaac says:

    Haha. I said to replace Ream with Bocanegra in the post didn’t I?

  56. vik says:

    all of these suggestions would make for an epic jersey. lol

  57. KMac says:

    So educate us, what is a troll?

  58. MicahK says:

    Why are people saying Gooch is not the same before the injury??? Even before his injury when USA played quality teams he would get faked out very bad and get out of position. Look at world cup 2006. In the confed cup Spain and Brazil games he did good other then that. his mobility is none existent.

  59. Jon L. says:

    USA will win against Canada, but it may be a fight. They need to refocus themselves after the beat down that the Spanish gave them.

  60. Stephen says:

    That’s five.

  61. Scooter says:

    I’m Canadian, and I’ll say that the US should handle Canada without much trouble. The quality gap has grown further since the 07 GC semi match. The cdn back line and goalkeeping have regressed significantly. Deguzman is a shadow of what he was back in 07… Probably shouldn’t be starting anymore. Dero is being asked to play a more disciplined central playmaker role for Canada thes days… No more freelance out wide. Their a new generation of mids/attackers that Canada is building around for this WCQ cycle:
    – Josh Simpson (wide left)
    – Simeon Jackson (wide right or CF)
    – Atiba Hutchison (centre-mid)
    These are the guys to watch out for.

    Matches against the US are a big deal fir Canada so our boys will be focused, but we just don’t have enough

  62. Stephen says:

    I am going to say this, and I may eat my words, but I have a feeling that Dempsey and one of the either Agudelo or Wondolowski are going to have a monster Gold Cup. I just have this feeling. Dempsey is somewhat due, he hasn’t scored for the Nats since the WC and even then it was a suspect goal. I liked the heart and work rate of both JA and Wondo yesterday and I have a feeling one of them will be a hero.

    But, what do I know, I’m just a commenter on here. haha.

  63. Stephen says:

    I think that’s what the USA does best, fight. That’s what was so difficult about yesterday is that it seemed like no one cared. Heart is what it will take to win the GC.

  64. Steve C says:

    I would say the talent gap between your sister and Michael Phelps isn’t comparable to that of Mexico & the USA. Kind of a crappy analogy you made there.

  65. MJC says:

    Coming from an engineer I think your sample size is to small to draw any valid conclusion. Though I do hope Juan has a high ceiling and great future with the USMNT. That said Jozy is also young and I hope he gets of the snide soon.

  66. Paul says:

    No question the Spain game was a cheap money-grab by USSF, and I’ll know better before I pay good $ for a glorified scrimmage in the future. I knew the game was a waste when the US lineup was announced.

    I’m thinking with the abundance of MFs (Holden & Geilhaber excepted) on the GC roster, that we may see a willingness by BB to move Donovan and/or Dempsey up top in this tourney. Altidore is treading water, and JA and CW are still unproven. Unless one of these guys break out, I wouldn’t be surprised to see a change. I’m think Altidore has the shortest leash right now.

  67. Alex G says:

    Yeah!!, an old pumas player, great player actually.

  68. martha says:

    Its not a case of Ream not being ready…he’s just not good enough. He can pass ok but you need your defender to actually be good defensively …. Which he is not. Also worried about mex young talent..we have none. Landon Jones Dempsey and Howard are all over 28 with no one coming up. Angudelo doesn’t even start for NY. Jr can’t pass. Holden is already 24 and looks to be a JOB with the constant injuries, altidore and adu are in bust territory and Davies is done unless we get a pk in every nat game we play.

  69. hogatroge says:

    Retorting as a fellow engineer… statistical analysis has no place in sports unless it is bast*rdized or trivialized.

    That said, Agudelo’s already shown he can poach goals. Really, the tying goal against Chile in January should have been his given that he earned the PK (which Bunbury took).

  70. Phil says:

    I’m sorry all I heard was strippers….

  71. Phil says:

    I may get shelled for this suggestion, but what the hell….

    —————–Howard————
    -Cherundolo–Goodson-Bocanegra–Lichaj-
    —————Bradley————–
    ——Dempsey———–Donovan—–
    —————–Adu————-
    ——–Altidore——Agudelo——–

    if that doesn’t click after 45 sub in Jones for Adu and shift to a more traditional 4-4-2

  72. timothy says:

    really? No one coming up? US won the Milk Cup last year and MLS saw the last 2 MLS drafts being some of the strongest fields ever. We’ve been seeing a major youth movement in the last few years and I think it’s starting to show results. It was nice to see that FC Dallas’s youth squad crushed Barcelona’s a couple weeks ago too. Hans Backe is trying to slowly move along Agudelo, so his head doesn’t get too big. MB was third in the Eredivisie in scoring a few years as a midfielder and has been slowly rising from lesser to better leagues. You can’t blame Holden for injuries when they have been things like leg breaks. He’ll recover and be fine. Altidore is still wanted all over Europe and can still find his breakout season. Drogba didn’t find his form until he was, what, 26? Adu has allowed people in the US to realise how to not bring along youth. And Davies just began starting for his club, so give him time to get back to top form. Our domestic league has gotten incredibly more competitive in the last couple years and is at the point where in order to break through, you have to be much better than someone 5 years ago. Take a look at Robbie Findley, a guy who isn’t that good and has relied on his speed to make an impact. He started to find that it was difficult to find the field at RSL, which is a sign that players like him are starting to not make it in this country. I remember hearing that Clint Dempsey made his youth club team based alone on the fact that he could juggle. The standard today has definitely exceeded that. So no, I’m not concerned.

  73. gabe says:

    you’re right. I’m going to shell some of this, but first I’ll agree with you on some points.

    CB: Goodson and Bocanegra should start
    RB: Cherundolo is the starter
    LB: I’m going to be nice here and tentatively agree, although BB will certainly start JB.

    How can you champion for Freddy Adu to start? I don’t hate the guy, and he’s certainly done work in order to even get called in, but to give him a start over Jones or Edu is madness. This alone makes this post shell-worthy.

  74. RSLin208 says:

    Here’s what I want to see v Canada:

    ————-Timmy————–
    Dolo—Goodsen-Bocanegra–Lichaj
    ——–Jones—-Bradley——–
    –Donovan————-Kljestan–
    ————Dempsey————-
    ———-Wondolowski———–

  75. ThaDeuce says:

    Premature e- troll-ation

  76. ThaDeuce says:

    Either that or a mexi-nadian

  77. Francois says:

    I’d much rather see Bedoya over Sascha at this point, especially out-wide. Sascha just gave the ball away too many times against Spain for my taste.

  78. ThaDeuce says:

    Boom-shaka-laka-laka

  79. ThaDeuce says:

    Boom!

  80. martha says:

    Weve been doing good in the youth levels for years….but it hasnt translated to the youth side. Sizzo, Renken, Jerome, Barrett, Farfans, Sarkodie, Gil,Mcinerney, are names weve heard of as being stars for their respective teams and they may be fine MLS ers or Pros…but a 19 we new Landon was special, and Barrerra, Chicharito, Dos Santos Brothers, Vela, Guardado are all under 24 and are pretty solid where as Altidore and Adu are not busts yet, they are getting there. I dont blame Holden as I dont blame JOB same with Davies. That doesnt diminsh the fact that injuries may dampen their careers. Can break your leg twice and not lose anything? Chandler is probably going to jump ship or why else would he not play and get cap tied? As far as the domestic league id argue its watered down. Burnburry excites me and MAYBE Anguduelo but thats it.For beng around as long as it has it should have produced more NAT talent.Even the overseas up and comers like Marcus Tracy, LLeget, and Lichaj have fizzled. My point is there andy SPECIAL talents out there ie Landon Or Demspey to take us past the next cycle or are the days of Dos a Cero gone for good?

  81. FulhamPete says:

    I would say there are FEW midfields in the world as strong as:

    LD—MB90—Stu—Deuce

    With Jones, Edu, Spector, Chandler on the bench.

    England? Nope. I’ll take our guys over whoever they can trot out in MF.

    Spain, Argentina, Brazil…MAYBE Germany, Dutch. Help me out here, guys…

  82. Vince says:

    No it wasn’t. There were missing their captain from Blackburn for one, and that Tommy Smyth guy for two — that’s their two best players.

    When NZ’s players form MLS get called in, it’s not a full first-team squad. That’s what I’m talking about.

    Just because you put your name as “kiwi” doesn’t mean you have any idea what you’re talking about.

  83. abc says:

    Hey, don’t “throw him under the bus” just because he’s “taking it one game at a time”!

  84. abc says:

    OMG do you even know how old Charles Renken is??

  85. abc says:

    Starting Adu would be just fine if this was the Turkish second division.

  86. Paul says:

    Shame on me for looking forward to USA-Spain when the timing screamed out “meaningless scrimmage.” Three days before a tournament opener is no time for an actual game, even if it’s a friendly — that’s when you play an intrasquad scrimmage, or maybe a closed-door scrimmage against one of the other tournament teams. Whoever scheduled and/or agreed to the scheduling of this match should explain themselves. And if Bradley had the game forced on him by the business guys, good for him for treating it like the scrimmage it should have been.

  87. Annelid Gustator says:

    That’s a top 16 midfield: shame we can’t seem to put it together.

  88. scooter says:

    As a Canadian I’m an outsider to this debate, but I think your all crazy if you don’t think the US is getting better and better at developing young soccer talent.

    Not every prospect pans out and some kids develop later. So Adu seems to have flamed out, but then a guys like Edu comes through the NCAA and MLS and achieves a higher standard in his early 20’s.

    American soccer is in the midst of a transition away from youth clubs and NCCA player developmemt toward the global model of pro club academies. American development infrastructure is not at mature as the mexican club system, so this generation of american proscpect layers aren’t as ‘ready’ to play at 18-20 years old as their mexicna counterparts. But the progress of MLS academies is obvious and future generations of players.

    As US supporters you have to be optimistic about the future. At the the international level I can’t think of another country that has made has much progress as the US in the last decade. Your future is so bright, your domestic league has gotten significnatly better, and youth development will be boosted by MLS academies.

  89. scooter says:

    As for the current USMT. I can’t figure out why BB doesn’t move to a 4-3-3 or a 4-2-3-1. Donvoan and Dempsey make the attack for the US, and both going to be >30 years old at the next world cup. They are deadly wide attackers, why waste their legs with defensive burden in a 4-4-2? Especially with all the talent in the US system at DM and the wide FB positions (there is really lots of FB talent, despite the fact individuals are maybe lacking for form right now).

  90. Dennis says:

    Bizzy, Nice to see you have finally seen the light. MB was probably the #1 reason (aside from Howard) that Messi was frustrated against the USA.
    It is certainly true that MB is not a skillful dribbler, and he has had a pass go awry, but most of the time, he is in the right place to make a tackle, or intercept a pass, then finds himself in spot that is almost guaranteed to be difficult. Saturday he connected on most of those passes out of difficult spots. I am looking forward to a pairing of MB and Holden in the US midfield. Both are young enough that they could hold sway there for several years.
    I agree with you that Spector does not seem to have the mentality to be a back (also the #1 reason Bornstein has problems there). Gooch has never been good at passing the ball, his biggest asset is his physicality, The USA should be able to do better going forward, Ream will play a role, all the others are getting a bit old for the demands of international soccer.

  91. Dennis says:

    I wonder if Bob Bradley did not have a plan to use the players he plans to start vs Canada for only 1/2 vs Spain (except Howard). That argues that the starting lineup will not include Aguedelo, Sasha, Ream, Spector so it could be
    Wondo Altidore
    Dempsey Bradley (Edu or Jones) Donovan
    Boca Goodson Onweyu Cherundolo
    Howard

  92. Dennis says:

    I left Lichaj off the list that would not start either under this scenario.

  93. PPH Services says:

    I think we will do fine against Canada!