Should Bradley stay or should he go?

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Just days after the U.S. men's national team's Gold Cup Final loss to Mexico, there is tangible unhappiness in some American fan circles about head coach Bob Bradley and whether he should stay on as head coach.

Bradley did guide the United States to the Gold Cup Final, but fell short in the quest to lift the trophy. That loss has put Bradley squarely on the hot seat, at least as far as some U.S. fans are concerned.

While U.S. Soccer president Sunil Gulati hasn't addressed Bradley's future yet, it seems unlikely a change will be made one year into Bradley's new four-year contract, not for falling short in the Gold Cup Final.

Here is the question for U.S. national team fans. What do you think should happen with Bradley? Think he's doing a good job and should stay on, or think he's been terrible and must be replaced immediately?

Cast your vote here:

How did you vote, and why? Do you think Bradley should stay in charge, or should a change be made?

Share your thoughts below (and please keep comments brief. Any absurdly long comments will be removed).

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347 Responses to Should Bradley stay or should he go?

  1. Dave says:

    I think he’s done well overall (or “mediocre”, as I voted), I just like the idea of new coach/new blood at the beginning of a World Cup cycle.

  2. Twhitles says:

    STAY.

  3. scott says:

    i feel like you are missing an option: Yes, its time for a change

  4. Pope Eddie says:

    Pandora’s box now open. I guess it just depends on who is the replacement? But I think Bob has probably taken them as far as he can. Rumor has it that the locker room agrees.

  5. Murph says:

    I don’t like these choices. I choose “Yes. He’s done a good job and (using all his knowledge and skill) brought the team (generally a winner) as far as he could. It’s time for a new coach to take the team to the next level.”

    I would then wish him well on his next head coaching gig in MLS.

  6. Ryan says:

    I don’t think Gulati fires him yet. I also don’t want to see him for another WC cycle, but it would make even less sense to make a change just before the next WC. Honestly, I think Bradley stats through the next WC, then Gulati has an excuse to make a change. Rather than “firing him”, he can use the excuse of stagnation to let him go.

    I can only hope Gulati is gone by then too…

  7. Ryan says:

    *stays

  8. David says:

    A coaching strategy cannot be “play hard” and that seems to be all he advocates. Of the actual tactical decisions he has made (formations, starting Clark in WC, Bornstein in GC, etc), majority have had a negative effect over positive.

  9. Smits says:

    Only fire him if you can absolutely get someone better.

  10. ChrisTheLSUTiger says:

    He consistently makes the same errors in squad selection. I want to say keep him, but I just cant…

  11. Jeremy says:

    I do like BB but I think that he has taken this team as far as he can take them and there needs to be a change.

  12. buff111 says:

    Most US soccer fans appreciate the job he’s done, but this team is in a rut and seems to be stale. It’s time for someone with some new ideas regarding tactics and personnel to have a shot. He’s done well, just look at his record, but it’s time to turn over the reins to someone else.

  13. JonnyP says:

    Voted: “Yes. He’s been mediocre and a new coach could be better.”

    Reason: The US needs to take the next step. No longer should US soccer be happy to make the World Cup, or even to just advance out of their bracket. It’s time to start making strides in international events, and that needs to start with winning tournaments that put your team into the Confederations Cup.

  14. jonk says:

    I like BB and have never been one to call for his head, but I would like to see someone else at the helm…if only there was a really good candidate.

  15. Citronomics says:

    I think it’s time for a new coach. USMNT has achieved meaningful results under BB, but I feel our team play has regressed demonstrably since the WC and when we play poorly, we don’t seem to take a professional approach (e.g., playing Zone D backing off opposing players rather than marking them). I understand we have a certain style (gritty and counterattacking) that *when* we execute well gives us a shot, but don’t see this approach carrying us forward positively.

  16. wes johnson says:

    We are at a point where the players are at a level beyond any of our american coaches. Starting with the Confederations cup, the players have pulled together just enough to save Bradley’s job. We are well passed the point of neccessary change, a couple of wins have cloaked the current state of soccer in our country. TIME FOR CHANGE!

  17. dave says:

    He’s taken the team as far as he can – time for a change. The truth is in the middle – he’s not as bad as his haters would make you believe, but he really isn’t all that good either.

  18. B says:

    Squad selection is his biggest issue for each of the tournaments. Needs to go so that someone new can evaluate players.

    A lot changes in four years and he seems only willing to make a change after a disaster performance from someone that everyone else realizes isn’t a fit at the present time.

  19. Ryan says:

    I saw this the other day, but I’m not sure how credible the source was.

  20. winston says:

    e. He’s done a good job and had a good(great at times) run, but it’s time for a change.

    I actually like bob and the direction he put the team in. I think the competition level gets lost in some of the results. But when you become the constant story it’s time to go.

  21. PTS says:

    What has Bradley ever done that would even have USSF consider keeping him around?

    2007 Gold Cup? That’s it. They were VERY lucky in the Confederations Cup. It took a miracle to get into the Spain game. That was a big win but there have been far too many losses over the past four years.

    And if you ask me, they severely underperformed at the World Cup. A good manager and that teams makes the semis with the easy matchups they got.

    Add into that another blown 2-0 lead in the finals of a major tournament. It’s time to move on.

  22. Buz says:

    Gulati won’t can him just a year after giving him a 4-year deal. Even though US soccer clearly needs a change there, Gulati should have seen it after the last WC. Due to that bad decision (and a lack of great (and realistic) candidates on the market, although Marcelo Bielsa would be nice) we are probably stuck with BB until 2014.

  23. Tony in Quakeland says:

    That’s the option that should be in the voting

  24. MJ says:

    Keep Bradley – get rid of Gulati

  25. rambo says:

    I dont think he has done bad, but I think someone else can come in and do a better job with this pool of players.

  26. ssartor says:

    The team has looked disinterested since the WC and their performance overall at the Gold Cup was woeful. Time to shake things up and bring in some new blood and new ideas. Given how the team has looked, and the emergence of Jamaica and Panama, we may struggle to qualify for 2014. Better to get rid of Bob now than wait until 2013. Unfortunately, I don’t think Sunil gets the plot…

  27. Kevin says:

    i agree i feel like the 2010 cycle he did well but i fell post south africa has been a near diaster i feel will only get worse as we march towards brazil in 2014 and a change at the top should shake things up enough to prevent that (we dont want a repeat of 2006)

  28. kimo says:

    No coach should coach beyond the 4 year World Cup Soccer. It’s that simple.

    As far as Gullati firing him…LOL…no chance. Gullati doesn’t call the shots. He’s simply the USSF figure head.

  29. Jeff says:

    It’s time for new leadership, especially if the rumors are true that he has lost the support of the team. If we were any other country in the world, and we suffered such a lose (Gold Cup) the coach would have resigned. Bob should do just that.

  30. Jonathan says:

    If the rumors are true that he has lost the locker room, it will be hard not to fire him. But who are you going to hire? Don’t know that there are many better candidates out there that would be a good fit for the USMNT.

  31. Scarlet says:

    I selected option 2 because even though the team may not have looked good doing so – they did accomplish what reasonable expectations would indicate. That said, I do have an uneasy feeling about the US going forward. I’m starting to wonder if the boys will be able to shake the negativity of their recent performances and the utter meltdown of so many fans. (I truly hope that none of them are exposed to the mean spirited posts that I’ve read). The catalyst for that change could very well come from a new coach. However, since I can’t offer the name of a suitable and available replacement; I had to vote to keep BB and keep faith that our team will be able to put up the effort required to improve.

  32. Dave says:

    If he stays he will just squander what respect he has left from the players and the fans. Time to go, Coach. It’s been a good run, but we all just need to move on.

  33. Mhat says:

    I don’t think Bradley has done a bad job, and I like the guy. Obviously getting to the GC finals and going up 2-0 is not the worst thing that could happen. The problem is that by settling with Bradley, I believe we are resigning ourselves to the mediocre. Yea we will do well against the small fish but as soon as we play a heavy hitter, it seems like we are out of our element. He has posted other good results though to be fair, beating Spain en route to the Confed Cup final, first in group stage at last WC.

    I agree with others that are saying that Bradley should only be replaced if we know there is a better option available, such as Guus Hiddink (someone that Ives pointed out).

  34. Klaus says:

    Bob Bradley came into the program as a “defensive mastermind”, yet this aspect of the NMT game has had glaring deficiency. Defensive breakdowns and lapses have been numerous and cost the team goals and games. Bradley’s substitute patters are sometimes baffling and he tends to leave players that aren’t having good games in the contests too long (like Clark and his son in the 2010 WC loss to Ghana).

    It simply seems as though we are being out-coached in every game.

  35. Aaron in StL says:

    Agree 100%. I think it’s more on the players than coaching

  36. Will says:

    Don’t turn into Steve Sampson. Look what happened to him. Leave before it’s too late, Bob!

  37. Stephen says:

    Ahhh, the grass is greener syndrome. Bottom line is Bradley has done a better job than his predecessor. I’m not for firing somebody just because a bunch of people don’t like him. I’ve had issues with decisions Bradley has made, but I probably would have those with any coach.

    Unless the USSF can get a guy like Hidduk to commit to this cycle and the next, I say we keep Bradley and let him run his course.

  38. Don Pelayo says:

    While I do think that many USMNT fans have way too high expectations for our squad and that Bradley has done a respectable job, I also think it’s time for change and thus a new manger.

    That being said, I expect Bradley to retain his position, which will not make me lose too much sleep (unless he insists on building our 2014 qualifying squad around superstar Bornstein).

  39. Alex says:

    Ives, you didn’t post the caveat you said you would in the chat from yesterday!!!

    It was basically the point that, for all the talk about the need for a new coach and what tactics can change, yadda yadda, the player pool just isn’t there yet for a coach to make that much of a difference. Our best field player plays for either a mid-table EPL club or an MLS team. We don’t have world-class talent, and don’t project your unrealistic expectations for our national team onto the coach. It’s YOU who has the problem and can’t realize that we aren’t there yet, not the coach’s fault.

    I don’t have the answer, but all I know is, second-term coaches get stale, and maybe now is the time just to have fresh eyes and a fresh perspective on our pool, especially the graduating U-20s. The U-20s, the future of our team, are predominantly Euro-based, as is the core of our 2014 team, so maybe time to get a Euro perspective in.

  40. JD says:

    I’m surprised that no one is recognizing the fact that the player pool is mediocre at best. There’s talent there, yes, but after our starters there’s youth and inexperience. this won’t change with a new coach.

    i’m also not a huge fan of bradley’s defensive style. then again, if he opened things up, we might be winning games like those against Jamaica/Panama by 3-2 margins, while losing games like the GC final 6-2. same results, different scoreline. i suppose it would at least be more attractive to watch.

  41. dhawk says:

    Well said. I am in complete agreement with everything you posted.

  42. BenH says:

    I think Bradley was decent on his first four year run. Historically, however, 8 years has not worked, world-wide.

    Team looks stale and too comfortable with their spots. 2 guys went to weddings, etc. Generally didn’t really step up their game until they had to. Need some new blood who will assess the players from scratch.

  43. Pope Eddie says:

    +1

  44. TGA says:

    We need a coach who will excite the players. I do not think that the Euro based players for example are excited when it is time to come home and train and play for Bradley and the MNT. A Hiddink or Klinsman would create that excitement.

  45. MC Pharaoh says:

    I voted Mediocre and that a new coach could be better, BUT the new manager imo has to be world class or its kind of all for nothing imo. The new manager has 3 years instead of 4 to learn this team, he is going to have to be special to sign at this point and make a difference.

  46. vinceN says:

    where did u see it at?

  47. Nick says:

    Stephen, Bradley really did better than Arena? I would beg to differ. 2 Gold Cups and World Cup quarterfinal appearance. Coaches shouldn’t stay for more than one cycle. You need to have a fresh approach because players will become complacent in their country situations. They know they’re going to play or at least be brought into the squad. Bob has made some ballsy decisions, but it’s time for him to go pursue other options. The goal for each Gold Cup if you’re Mexico or the United States should be to win and if you don’t succeed, then it’s time for you to go.

  48. Ben says:

    I’m very ambivalent about this. I think Bradley has done well, but I’m not an advocate for keeping a coach through two cycles. Still, since he is here now, what viable options are there out in the soccer world? I think Klinsmann is good critic and has some good ideas, but lacks some nous in the management department. I’m very interested to see what Bradley does with the back line, which was a huge problem for Arena in his second cycle. Boca, Dolo, and Onyweu will all be obsolete or nearly there by the next World Cup, so how do you make the transition on defense?

  49. Neruda says:

    Well said. Bradley should be applauded more greatly for the results he’s got from this team but it’s time for someone new to get a fresh look at things.

    Does any polling or ranting in chat forums even matter to Sunil Gulati? Fan reaction in a place like makes an impact in every other country except the US where this sport sits number three or four behind other sports pastimes.

  50. Pablo the USA diablo says:

    I think klinsmann needs to come on board in whatever role possible. And then in time whether it be 1 month, 1 year, 2 years, move him in as head coach. This way it allows Klinsmann time to get to know the team and vice versa, but it also gives Bradley time to find another job.

  51. Kevin says:

    we should get Gus Hiddink, or some other high profile high quality coach. No one within the US ranks can cut it.

  52. Tom says:

    I’m not sure how big his ego is but would it be bad to bring in a new head coach and have Brdley stay on as an assistant? I’m all for change but it’s not always better, even with a big name coach, especially if they don’t know USA soccer (see Mexico’s Sven Goran Eriksson experiment).

    So I say he stays, unless you can guarantee the next guy will be better at evaluating/finding/choaching talent and getting the most out of his players. Which you can’t.

  53. vinceN says:

    there’s plenty of great candidates…someone who has some flair…i think U-17 nationals coach Cabrera would do a better job than Bradley…

  54. biff says:

    The USMNT is severely demoralized–did not look happy at all through the Gold Cup and did not play well at all. A San Diego newspaper had a story yesterday saying that “Bradley has lost the locker room.” And he quotes a source close to the team saying, “The players are miserable.” It is time for a change, and quickly before we end up NOT qualifying for WC2014. Bob is a nice guy and he gave 100%. We can thank him for his dedication and hard work, but it is time for him to step down. We need a coach now who can be a unifier, someone tough but able to nurture younger players, someone the veterans can respect and who can judge talent and teach world-class tactics and inject much-needed excitement into the program. I’ve never been an ONLY-Klinnsmann advocate. There are several good potential options. But at this key moment, Klinnsmann is the one who can step in immediately without missing a beat and begin the healing process. Give him a 3-year contract to get the program pointed in the right direction. Let him bring in assistants from Europe, Latin America and even the MLS, someone like Jason Kreis as an assistant, maybe prepare him to take over after WC2014 just like Jogi Low was Klinnsmann’s assistant in WC2006. Klinnsmann is really a no-brainer. And, Juergen, if you are listening: Sometimes you gotta bend. Be flexible. Please take the job this time.

  55. Los Yanks says:

    Bob Bradley has done a great job getting us this far but ‘this far’ is no longer good enough. I will always respect him for the hardwork he has put in but like Obama said, the time for change is now. Let’s just hope a new coach brings the usmnt the change they need.

  56. AlexSWill says:

    What would a new coach do for this team? Is the argument that BB isn’t motivating enough? Is he lacking the technical abilities as a coach? If that’s the case, who does possess these skills?

    We can’t fault him for squad selection (with the possible exception of Bedoya in the Gold Cup)line up choices, or lacking of finishing, can we?

    If anything, when we needed something happen (a fact which BB CLEARLY understood) he put in Freddy Adu. While we all scoffed at this move, Adu sparked this team into action and put in probably the performance of his life. That wasn’t luck, that was a coach making a quality coaching decision despite us “armchair coaches.”

    The run hasn’t been great recently, but I can’t see another coach doing much better. I trust BB.

  57. Jeremy says:

    While our talent level is still somewhat limited, it is clear that our players aren’t even playing up to the levels they should be. Let’s be honest, Panama should never have happened. Neither should consistently coming out flat against big and small opponents. Bob has had his moments, and is a great guy, but his effective time is through. Bradley OUT!

  58. Broseph says:

    He should only be fired if an upgrade (Klinsmann, Hiddink, etc.) can be brought in. There’s no point in firing him if you’re going to replace him with another MLS coach.

  59. AlexSWill says:

    Who would you put in instead of Bornstein? Spector? MAYBE a better choice but just as slow.

  60. Goalscorer24 says:

    He is not a bad coach. I like that he took some chances with Adu, and having Donovan start on the bench during the Gold Cup. But I think a different coach (my vote would be Klinmsmann) could boost the team to another level, by perhaps finding a few different players to put into the mix, but more importantly by bringing new tactics to the team. Unfortunately I think this won’t have a chance of happening now until after 2014.

  61. jon says:

    If a new coach replaces Bradley, and the team is more succesfull, it will be because Stu Holden, CD9 and Timmy Chandler get healthy/committed. Not because the coach is any better that Bradley.

    Of course, it’s hard for Sunil to make players healthy/better, so we talk about the one meaningful thing he can do: fire the coach. The whole issue is a red herring.

  62. Carl says:

    It’s so patently obvious that we need a new coach to invigorate this team. Even Donovan, who is naturally inclined to prefer normalcy, recognizes as much.

    Klinsmann. Please. We need a new approach, a new mentality, a willingness to try new things.

  63. I like Bradley but I think he and the USMNT have hit a ceiling and have actually regressed a bit. The easiest thing to do to achieve short term happiness for the fans is a coaching change. To achieve long term success is for USSoccer and the USMNT program to get better at identifying and developing players. I dont think there is a quick fix and foreign coaches havent had ringing success in MLS so I dont have high hopes for that fix either.

  64. vinceN says:

    actually he didn’t do better than his predecessor…Arena took the team to a quarterfinal finish in 2002, and the game against Germany was there for the taking in 2002…a bounce here or there and the US would have been in the final four…

  65. supergrandefilms says:

    Agree. It’s extremely hard to be a coach of a national team. There needs to be a broader appreciation of his efforts. The idea of getting someone that has more experience is also valid… so I say Yes let’s get someone that can improve the program.

    I also think that the above choices could be written in a more tactful and respectful manner.

  66. AL17 says:

    I think he should stay. A few others stated earlier that we are not as talented as many would like to believe. I’d also like to point out the fact that more unheard of players have been found under him – Chandler immediately comes to mind and he’s had enough since to grant second chances to a few others (Adu??) when many wouldn’t have bothered look at the tapes.

    Bradley isn’t the issue in my opinion, a team with better talent is the issue and by the way the Mexico team that whipped us the another night would have done the same to a few Euro, African and South American teams, so don’t disrespect them by not acknowledging the fact that they are that good. In my opinion this is what it’s all about more so than Bob’s ability to coach which was proven when we beat Spain in the Confeds Cup and damn nearly beat Brasil in that final.

    I have a question for those screaming he’s gotta go.

    Who do you bring in that will take the job?

    Hiddink, Bielsa and a few other big names don’t want it.

  67. salgado says:

    Bradley should go NOW. At best, we are treading water; at worst we are regressing. I perceive the latter.

    Also, the 2010 World Cup was not an exciting “success”. It was a sadly missed opportunity–a once in a lifetime draw in which we were lucky to advance from the weakest group there. The Ghana game was a travesty–Bradley lost that game with his mindless starting lineup that included Findley and Clark.

    Sunil Gulati is not a stupid man. He has to see all of this. MARCELLO BIELSA

  68. Goalscorer24 says:

    Some of us did not scoff at including Adu, but have wanted his inclusion for quite sometime. As he is one of the few US players that is comfortable with the ball.

  69. Ben says:

    +1
    Couldn’t have said it better.

  70. Cereal Box says:

    I wouldn’t care if Roger Rabbit is coach as long as it isn’t Bob Bradley I’m fine. At this point every knows how we play were predictable, and we struggled to beat lesser teams with a squad i know greatly underperformed in this tournament, Bob has shown he doesn’t know how to use his players and only when we go down “first” does he decide he’s made the constant “mistake”.

  71. AL17 says:

    Kinda like how he’s consulted TFC? Cause they’re rocking the MLS right now.

    Rolls eyes at being tired of hearing about Klinsmann the great manager.

    FYI, I’m a Klinsmann fan but his coaching has been suspect ever since he bombed with Bayern and that was one of the world’s best clubs at the time.

  72. vinceN says:

    you probably scoffed at this move of putting in Adu…but many of my peers and I have been calling for Adu to get an opportunity to play…Bradley just needs to go simply on the fact that he gives his son automatic starts and he keeps calling Bornstein into camp…M Bradley is a good player, but he doesn’t deserve to be an automatic start…he should give Edu a few more looks…BoB has to GO

  73. Cereal Box says:

    Yet we were demolished by Italy and Brasil to start the tournament, Spain had an off game and if it wasn’t for Howard’s goalkeeping it would’ve been 4-2. We can get more out of the players we have, we just don’t have a coach who uses them correctly, seriously starting Bornstein over Spaector was just stupid besides everthing else…..

  74. vinceN says:

    who cares about Klinnsman…obviously they won’t give him that kind of control…I’ll be happy to take Bora back…fa sho…BOB…F OFF PLEASE

  75. Dennis B says:

    I’d contest the assertion that soccer is 3 or 4. More like 7 or 8. I was at the GC game in Detroit, and to be honest it was embarassing. More people went to the Lions games at Ford Field during the losing streak than to the USMNT game. Until there is sufficient financial incentive at home for US bred players, they will continue to take their talents to South Beach, etc. Football, baseball, basketball, hockey, Nascar, golf, and tennis all have stronger domestic followings than soccer. Bowling is probably close.

  76. Utahson says:

    Same coach, same results. If you want a different result…

  77. Cereal Box says:

    I saw one on Mlssoccer.com “kick off”.

  78. vinceN says:

    I honestly believe that being up 2-0 in a final, we should win…Mexico is good, so is Spain, but no team should come back if a great plan is put in place…he F’d up as soon as Bornstein was called into camp…

  79. BellusLudas says:

    I think we have reached the “Bradley Plateau.” This coach has brought this group of players as far as he/they can go. They have done well, but not well enough.

    This is America. We keep pushing until we are Champions. Bradley has been a great segue, but he is not the final answer.

    Time for sangre nueve!

  80. Matt says:

    I know I’m in the minority here but I think Bob has done a very good job. I think the majority of fans vastly overrate our players. We are not a top 30 team when you look at the individual talent, yet we have performed as top 30 team under Bob.

    Our team is second best in CONCACAF right now, we finish in second and everyone flips out. It’s an overreaction.

  81. Cereal Box says:

    I agree, I appreciate what he’s done, I feel our style has grown stale and predictable, why we need a change.

  82. Onoda says:

    I didn’t vote because I think there needs to be an option that says “Yes, but he’s been great in his tenure.”

    I also don’t think we should fire him and go with any old MLS coach. I think going with an ex-MLS coach would be a giant step backwards. I feel that growth can only come now from someone who has worked outside of our rigid system. We need a good foreign coach that’s proved his worth and can understand the American game. Jurgen would have been great… but I think we missed our chance with him.

  83. Stephen says:

    Well I might have put Edu at CB and slid Boca over.
    Or put Edu on the left he couldn’t have done much worse.
    Or put Spector on the right and left Lichaj in his spot.

  84. vinceN says:

    yupp yupp…these fools here don’t know nothing…they are all calling for Klinnsman because they thought we had a shot at him…Loew is the mastermind behind Klinnsman and obviously still is; considering the fact that Loew is basically on for a 3rd cycle with Germany…please just resign BOB…

    I’d take Bora back…remember that Bora didn’t do a bad job considering the fact that he was leading a USMNT roster of college players…

  85. Hush says:

    Bob has done a decent job in the MNT but it’s time for a change. His game planning and choice of players recently is mind buggling. I think what our MNT needs right now is a fresh look, a new way of lookings things into the future. I believe this a must if we want to see motivated players on our team.

    For those arguing over the mediocre players we have on our pool making BOB’s job difficult, please save the doodoo! Bob has plenty of players in the pool that can win the Gold Cup in Concacaf!!! We are talking about concacaf, not conembol!! “Mediocre players” if we were plating top flight teams, not mediocre Concacaf teams. Mexico is not an elite team, they are just as weak as we are. They are just going through a good moment right now. They will fall sooner or later, it’s in their DNA. So please stop this whole “Bob doesn’t have players to work with” crap. He has plenty of decent players to win a gold cup and beat a B-team Paraguay & Chile!!!! Pppssshhh… The man did a decent job in the past, but it’s time for a fresh start before W.C qualifying.

  86. Larth Gagerway says:

    If you’re going to fire someone, start with Sunil.

  87. Dennis B says:

    I think Bradley is not the problem…but rather a stagnation of talent. Donovan looked like he couldn’t be bothered to run during the entire GC, and though he did play some good balls, he made near zero effort off the ball. Timmy was also uncharacteristically off during the final. Perhaps these players need a notion that they are always playing for the starting spot rather than it being a given. Just getting a bunch of new players in or a new coach will not magically improve our style. Years of development and financial incentive will help the program though, and an improvement of the US club/college scene to develop some manner of coherence.

  88. Kurt-O says:

    I apologize if someone else said this, but I’m secretly reading SBI at work and so don’t have time to read through all of the comments… I think you are missing a choice in your survey, Ives. I think Bradley has been better than mediocre (perhaps not great, but certainly better than mediocre) but should go. When I watched this team against Mexico I had the feeling that the team (and perhaps the entire program) had grown stagnant and predictable. Watching, all I could think was that something needs to change, and since we can’t immediately change our players, I think we have to change the coach. Plus, if there is going to be a change it needs to be sooner rather than later.

  89. Graham Fox says:

    Yes, done well, but time for someone new.

  90. BellusLudas says:

    +1 on Bielsa. We need a strong leader who can help move us from a Euro style of play to more of a Latin leaning skillful style.

  91. Cereal Box says:

    Agreed, biff, this team struggled through the gold cup and ultimately lost to Panama and nearly lost to Guadeloupe to. The players looked sad and the truth is they don’t respect him anymore.

  92. vinceN says:

    ur an idiot…we have much more quality now than be did 10-12 years ago…guaranteed…

    problem is, BOB doesn’t know how to utilize that talent…I’m not saying the USMNT should be top 10…but with the players they have, they should easily be top 20 in the world…

  93. McQ says:

    I have not heard a reason to keep him other than “he is under contract”. That is a rediculous answer. Of course he is under contract. Very few coaches would ever work as a lame duck without a contract.

    Now is the opportune time to replace him. You need to get a coach in NOW so he can begin the player evaluation process(two international dates this year) and understand who he has to work with then give him a year to get the players comfortable playing his system in time for the heat of World Cup qualifying (and the next Gold Cup). Then he will have his team ready for the 2014.

    As for who is available? In addition to the names that have already been mentioned, how about Martin O’Neil? Carlo Ancelotti?

  94. Jeremar says:

    Two consecutive losses to Mexico in the Gold Cup final, by a 9-2 scoreline. #FireBobBradley.

    Critical question for the next coach: Tell us in detail how you plan to beat Ghana. Also, can you please get the USMNT to start competing before the second half?

  95. SB says:

    NY Times reported: “The question to Gulati on Tuesday was simple and straightforward: Will Bob Bradley remain coach of the U.S. national team?

    His answer (in an email response) was, “We’ll have something to say later this week.” U.S. Soccer officials later said that Gulati’s one sentence response was not intended to imply that he was planning to make a coaching change.”

    Why would Gulati write such an e-mail instead of just saying outright we are not making a coaching change and end the speculation immediately. Seems like he might be considering a change

    Let’s be honest, this is the perfect time. About a year before WC qualifying which gives time to scout players and get to know the system.

  96. vinceN says:

    agreed…just fire them both at once…

    to steal a bit from the N. Koreans…BoB…look for a thunderstorm and get struck by lightning…u might coach better or worse…who knows…lol

  97. RK says:

    You’re right. I just don’t see the players. We were lucky, before, when we could rely on our solid defense, but now that’s showing cracks. And we still haven’t developed a solid forward. I can’t blame Bradley for that.

  98. AL17 says:

    No way in HELL would I consider Bora.

    Damn nearly every team he managed was ultra defensive to the exten that even when he had good offensive threats, he used them sparingly.

    We’re past that in the national team’s development.

  99. Dave says:

    Unless a new coach would posses a time machine allowing him to go back 20 years and impregnate American women with soccer-superior genetic material, what’s the point?

    Time, youth development, and the sport’s growth is the only thing that will win the United Stats a World Cup. No amount of coaching with this player pool would get further than a quarterfinal.

  100. Darth Vader says:

    I feel he’s done a good job (overall). But it is past time for a change. The time for change was after the World Cup. BB has done an admirable job, but there is a stagnation in the team. They don’t have that spark that you saw in the last cycle.

    That being said, we don’t need change just for the sake of change, i.e. if they hire Ericsson, as I’ve seen mentioned as a possible replacement, I’m not watching USMNT anymore. The team needs a change, but only if it is a top-quality manager.

  101. Kyle L says:

    its not that Bob has been completely terrible, its just some of the key decisions that he has made that has him on the hot seat.

  102. AL17 says:

    AMEN!!!!

    He should be GONE not Bob

  103. Klinsi says:

    I appreciate what Bob’s done, but there is something to be said for a new voice. It’s a good time for a start-over… new coach with a fresh approach, and open up competition for all the positions again. Clean slate.

    Bob wasn’t mediocre, but he was close to being so. If Egypt and Italy hadn’t been napping on the same day in the Confed Cup, we never would have advanced. If not for the last two minutes against Algeria, we would have been winless in one of the easier groups of the World Cup. That would have been mediocre, and we weren’t far from it.

    Time to finally try Hiddink and see what he can do. I can’t imagine he’ll do worse, and we owe it to ourselves to see if there’s a distinguishable difference between the results American and foreign coaches can achieve.

  104. Javifuego says:

    I agree with the earlier comments in regards to Marcelo Bielsa – I think he would be a great choice.

  105. Cereal Box says:

    He’d better be or this team will rapidly lose support if they continue to blow games like they have, money talks to greedy men like Gulati, a replacement is to be the announcement tomorrow.

  106. Max says:

    Bradly must go because he fails to send out a team that is ready to play. Early goals against (and early defensive lapses resulting in goal scoring opportunities) have been the overarching theme of BB’s USMNT career. The problem also surfaces starting the second half and I think we all still remember how we started the second half of extra time vs Ghana. This is a coaching failure.

    Also, he has shown poor judgement in continuing to use players that have proven incapable at the international level. Bruce Arena had the same problem. In 2006 he insisted on playing the awful, slow, shell of his former self Paolo Mastroeni. Don’t even get me started on Agoos in 2002. This is also a coaching failure.

  107. RK says:

    Sure, rent him for a year…

  108. chris says:

    Yes but gulati needs to go as well, time for a revamp of us soccer.

    BB to chicago would be nice

  109. Cereal Box says:

    Agreed man, on many occasions we were on the brink of full scale collapse in the tournaments we’ve played in the last 3 years, its time to se what we can achieve with a “clean slate”

  110. Tom says:

    Agreed, he’s done well overall during his tenure. I just think it’s time to freshen things up a bit. Rattle the cage at the beginning of the cycle. Every coach has a shelf life in an organization, and Bradley’s reached the end of his.

  111. Polish Wonder says:

    Have to agree. The choices are limited. The best coaches want a lot of money to coach a team that is far from a WC favorite.

  112. Felix says:

    I voted yes. First off, let me say that I never have been nor am I now – a Bradley-hater. I do think people tend to put unrealistic expectations on the USMNT and what they are capable of. However, I think it was a mistake to re-hire him for the second cycle because 2-cycle coaches tend to not do well. The swirl of negativity around this manager cannot be healthy, and a shake-up in the squad and staff can be cathartic.

    Again, I do think some of the criticism he has received has been unfair. But I think its fairly obvious that something needs to change in this USMNT side, and that fresh ideas on player selection, formation, tactics, etc are needed.

  113. Chris says:

    this is not “just before” a WC cycle, Gulati has plenty of time to make a change and he has the “reason” if he needs one (really who does he answer to in your idea of him needing a reason) because Bradley just lost in the final of the regional competition, has lost 2 finals after going up 2-0, and has shown a pattern of conceding early throughout his history (a sign of lack of preparation or idea of how to take it to a team). We only seem to get into the game when we’re down because we’re backs are against the wall and we need a spark, it’s the coaches job to get his team prepared and no exactly how to go take it to a team, especially an inferior team, instead of waiting to have your hand forced.

  114. Harvey says:

    Cannot believe the US Fed is still silent on this. 8 years is way too long. Need new ideas!

  115. AC says:

    Ives, Bradley has been above mediocre but he has hit his ceiling. In other words, he did well, but they will probably not do any better under him. The team has a whole looked predictable and complacent at times. The mentality of the team was lacking too many times. I give props to Bradley for doing an admirable job and finding new players, but he definitely has peaked and can improve no further.

  116. Polish Wonder says:

    Edu would have been toasted as a CB in that game. I could have seen him coming in as part of a bunker defense to track runners from midfield that our CBs had trouble containing. Spector at RB was the best choice.

  117. typo says:

    *know exactly how

  118. Ric says:

    DNA?… dangerously playing with racism… and definetly, the match last weekend shown that Mexican team is not as weak as US team.

  119. kingsnake says:

    The way the Gold Cup groups are stacked, a moron could guide the USA to the final …

  120. Felix says:

    I agree, if you don’t do it now – it would be pointless and probably counter-productive to do it later. There’s more than a year before WCQ starts for the US, which would give a prospective new coach plenty of time to scout, prepare players and have camps to implement a new system.

  121. Cereal Box says:

    Every soccer site i’ve been to has been riding Bradley for the whole month, now it’s hit a tipping point because right now more people in the American republic are against this team than for it.

  122. Chris says:

    so give him the money, what do you care? we definitely have it if that’s what you’re asking.

  123. Max says:

    Bradley will stay as coach because he allows US Soccer to influence his squad selection. US Soccer doesn’t want international call ups to negatively impact MLS teams. This is the reason Klinsmann refused to accept the job (both times). If you remember, we were in both the Gold Cup and Copa America four years ago and Gulati didn’t want players leaving MLS teams for what would have been two months. No respectable national team coach (Bielsa, Hiddink, Klinsmann) will agree to such conditions and we will not have a respectable national team coach unless he has complete control.

  124. B.Stef says:

    Let us not forget Bradley obtained this job after Arena was fired, in which he was the interum head choach. So he had some good wins, and got the job, and US stopped looking.

    He has been up and down, but new blood is over due.

  125. OfcRob218 says:

    I voted that Bradley has been medicore and should be replaced. I’ve never been overly impressed with Bradley, but I respected him for what he has done for the team. I truly think he has taken the team as far as he can. Far too often the team is playing from behind and any success the team has had comes from the players heart and desire. The team suceeds in spite of Bradley! I thought after the 2010 world cup it would only be natural to bring in a new coach and perspective. Part of the issue was that Gulati seriously only interviewed two people for the position. Bradley and Klinsmann. How is that doing due diligence? How can you call that a competitive process! If there was a time to replace Bradley it would be now before qualifying begins. No other federation is afraid to make changes during the middle of world cup cycles. Why should the USA be any different? If he’s not cutting it and really has lost the locker room then yes it’s time for Bradley to go.

    And if Bradley goes….Gulati has to go as well!

  126. SB says:

    +1 – I’m not a Bradley hater, but we can’t forget that we didn’t play ourselves into the next round of the Confed Cup or the World Cup. We had to rely an extremely late goal to move to the next round in the WC and a 3 goal differential in the Confed Cup. Not saying other coaches wouldn’t have us in that position, but it’s clear that but for a couple moments of brilliance and a great game here or there, the USMNT has peaked under Bradley.

    For goodness sake, Donovan even said after the Gold Cup that a change in coaching is “none of his business.” He could have easily said Bob is doing great and we just needed to do better.

  127. Stephen says:

    I disagree. The US talent pool is better than ever. Dempsey and Donovan would be/are considered very good forwards in any European league. The US has truly creative midfielders in its ranks for the first time perhaps ever (Adu, Feilhaber). The US has, for the first time, a crop of dynamic and fast young strikers (Aguedelo, Bunbury, Altidore).

    When the US team does well, it seems to be when their most talented players rise above the game situation and make plays.

    I rarely see the US play well tactically. That’s the job of the coach. What is Bradley’s tactical approach? I don’t know what his coaching philosophy is, or if he even has one.

    His handling of the defense and defensive mid positions has been awful. I know we don’t have a lot of great US defenders in the squad, but he rarely puts the best unit out there.

  128. tigason232@gmail.com says:

    it is hard for me to say mediocre considering what he has done so far. but i think it is time for someone else to step up and lead in another direction. I cannot see Bradley matching Mexico in any way possible. Do you?

  129. Mike Caramba says:

    I understand why some people want Bradley out. I understand why others think he’s doing a fine job. But I don’t understand how either could arrive at that conclusion based on the Gold Cup performance. Overall (accounting for the good (Jamaica) and the bad (Panama #1), it seems we played right about at the level of reasonable expectation — no better, no worse. Anyone who thinks a 4-2 loss to Mexico in the final was a gross underperformance on his part clearly underestimated Mexico’s talent and overestimated our own.

  130. Joamiq says:

    The issue for me is not who he should have put in instead, but rather why he didn’t take Bornstein out at halftime. I voted for him to stay because I’m skeptical that we’d find a better replacement, but that was a definite mistake.

  131. Brent McD says:

    I finally watched the Gold Cup Final again last night, and I’ve changed my thoughts a bit. Watching in person at the Rose Bowl, I had the impression that we were getting overrun by Mexico. Seeing the replay, the US had plenty of chances and were unlucky not to get another goal or two. The game could have easily gone to extra time tied 3-3 or 4-4.

    Obviously losing Cherundolo was a huge blow. Along with everyone else, I’ve been critical of Bornstein, but I can understand the thinking — we needed more pace in the backline, something Spector could not provide. And Bornstein had spent the last year at Tigres, so he was not likely to get overwhelmed. Needless to say, things didn’t work out.

    The main problem Coach Bradley has is the depth of the talent pool, or lack thereof. Our lack of pace in the back was brutally exposed by Mexico. Our dearth of strikers has been a well-known fact ever since Davies nearly died in DC. Having said that, Bob Bradley’s team selection and substitions have been highly questionable at times. As for team development at the youth level, I don’t know if you can blame Bradley for that. One of the reasons Klinsmann was not hired was because he demanded more control of player development. If so, then much of the blame goes to US Soccer (Gulati).

  132. AC says:

    Gulati is an economics man which means he forgets to see how they got to certain levels. He forgets to see that the USA caught a break in the group stages of the Confederations Cup as they were beat down by Italy and Brazil before. The Donovan goal against Algeria saved them (IN THE LAST MINUTES) as they gave up quick leads to Slovenia and England (USA helped by Green). Economics people only take “safe” roads usually and don’t like to shake things up. He’ll probably do the regular “he see’s NO REASON at all to get a coach.”

  133. Joamiq says:

    No, that starts with having better players than we currently have.

  134. Joamiq says:

    Well then it’s a good thing no one asks you. Ghana was a better team than the US.

  135. Carlo Ancelloti says:

    What about me?

  136. Felix says:

    Spector would have been smoked by Guardado. Any move that Bradley had in his bag to cover for ‘Dolo’s injury was flawed. Bornstein just has been an easy target for years.

    I firmly believe we lost that game because of Cherundolo’s injury and that at the moment, Mexico is better. That’s it.

  137. Joamiq says:

    A search of Google returns 0 instances of anyone ever calling Bob Bradley a “defensive mastermind”. Straw man.

  138. Mike Caramba says:

    The replacement is the key issue for me. If I could be assured he’d have a suitable replacement, I’d be on board. If it’d be the next-in-line MLS-er (Dom?) or a lame European hire (Ruud Gullit is my nightmare), I’d rather just keep Bradley.

  139. JoeW says:

    I’m not a BB hater. But I voted for him to go. We were very unimpressive this GC and actually all year. So that’s a factor–not a firing offense but one that you can’t answer by saying “well, we were missing 3 key players” or “our GK had a bad tournament”. It’s been a year of relatively unimpressive play. I don’t expect us to play even with Spain or Argentina but against other sides we haven’t impressed.

    Additionally, people will always criticize personnel decisions. Heck, Loew gets critized for his personnel choices.

    But this was a tournament that supposedly we were interested in winning and competing (ie: the focus was not on trying out new players or developing youngsters). And so we end up putting a bunch of guys on the roster (Gooch, Agudelo, Rogers, Bernstein, etc.) who either aren’t playing with their clubs and/or aren’t in good form. You put those guys on your roster ONLY if you want to build up their game or see how they’re doing. Heck, even though the Adu decision worked out, if you’re seeking to compete and not develop youngsters, why do you pick Adu?

    In short, we had a side that was very incoherently put together with probably the best explanation being that a bunch of guys (Kljestan, Bornstein, Gooch, etc.) were picked b/c BB trusts them….not b/c they were the only options or they were in good form). At this point you should not have a roster where you have a couple of players who are healthy but have no chance of getting off the bench (Wondolowski and Rogers) if you were really picking to be competitive. Speculative picks….Wondo makes sense. But to compete now…it’s a dumb choice (as is Rogers…it’s like picking Findlay).

    Additionally, going into this cycle it was clear we’d be transitioning defensively. Cherundolo was aging, DeMerit was aging, Gooch was aging and hadn’t recovered from his knee injury plus wasn’t getting PT, Bocanegra was aging. At this point, based on play since the 2010 WC, what new players in this cycle would you say have shown in INTERNATIONAL play (not club play) that there’s serious contenders for NT spots in the next cycle? Lichaj (based on TWO games). Chandler (based on TWO games–and that mostly on speed and attacking. Everyone else in consideration (Goodson, Bocanegra, Cherundolo, etc.) is a returnee. Or we operating on the basis of their club performance (Ream, etc.). Even though BB has played a lot of new players this cycle, I feel like defensively we’re nowhere in terms of talent for the next cycle–that he’s too willing to fall back on Gooch, Bocanegra, Cherundolo. And as exciting as Chandler was, we don’t know how he’ll do defensively. So I feel like one of the areas we knew had the biggest turnover is an area that he’s demonstrated poor handling of.

    Yeah we got handled by Mexico but they’re a talented team who has come together. I think the play of our side in the matches BEFORE the final is the real indictment of BB.

  140. Brant says:

    That is the perfect point, he hasent done a bad job, in fact he has done a very good job, its just time for someone new, perfeably not someone from this country, we need someone from outside the american comfort zone

  141. roysterer says:

    Bob Bradley has been great at bringing new talent into the USMNT pool. The trouble is that he doesn’t know when to stop. There is no ‘A’ team because Bradley won’t decide on one.

    And swapping around forwards is one thing, but when you change the defense in every game you’re just asking for trouble.

  142. Joamiq says:

    This is exactly what Ives is talking about.

    1) If Dempsey and Donovan were as good as you think, they’d be on big European clubs.

    2) If Adu and Feilhaber were as good as you think, they wouldn’t be playing in the second division of leagues that aren’t even elite at the first division.

    3) The fact that you don’t know what Bradley’s tactics are says much more about you than it does about him. Bradley is actually very good tactically. It’s other areas like personnel and preparation where he may be behind the curve.

    Bottom line, our player pool is not very good. We’ve punched above our weight for years, and now our fans have an inflated sense of our talent level.

  143. Colin says:

    I think the USSF should seriously look at establishing a policy where national team coaches are only around for 5-6 years, no exceptions.

    That allows for a full WC cycle, plus 2-3 Gold Cups. Long enough to gather your players and instill your philosophy, but not too long where you become stagnant right before the next WC.

    That’s not a knock on BB, either. I think he’s done incredibly well for what he’s had. 8 years is just too long to be in the same position, especially at a national team.

  144. mouf says:

    He has done well, but we need to take another step/go to the next stage

  145. jpc says:

    - Won the 2007 Gold Cup
    - 2nd at Confed’s Cup
    - Made 2009 Gold Cup Final w/ C team
    - Won WC Qualifying
    - Won WC Group Stage for the 1st time ever
    - Made 2011 Gold Cup Final, lost to best Mexican team in 25 years

    That’s worthy of being fired? Really?

    Bradley has been successful not only in wins/losses, but also changing the US style of play. Go back and watch the 2002 & 2006 WC games, and compare w/ the 2010 games. There is NO comparison, we play a much more attractive style under Bradley then we ever have. Do we bunker down against better teams and play the counter attack? YES, b/c we should, b/c it’s the correct tactic. He’s integrating new players, and taking risks on players (Adu,Agudelo) that other coaches wouldn’t, and much of the time they’ve paid off. His players like him, other coaches respect him (Alex Ferdinand, and all the coaches that mimicked our game plan against Spain).

    The only reason I could see to justify his firing up to this point is simply that coaches historically don’t succeed for 2 WC cycles, for whatever reason. Personally, I think it’s b/c they become married to the guys from the previous cycle, and competition doesn’t exist like it should. That remains to be seen from Bradley. But he has been a coach that tries to integrate as many people as possible into the program, and I think the past gold cup kept up that tradition. Putting Donovan on the bench is something not alot of coaches would have done to a player that means as much as Donovan does to the team.

  146. Reality says:

    our best striker is Abby wambach. The hell do we expect?

  147. Timber Dan says:

    He should go.

    He should have gone after SA 2010.

  148. Cereal Box says:

    Which was piss poor. I don’t hate Bob, but… change is obviously necessary, alot of people made good points some pertaining to our player pool,tactics,leadership(Gulati), and overall selections and game managment. The best players we have on our team are aging Donovan, Dempsey, Howard, Cherundolo, and who’s going to replace those guys “if” we make the 2014 World Cup in Brazil, he has relied on the same old dogs for too long and resist at all cost benching his son even if he kills our midfield at times with bad passes or giveaways. We just need change plain and simple.

  149. away goals says:

    Didn’t bradley just embrace new tactics and personnel? At least to some degree?

    Agudelo, bedoya, lichaj, jones, ream, chandler (called up), adu (resurrected). So six new guys complemented our veterans (donovan, dempsey, dolo, boca, howard) and future (mb, altidore). Are there fans who wanted to see 23 players earn their first caps in a meaningful gold cup?

    And before all the “but he keeps using bornstein” shouting begins, remember he ran two different backlines in an attempt to keep bornstein off the field. Both with a considerable element of risk.

    That said I won’t be disappointed if we make a change. Hard to imagine ussf selecting somebody who would be a complete disaster.

  150. fifawitz1313 says:

    I appreciate the job Bob has done and think he did a good job with the players at his disposal. However, we are in a new cycle and many of our players are getting old. As we have learned, Bob tends to call on guys he is familiar with. I think he will struggle to have an unbiased judgement of talent when evaluating new/unfamiliar up-and-coming talent compared to the guys he has become comfortable with. A new unbiased coach is needed to sort out the talent during this transitional period in US Soccer.

  151. HoboMike says:

    Ives is obviously trying to break the internet.

  152. Starla says:

    Hilarious that people can’t objectively look at his player pool, his “star players”, his player depth, and compare that to other nations and see that he’s overachieved greatly. Anyone in the world can see that.

  153. Cereal Box says:

    hahaha, i think she can finish better than our forwards in front of goal, and I’m NOT JOKING.

  154. Doc says:

    Agree with this string of comments.

  155. Cereal Box says:

    You only look at the end result, but you don’t look at the tournaments as a whole. the only time we looked good was in WC Qualifying and the 07′ GC, and in the final of that game we had to overcome an early goal.

  156. fifawitz1313 says:

    I also don’t think a coach can get us to the next level. Only an increase in talented players can. I would like a more attack minded coach just to see what would happen when we really committed to the attack. Again, do we have the players to pull it off?

  157. Martha says:

    US team is stale. The US hasn’t really played for 90 well since the confederations cup. The early goals against England and Slovakia. Barely getting out of the weakest group. The headscratching lineups Ricardo Clark against Ghana Findley starting. Gold Cup roster selection Rogers Bornstein and Wondolowski. Originally leaving out Bedoya Burnburry Buddle. How can you say Gold cup is sooo important then lose against lowly Panama and get blown out against Mex who has a porous defense because you chose a guy who plays midfield and is on the bench for puebla to play lb then have no consequences? The program is just regressing.

  158. PetedeLA says:

    I think I fit in the same category.

    I don’t think he’s done a bad job.

    But I do feel he’s reached his limit.

    Time for new blood.

    If we can’t get someone sexy than at least Jason Kreis.

  159. fan4usa says:

    Time to Go! His track record against top teams is poor, and the team seems to have stagnated. He has had time to improve defense, which is the US weak-point, and has done little to change. Some key players do not seem to respond to him (e.g. Donovan and Dempsey) – which is two-way, but is ultimately the coaches responsibility.

    I would also fire Gulati. He has had sufficient tenure with lack-luster results. He can not pick or attract a world-class coach.

    If we want to be world-class, we need world-class leaders.

    Look how much Mexico has improved with same players and better coaching!

  160. victor says:

    I respect the job Bob Bradley has done. He is a no nonsense kind of guy who relly did try to infuse newe talent onto the team. We have found some winners on this group. It seems to me he has had to play politics with some european teams in order to release players to play during some key friendlies and tournaments in the past few years. Piece in some major injuries at the wrong time in key positions, and the team could not gel in time. True, he has had to use what he had, but in terms of depth, he kept using certain players who were a big drop off, when he had players that were established in the epl and mexican leagues. So it is under his guidance that the team has not shown fluidity. I give him this, when we are in tournaments, the team had a preponderence to play better as they went along, but with the evidence of starting slowly every time, this falls under his guidance. He has made some obvious bad choices. I dont want to play monday morning quarterback. It was what it was! We can ready the ship. If he is replaced, it has to be a big coach. Someone proven! Pay that person. We as a fan will back them up. Especially in the beginning. Sending a C team to the Copa America a few years ago was a big mistake. But that was a Gulati call. If we werent going to send a a team, we should not have accepted the invite. We have good players, but I feel they are tired of being invited to the MNT, then sitting on the bench and allowing a retread to play ahead of them. Notice I wont name names, but you can fill in the blanks. Makes for a good argument!

  161. mw says:

    I hear this as a popular topic, but I think if you replace Bornstein at halftime that you’ve used 2 substitutions on essentially one position, and I don’t believe that’s ever a good tactical use of subs because it leaves you with only the one sub to do something meaningful with. And what if another player gets injured? Please don’t take this as a defense of Bornstein, because for the life of me I don’t understand how he still gets invited into camps and tournaments, as the kid just isn’t cut out for international competition. I just think that once Bornstein was inserted he really has to stay in because those subs would potentially be needed elsewhere. Just my thought.

  162. Cereal Box says:

    If they keep improving under their new manager, they’ll beat darkhorses for 2014 WC, while we’ll be “deadhorses”, trying to get by…..

  163. PetedeLA says:

    On a side note, this was a pretty ballsy maneuver, Ives!

  164. CommonSense says:

    This is the perfect time for a change. Morale is down, there’s not a lot of excitement anymore, and most of all, we don’t have many important games in the near future. Plenty of time for a new manager to identify his players and implement a system without getting his head cut off by the media/fans.

    Bob has done very well for the team in the last cycle. Since the WC everything has been Dowhill. This isn’t for losing the GC. This is for a string of poor performances and bad results.

    My dream is biesla. I think well see a new MLS manager.

  165. jeff says:

    C’mon guys, LD10 disappeared in the Gold Cup, and arguably our best player in the cup (cherundolo) gets injured early in the final. That defensive shuffle is what screwed us, plus our lack of depth. We have options that coulda plugged the defensive holes but they weren’t available for selection (timmy chandler). There’s a lot of youth coming through the ranks, 2-3 guys’ll probably get onto the next WC Roster, LD and Demps will phase into more midfield playmakers since they’ll lose some spit and polish to their attack as they get older. Bradley understands the players, and while he fails at starting lineups every other game he is prone to masterstrokes at 1/2 time. Who could really replace him that would be better, that wouldn’t destabilize the whole team for the next couple of important qualifying years?

  166. ImaGoalMan says:

    Reason to keep BB: He tries new things…would Il Bruce ever have tried some things BB has done, (Sampson?), NOPE. I think we are simply a team in transition. We are changing styles and we are still lacking depth (injuries still really affect performance).

  167. Mexico Sucks says:

    Totally agree with this, if its not going to be a coach who can come in and really make a difference then why fire BB.

  168. Joamiq says:

    Well, I disagree. I think there’s a stigma against using two subs on the same position that really needs to go out the window when the situation demands it. And that one did. It was a desperate situation, and I don’t think you can not make that sub because there’s a possibility that you might need it later when you know for sure that Bornstein does not belong on the field, has already cost you goals, and is going to continue giving the opposition chances to score. Yeah, if you don’t have the sub, there’s a chance that later someone gets hurt and you need the extra sub, and then you’re screwed. That’s a possibility. But you know FOR SURE that having Bornstein in there is hurting you. In a championship game, I think you have to have the guts to make the call and get him out of there. Plus, they had one sub left, so his hands weren’t completely tied.

  169. Rev up those Revs says:

    Go

  170. jamin barnes says:

    We should put up the money and get Carlo Ancelotti.

  171. Steve-O says:

    I think the real problem lies with how Sunil Gulati runs the USSF, which is why I think he should go before anyone else does. However, if he stays and Bradley goes, we need a manager with significant international football pedigree AND more importantly, a philosophy that matches the USSF’s new coaching curriculum (which you can find a link to here: link to resources.ussoccer.com).

    Following those guidelines, here are managers that are currently available for hire:
    - Rafael Benítez
    - Bernd Schuster
    - Jürgen Klinsmann
    - Frank Rijkaard
    - Marco van Basten
    - Louis van Gaal

    If they want to go against their curriculum, they can choose from the following:
    - Marcelo Bielsa
    - Dunga
    - Carlos Alberto Pereira

    My heart says Bielsa while my head says Klinsmann.

  172. David says:

    He has been, in a word, awful. No amount of sugar-coating will change the fact that this uninspiring nepotist sorely needs to go so that our USMNT will have qualified leadership to take the program in another direction.

  173. Dave says:

    I think the poll is lacking a qualifying option of if a quality coach like Hiddink or Bisela is available. He did well last cycle, and although i don’t like the idea of multiple cycles, if Klinnsman or domestic coaches are the only alternative i’d stick to Bradley.

  174. ChiTownFire says:

    Defense is not just about speed but positioning, and Bornstein has no sense of positioning whatsoever. I would have rather played any other of our defenders than Bornstein, they all have a better sense of positioning.

  175. Hood Rich says:

    Bornstein is slow and a poor defender. He’s so bad they even Tigres know not to play him as a left back. They moved him to defensive midfielder (left side), and even there he is not playing regularly.

    His qualities are that he reads the game well and can add to an attack. However, there are better players than him in this position (Pearce, Castillo).

  176. ChiTownFire says:

    +1000 Of course we have the money! If they are telling you otherwise they are lying. You see that final? 100,000 fans? Now tell me we don’t have the money to pay a quality coach.

  177. wilyboy says:

    Anyone who thinks there aren’t better, and obtainable coaches, other than Bradley are misinformed. The real question is will Gulati ever choose a coach who will tell Him what to do rather than the other way around. Gulati sees himself as the vital care taker of US soccer, but we won’t get any better unless we get a new and different coach.

    Einstein once defined insanity as doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. America, forget the stern, defensive minded, blue collar American coach idea and start hoping for more.

  178. Lukas says:

    He should go for sure. It’s not hard to tell he has lost the locker room. The players deserve better. They are the real losers if he stays. Watch any of the lockerroom videos it’s a joke, they don’t look up to him anymore.

  179. Adam M. says:

    Time is up. He’s been a C+ manager with C+ average results. We need, and at this point deserve, an A manager with an A manager’s resume. More than anything else though, the team needs a shakeup and a fresh look at the talent pool and style of play. The truth is the WC was a historically bad moment of goalkeeping and a historically miracluous goal away from being a complete disaster, and the results since then haven’t shown improvement. Its true that US hasn’t produced raw world class talent on par with other countries, but we’ve had enough moments — 15 really great minutes here and there — to lead a reasonable follower to believe that a better manager would get more from this pool more consistently, and would avoid some of the more obvious mistakes he’s made.

  180. ChiTownFire says:

    We have good players. Most of them were just injured or not called up. I don’t want to hear that excuse anymore because it’s not true. A quality coach gets the most out of his players, which is what Mexico has achieved with their new coach. Why couldn’t we do the same thing?

  181. Bob's Time Has Run Out says:

    the reality is that right now Mexico is better than us. more talented and younger. so the question is are we okay with this? or do we want to be better than Mexico?

    if we don’t care about being 2nd then Bob is fine and we should keep him, he’s cheap and decent.

    but if we want to be on par with Mexico in this cycle and lay the groundwork to regain CONCACAF dominance for next cycle does anybody here really believe that Bob is the man to do that? i think any sane person would say no.

    our talent pool is too shallow, sadly so for a nation of our size and resources with more youth players than any other nation outside of brazil. now is bob solely responsible for this? no. but has he done anything to champion or install the sort of systemic changes that are desperately needed? no he has not and we have lost 5 years of development to Mexico as could be seen in the GC final. Mexico has produced Chicharito, Dos Santos, Barrera and others and we have produced nobody of that calibre. now people may question Klinsmans tactical ability but he is the man responsible for overhauling the German youth development system working with the clubs and he laid the grounwork for the German success in 2010. Bob isn’t a visionary big long range thinker and right now we need not just a soccer coach but a soccer visionary that can put the US on the correct path now and for the future or we risk many more results like the GC Final. I mean Bob cannot even manage to lead all of the disparate and various NT coaches (U18/U20/etc) so that they have a common vision and playing style and player recruitment and development approach. that IS a failure that Bob as the head coach of the senior NT is responsible for.

    secondly, in the short term we need a talent infusion thru recruitment of dual nationals to the USMNT. bob has done a decent job at that but has failed as much as he has succeeded. he has wasted throw away tournaments like the 2009 GC and wasted spots on stiffs with no national team potential like Lowry and Heaps et al. instead of reaching out to players like Hoyos and Funes Mori and giving them a chance to play with the USMNT (probably before they were technically ready) early and thus showing that the US programme saw them as very good prospects (and before they were on Arg radar) would have been far more valuable than giving caps to the ton of useless guys that were on that 09 GC roster. and to refer back to Klinsman again … who do you trust to impress a young player and get them to want to play with the US more … Bob? or a serious superstar former player like Klinsman? yeah … no contest.

    thirdly the only other way for the US to hang with Mexico this cycle is to cede the talent to them but to overcome their superiour talent with superior tactics. does anybody here have confidence that Bob is the guy who can do that? under him our defence has been horrendous and he has shown very little tactical accumen during his tenure. fluctuating between too conservative or too haphazard he seems to have no feel for the game and setting up to play certain opponents. he does better setting the team up to counter a better opponent but even that has failed him recently (Spain friendly, Mexico). he also has proven over and over to be a pitiful evaluator of talent, sticking with guys who have no business at the NT level (like Borenstein and others) and then calling on them at an important time only to see them fail over and over. now Klinsman may not be a tactical genius but he was smart enough to hire Loew as an assistant and Loew was responsible for much of the tactical success of the Germany team in both 06 and 10 WCs. look at the pathetic array of his old players that Bob has turned into the assistant core for the USMNT. those guys bring almost nothing to the table, Jesse March? Mike Sorber? that is seriously pathetic. they’ve never played at the highest levels and none of them have coached at the highest levels. Klinsman could throw a rock amongst his football friends and hit better and more qualified assistant coaches.

    here is the bottom line. Mexico is BETTER than us right now and pulling away. who here trust Bob to be the guy that can lead us back to equality in the short term and back ahead of Mexico in the long term? anybody? because he has proven over his 5 years to be utterly incompetent at the things that would be required to do just that (not that he isn’t decent at some things like motivating). he has no vision for the USMNT system and youth development in the long term, he has no skills at vertical integration of all of the USMNT programs .. he has shown to be a medicore dual nationality recruiter (Rongen has been much better for all the flack he has gotten) and he is certainly no tactical or defensive genius that can overcome Mexico’s superiour talent.

    so if you are fine with another 3 yers to add to the past 5 years of falling behind Mexico and are willing to cede the top spot in CONCACAF to Mexico for not just this cycle but also the next then Bob is definitely your guy.

  182. DingDong says:

    Here’s one thing that’s not being discussed:

    Obviously Bradley’s main job is winning games. But USSF hires him and part of USSF’s job is growing the game in this country. Bradley is a stand-up guy who has done a decent job. But he’s got zero personality and fans are sick of him. A new face, especially one with a media-friendly personality, might help grow the game in this country.

    Obviously, not the only reason to fire him, but should it be considered?

    (Thanks for raising the question Ives).

  183. Joamiq says:

    Oh really? Pray tell, what star players do we have that were injured or weren’t called up? Mexico has a guy who just bagged a ton of goals for Manchester United. Do we have someone like that?

  184. Brent McD says:

    Throwing a name out there that I haven’t seen mentioned as a candidate to replace Bob. What do y’all think about Frank Yallop?

  185. DingDong says:

    This is funny.

  186. ChiTownFire says:

    Is this Sunil or Michael Bradley?

  187. Nick says:

    I agree Cabrera has done a pretty good job. The problem is he seems to be a good developer which means he is more valuable at younger ages where he gets significant time with the players.

  188. gtv says:

    Two words: Klinsmann.

  189. Dudeinho says:

    Exactly its why he couldn’t hire Bielsa as technical director the board wants to keep the status quo with player development and selection. they want the american game to develop on its own merits. Bielsas Proposal was to change alot of that. As did Klinnsmans but Klinsi wanted control of stuff beyond soccer. There’s an issue of pride and how US soccer has grown using the american game. Hiring an outsider puts that belief to a challenge and admits failure. Its a bit pompous if you ask me. Gulati is actually trying to push for change but the board hinders him. They hired him to make US Soccer Money which Gulati has done brilliantly. just look how much the green money making machine down south makes per friendly in the states. alot of that money is going into the coffers of USSoccer.

  190. Joamiq says:

    No, this is a realist.

    BTW, I like Michael Bradley a lot, but he’s not exactly starting for Arsenal either.

  191. Bob's Time Has Run Out says:

    you think Frank Yallop has the skills, experience, personality, tactical accumen and vision to help overhaul the US youth development program and to get the USMNT to catch up to the currently superiour Mexico and lay the ground work to overtake them next cycle?

    really?

    can i have some of what you are smoking?

  192. Dudeinho says:

    big names foreign coaches wont touch US soccer the minute they see the problems they realize its too much work and not enough pay. Let alone all the beauacracy

  193. ChiTownFire says:

    Our team isn’t about just one star but a collection of solid players. I do believe Clint Dempsey scored 12 goals last year in the EPL, only 1 goal shy of Chicharrito and I realize that it’s not the same caliber team as Man United but as a Midfielder I’d say that’s a pretty good goal tally and they do play against the same teams. There were a couple solid players injured such as Stuart Holden and Benny Feilhaber. There were also other quality players that did’t make it such as Jay Demerit, Timothy Chandler and Herculez Gomez. As well as players that went but didn’t get much playing time such as Onyewu and Edu. Bradley always says if you’re not playing for your club you won’t get playing time but keeps playing his son. With better selection from our player pool and a little less injuries I’d say we’re a quality team.

    Bradley is a decent coach, yes, but if we could get someone with much more experience than him, which I believe we have the money for, then why not pay him.

  194. He should stay and should get more respect for US fans. He’s played BY FAR the most difficult opponents and has registered enough firsts and records and so to be a a hero.

  195. Kevin says:

    Your on crack.

  196. The whole program has reached the end of a 30 year cycle.

    The program needs to understand several things:

    1. There is more talent here than in England( They only have 4 million people playing, we have 24 million)
    2. The last time kick and run won a World Cup was in 1966
    3. Integration is the key to our success
    4. You don’t build a team around Michael Bradley

    Bob Bradley is a product of the last 30 year cycle. We need to move onto the next cycle. We have experienced professional players who are in the coaching ranks. It is time to use them.

    Klinsmann is the obvious choice. If we wanted to stay in the US, Kinnear has proven himself to be a good coach and Jason Kreis is definitely a candidate for the job.

    I prefer Kreis because I think he is the one that would know how to blend our Hispanic talent and help develop an “American” style of play.

    The primary reason Bob Bradley should go is that he is part of the old system that no longer serves the program. He should get our respect for what he has accomplished. It is time for him to move on.

  197. ChiTownFire says:

    Listen, if Bob Bradley was a quality coach with proven experience than I’d probably agree with the whole shallow player pool argument. But in all reality look at Bob’s resume, it doesn’t scream impressive. As with everything, you get what you pay for and USSF is just trying to get by. They’d rather pay Bob a low salary and not have to get someone that’s actually qualified until the fans are pissed off or they stop making money.

    Another thing that bothers me about Bob is, dress for the position you’re getting payed for man! Is it that hard to look professional and wear a suit and tie???

  198. 3 words – get over it

    the guy under achieved with a very talented German side and failed at Bayern Munich with a roster of stars that made the CL final the following year.

    The man crush on Jurgey needs to end. He’ll be the US’ Hugo Sanchez. not to mention he’s power hungry. oh and he would have sent a B team to the Gold cup in ’07 costing us the Confed Cup just so the A squad could go to Copa America – which means nothing to the US.

  199. Joamiq says:

    Dempsey is not on Chicharito’s level. Holden, Feilhaber, Demerit, and Chandler would certainly be useful players, but none are difference makers at the international level. Most of the guys you named would not play for Mexico. Your nepotism argument is 100% demonstrably incorrect. Bradley has never said that you have to get playing time to play for the national team. Bradley continued playing Onyewu despite his not even making the bench for Milan. He also has continued to start Jozy and Agudelo despite the fact that Jozy hasn’t played club minutes since January and Agudelo doesn’t get much time with the Red Bulls.

    I’m not saying Bob’s selection is perfect – he’s definitely made questionable decisions. And I’d gladly fire Bob if there was a better coach who was willing to take the job. But the talent level is not as high as you think it is.

    I’m curious, how do you know how much money US Soccer has?

  200. Please give me a line up that can play the type of football you are talking about on the international level? Go for it.

  201. Brent McD says:

    Whoa buddy, put down the crack pipe. I put that out there in the form of a question because I obviously don’t know. What I do know is Yallop played 13 years in England, 52 games internationally, is a good evaluator of talent, and built a championship caliber team (Earthquakes).

    People throw out Dom Kinnear’s name alot and, while I love the guy, I’m thinking more and more that Dynamo won their two titles with Yallop’s players.

  202. joe says:

    “Yes. He’s been mediocre and a new coach could be better.”

    We’ve won a lot of games under BB, but the play has been extremely inconsistent. In fact, the only thing that has been consistent is that the team, as a whole, plays well below their level.

  203. Joamiq says:

    Are you kidding me? The shallow player pool has nothing to do with whether or not Bradley as a strong resume. The fact that the talent we have available is not high exists independent of whether or not the coach is quality. As I’ve said, I’m not 100% sold on retaining Bradley. I’m just agreeing with Ives when he says USMNT fans have an inflated sense of the talent level of the team.

    I don’t think money has anything to do with the rehiring and retention of Bradley. I think the lack of better alternatives does.

    I’m not even addressing the fashion argument. Irrelevant.

  204. joel says:

    he has done alright…but its time for new blood

  205. salgado says:

    OMG! Please don’t quote Obama–he needs to go, too.

    Marcello Bielsa!!!!!

  206. Erik says:

    I hope Gulati is not satisfied by the sustained level of mediocrity that we have achieved. There’s still time to bring in a new coach before WC qualifying. Q is, can we attract a world-class coach? It’s ridiculous to still hear that the US coach needs to understand the American game. I want some one who has experience at the highest levels of the game, and is resourceful, ambitious, and creative.

  207. jb says:

    +1 What’s this? A reasonable and realistic response? Unheard of!

    It would be kind of nice to have a different perspective evaluate the player pool after the last 5 yrs (13 if you include the Arena era). It would be foolish, however, to make a change without having a suitable replacement. Consider also, USSF is locked into paying Bradley for 3 more years, so another hire will mean that much less money for development, etc.

  208. RapidsFan says:

    Uh, I wasn’t there, but I’m pretty sure we had 20,000 fans and Mexico had 80,000. (That’s not to say that we don’t have the money, just that the Gold Cup fan base is perhaps not the best indication of that.)

  209. John says:

    I agree there’s a issue with the player pool. However, that doesn’t mean the coach should be equally weak.

    I’d still love to see someone like Roberto Martinez. Hopefully not a hired-gun like Hiddink.

  210. This is one of the best posts i have ever read on this site, and i agree with you on everything. Kudos.

  211. You can get freaking Pep Guardiola over here but if the players aren’t Messi, Xavi and Inesta you won’t get the same results.

    Tell which players are going to play this style of football that everyone seems to think BB is holding us back from playing. Who’s the dynamic striker? Who’s the creative midfield team? Who are the quick, intelligent, creative passers to play in the D?

    BB has changed from the 4-4-2 to reflect the change in our player pool. He’s tried out nearly every player these boards have clamored for..many times finding big time flops (remember when Kenny Cooper was our savior) at the senior level.

    The player pool is just not quite where we think it is yet. We are still a defend first counter attack PLAYER POOL. Changing the coach will not change this.

    If another coach comes in and tries to change the US to another possession style we will fall flat on our faces and out of contention for anything a la Hugo Sanchez in Mexico.

    Sorry guys just being real. BB is the man for the US right now.

  212. Ricky B. Free says:

    Well with the players we have I sure think we can dominate Concacaf (Mexico not included).

    By the way the player development program wants the US to play a 4-3-3. The US needs to hire a guy that can coach that style.

  213. howard

    chandler/cherundolo Ream/Gonzales Bocanegra Lichaj

    dempsey bradley jones donovan

    holden/adu/torres

    altiodre

    we can put bedoya in on the wings, or play chandler on the right and you can call up sean franklin a VASTLY underated player.

    edu if your up a goal.

    you have agudelo or davies or burnbury

  214. Ricky B. Free says:

    If anybody here thinks that a coach cant help a team play better Porto was better with Villas-Boas and they had almost the exact same team than a year before.

    I am not saying to hire Villas-Boas all I am saying is that a coach can make a difference.

  215. sandtrout says:

    Any coach whose team loses 2-0 leads TWICE in significant championships must be seriously questioned. Then throw in the sleep-inducing mediocrity of the team’s recent performances and the questionable team selections (He’ll never live down selecting Robbie Rogers only to have Alejandro Bedoya gifted to him via injury) I conclude he must go now. Get the new World Cup cycle started with fresh blood.

  216. Your English Teacher says:

    ives, you’re the worst soccer writer on the internet. You should learn about punctuation and run on sentences. Commas are also a good tool to introduce into your repetoire. How do they let you continue to write for Fox Soccer…well at least it shows how budget they are as an organization.

  217. Luke says:

    At this level, most players do more off the field perpartaions before a game than on the field training. They go over scouting reports and film study, learning about opposing players tendencies, strengths and weaknesses and figuring out a gameplan. Putting Bornstein in essentially was like putting 2 new players on the field in the outside back positions. Better to have brought in Spector on the right and leave Lichaj on the left where doing pretty good.

  218. johnboy says:

    I agree…he must have to pay to use a comma.

  219. BB can’t coach a 4-3-3?

  220. jb says:

    Sorry I disagree. 10 yrs ago we had McBride and Reyna – two players whose position and influence have never been replaced. Throw in J. O’Brien too. Tell me, would you have liked to have seen ‘in their prime’ Eddie Pope or Tony Sanneh out there last week instead of Bornstein? I know I would’ve.

  221. JG13 says:

    “bounce here or there”…or a call on a clear handled save by a defender…

  222. Ryan says:

    I see what you are saying. To me, Gulati seems like a person that doesn’t like direct conflict. So, rather than dropping the hammer on Bob and telling him he is not good enough to carry on as USMNT coach, he will wait until he can produce and excuse for his move. That’s just what it seems like to me. He would rather make the move more indirectly than directly.

    If BB doesn’t go now, he won’t go until the next WC is over. That’s what I was saying. Firing him now would provide ample time to prepare for Brazil. Firing him 1-2 years from now would not be smart to try to implement a new system just before a WC. That’s why BB will be the USMNT coach until at least 2014.

  223. How do you think these same players that BB uses will suddenly be able to improve their passing, touch and finishing under a new coach that they spend very little time with?

  224. TimN says:

    Actually Ives, I disagree completely with you in regard to it “not being likely” that Bradley could be let go. WCQ doesn’t begin until next summer, and if Gulati were to let Bradley go, it’s perfect timing in that it would give nearly a year to find a suitable replacement. As well, given that it was clearly obvious after WC 2010 that Bradley wasn’t their first choice for this cycle, I would bet money that his contract has some sort of an early termination clause in it.

    It’s time for new ideas at the top, and a new approach to player pool development.

  225. primoone says:

    I think its a bit funny to tell you the truth. Ives is the first person to tell you to chill and relax with the fire Bob Bradley chatter yet he loves it because he turns it into a feature post…

  226. For me this would be the ONLY reason to fire him. And it makes sense. It bums me out how much people don’t like him. I really think this attitude isn’t so much born from his personality but rather the personality of those who do not like him – whiny two year olds who didn’t get what they wanted after the Bruce. He could win the WC and these people would still be crying and stomping their feet. (waaa! I wanted Klinsi. I want Klinsi. Waaa! I want Klinsi)

  227. Knuckles says:

    US Soccer has been in need of a revamp for decades, from the ground up. Basically US Soccer needs to be gutted, razed and completely reconstructed from a completely different blueprint.

  228. With our player pool…Dunga. The rest would get so frustrated they would quit.

  229. Jeff Awesome says:

    The players are probably like how teenagers feel about their parents. “I have already learned everything you are going to teach me.” Now we’re just repeating the same things. And this is why players need different coaches.

  230. Combs says:

    We saw Bruce Arena’s failings in 2006… yet we hired a Bruce clone to replace him. If we’re just going to keep doing that, why not bring Bruce back, at least he was better than Bob.

    Not sure Klinsi’s the answer, but how about Kries, Sigi or Quieroz… or even taking a shot at a big money name?

  231. Villa Boas is with his team everyday. A national team coach cannot affect his team as much. They pretty much have to play with the cards that are dealt. US isn’t starting with pocket A’s if you know what I mean….

  232. I’m on the fence when it comes to Bradley – but does hearing that players think he has taken them as far as he can kind of rub anyone else the wrong way?

    Seems to me like that’s transferring blame, unfairly, in my opinion. Bob Bradley’s tactics may have limited the squad in the past, but any failures are more directly tied to the players themselves than Bob’s coaching prowess. They should know that more than anyone.

  233. john says:

    Bob picks weak players over and over for important games. He seems to think if he pecks them performance will follow. (I do not want to name the players but everybody knows who they are.) He has a blind spot in hay way.

  234. I’m confused…BB runs the youth program?

    And who says a mediocre player will result in a poor coach. Mourinho…

  235. Mattbag212 says:

    I was never in the “FIRE BB” camp that seems so huge here on this site, but the Gold Cup definitely concerned me. I fear that Bradley is losing the respect of his team. I don’t think it’s definitively “the time” to fire Bradley, but I think maybe we have to consider putting a fresh face into the system. He absolutely cannot afford to lose the team’s respect. If our players revolt, we get set back five or ten years.

  236. Paul Thomas says:

    The US’s group not only wasn’t the worst group at the WC (which was pretty obviously the godawful Group F), it probably wasn’t even the second-worst (Group B).

  237. Paul Thomas says:

    Eh, give the US the two ludicrously disallowed goals that should have been scored, and the team wins the group going away…

  238. DingDong says:

    I don’t think anyone has seen the contract. It possibly has an early termination clause — I wouldn’t be surprised if USSF reserved itself the right to get out of the contract after the Gold Cup (or to pay reduced damages for breaching etc.).

  239. WorldCitizen1 says:

    For those who haven’t seen it, Paul Gardner hits the nail squarely and forcefully on the head where Bob Bradley is concerned with his latest column at the Soccer America Web site. ‘Nuff said!

  240. Michael F. SBI Mafi Original says:

    I voted “No. Not bad enough to get fired.” I like Bob Bradley a lot. I think he has done a lot better then expected in some competitions (Conf Cup) and less then expected in others (WC, GC). I don’t think getting to two finals and losing the lead in both is necessarily indicative of him as a coach as much as it is reflective of the our talent pool. Players must have the talent to see out those games. But this isn’t just a black and white question. There are a lot of variables, most importantly: would our new coach be a foreign world cup winner or Jason Kreis, Dominic Kinnear, Sigi, etc. Because it it’s the latter, no thanks. Stick with Bradley. But if we can make an obvious improvement, why wouldn’t we?

    think he’s done well overall (or “mediocre”, as I voted), I just like the idea of new coach/new blood at the beginning of a World Cup cycle.

  241. Paul Thomas says:

    Einstein said nothing of the sort, which is good, because insanity is actually defined as “experiencing sensations which have no basis in reality.”

    I can’t tell which is worse, the false attribution or the tendentious, obviously incorrect definition…

  242. Bob's Time Has Run Out says:

    no. but bob bradley has had zero to say in 5 years about how young players are developed in this country. he has not stood up and fought for any sort of vision going forward because h has none. and over the past 5 years (and probably more) the US has NEEDED its head USMNT coach to be the sort of visionary (in addition to just plain coach) that could lead the country to a more advanced development system and Bob was not and is not that guy.

    and you don’t have to be a good player or even a player at all to be a good coach. but the guys bob hired to be asst coaches aren’t even experienced coaches, they were noobie coaches. sorry but i am not really all that jazzed about a bunch of guys who were mediocre players and who have ZERO coaching credentials and experience in the game at the highest levels.

    i guess every coach tends to stick with “their guys” (some more than others). but some coaches “guys” are better than others. Bob’s guys suck. Borenstien is a Bob Guy, Klejstan is a Bob Guy, Marsch is a Bob Guy and Sorber is a Bob Guy. they are all decicedly mediocre at what they do. Mourinho’s guys are guys like Andre Villas Boas and Klinsmans guys are guys like Joachim Loew. big difference.

  243. Red says:

    Wow the first commenter got it 100% right. He’s done a good job, but the problem with the team is that they need a new spark…and that comes with a new coach. Bob Bradley has done a lot for the USMNT

  244. Kojo says:

    It appears that Sunil is to comfortable with the way things are. He isn’t feeling any heat and therefore goes with a coach that allows him to have the amount of control he wants over the US Mens team. Given this Bradley stays however Sunil will come out tomorrow with talk about a technical director for the team. He won’t say much just that he is looking to hire someone for the position. Also, many US Nats fans have too high an opinion of the player pool. Dempsey is an underrated player however in the same breath he is not a player who is going to star for Arsenal, Chelsea, Man City, Man Utd.

  245. SecretSquirrel says:

    That doesn’t really allow for a full cycle because then the next guy only has 2-3 years, but other than that solid idea

  246. northzax says:

    Kreis? You’re joking, right? You want a 39 year old with four years of coaching experience, none internationally, to manage a toP 30 national team? We will not hire someone with no international experience. One thing Bob does need to do better is recruit assistants and possible successors. Assuming he doesn’t get fired tomorrow (which he won’t) his successor in 2014 is likely to come from his staff. Find and recruit him. Be it Dom Kinnear, Benny Olsen, Caleb Porter whatever. Time for the next generation to cut it’s teeth in international waters

  247. sodak_in_nyc says:

    Sunil is the disease. Bradley is the symptom. Bradley is not bad just passed his sell by date and better coaches exist. My own view is that any manager can improve at the margin (Ginger vs. MarryAnne debates about holding mids and fullbacks) but until we have a natural striker, Mexico and most of Europe and Africa will be better sides. We have 9 men that more or less match up well vs. Mexico save the little pea). The good new is these types tend to be late teens when their truly messianic abilities emerge so we have two years for the chosen one to show himself.

  248. sodak_in_nyc says:

    Note to the author of the piece. Why hasn’t the New Yorker or the New York Times done a real expose on USSoccer. Sunil is a somewhat inscrutable American version of FIFA corruption. In otherwords he kowtows to them so he can fell important internally while resting comfortably knowing that most of the American faithful are content with advancing beyond the group stage every four years. There are two issues here: a deep and wide pool of young talent that is falling short of what seems to be our destiny. 2) Staying mute while our cousins in the FA stand brave against FIFA corruption mocks our tradition and values.

  249. briosucks says:

    I have to agree with the squad selection. Is the US that limited with players that the side cannot be stronger? The problem with this Gold Cup was that there was this need to win it to go to Brazil. and see what it is like to be in the country the year before. This team was loaded with players who will not be on a US team heading for Brazil. They will all be over 30 and that is not the making of a team that is going to stay long. It does seem that BB almost has it right at the start of the game and needs to make one adjustment to change the attitude on the field and brighten the play.

  250. briosucks says:

    Right.

  251. briosucks says:

    Have you seen the U-17s?

  252. winds23 says:

    I have recently begun to understand the relationship between coaching and results on the pitch. I don’t think you can discount the importance of quality coaching, NOR the importance of individual efforts and talent on the field. The coach is part of the team and his decisions and strategies will have a massive, potentially catastrophic or brilliant effect on the game.

    In the Gold Cup final I had complaints with the way the team was managed… I am not a professional player or coach but there were things that clearly could have been done differently to change the outcome of the game. I also had complaints about individual performances of players.

    All that said, I think bringing on a new coach is always a gamble. How can you know that the new blood will do as well as or better than the outgoing manager? What if he does worse? We didn’t win the Gold Cup but we know Bradley was good enough to get us to the final and lead the team to a 2-0 lead in the first half, and that’s something. We don’t know for certain that another coach could have necessarily made the choices that would have earned the USA a win. Honestly, I wouldn’t want to be the one to make the decision in this case, it’s a very close call in my opinion.

  253. briosucks says:

    I do think he has been finding and trying more players that ever before. Is it that there are just more players, maybe. The problem is that there was more emphasis on winning the Gold Cup than necessary. All of the friendlies and even this tournament should have been about expanding the player pool. But even with that the fans will grouse. I do not think that he has done an awful job but maybe the players need to see someone new.

  254. VinceN says:

    Bob didn’t find Chandler…Chandler was found by Yanks Abroad and Tony Sanneh…Sanneh called the USSF about the up and comer Chandler…

  255. vinceN says:

    seriously…how Findley ever gets to play on the National team is beyond me…MLS, sure why not…but we’re talking about the world stage here…

  256. vinceN says:

    i was being pretty sarcastic about Bora…but he did do a good job with the players he had back then…of course the US had to be defensive in 90 and 94…we were playing with semi-professionals…

    BOB has to go now…

  257. Alex G says:

    He should go, definetly, thanks to Mr. Mediocre we have a robotic squad trying to beat great soccer countries, its awful, no imagination, no real knowledge, we don´t have any creators on the team, well, it sucks to be a USMNT fan right now.

    We need a new coach, someone with insight and who develops talent from the streets, where the talent lies, we can´t compete with brazilians, mexicans or argentinians who know how to dribble past two or three defenders, only Adu is doing it and he´s not valued as a great player.

    Bring Torres back to the mix, MIX, who else?, well give Zack Whitbread a chance, have some balls and work with Guido or other u17 players, try new things, play Donovan up top…

  258. Alex G says:

    About time man, Ives this post was needed…

  259. vinceN says:

    eddie pope and john o’ brien, a couple of my old time favorites…i’m happy with Reyna as well…McBride…great grinder…but i think the kids nowadays have a higher skill level…just afraid to try it against top level competition

  260. paytoplayparent says:

    Abolish pay to play…

    Which should make coaching easier…….. Shall I say Maradonna!!

  261. Indigo Montoya says:

    Some good points, but I disagree with this: “Holden, Feilhaber, Demerit, and Chandler would certainly be useful players, but none are difference makers at the international level.”

    Holden and Chandler are still unproven, thus, we don’t know if they’re difference makers as of yet. I’ll give you, Demerit, but Feilhaber has proven to make a difference for the US when he has played as a sub.

  262. briosucks says:

    The problem for BB is that the USA has not had a reliable back line and defensive players like the 2002 team with Eddie Pope and Carlos Llamosa in the center. Look at that 2002 defensive roster and compare it to teams that BB has put out on the field. There is no comparison. Cherundolo was the best player for the US when you consider the entire tournament. Also, Tim Howard has not had the consistent string of lights out games like Bard Freidel … that may also be the result of the back four sitting in front of him. He is just guessing at what they are going to do. I think of Tim like Kasey Keller too nice, the Gk needs to be more vocal with his defenders like Friedel or Tony Meola.

  263. Juan from L.A. says:

    All the points have been touched. US Soccer has reached in essence its realistic goal. Bob Bradley is not the problem but part of the problem. True, Mourinho or Guardiola can come and nothing might happen but at least there is hope that something might happen, with Bradley there isn’t anymore. So the question is do we waste three years to shorten the gap with Mexico (they will still dominate regardless who comes because of the quality in the field and who they have leading them in the bench who is a very good coach)? Plus his stubborness to bring Bornstein and other players is extremely questionable. Today with the humiliating elimination of hte U-17, previously the U-20 getting eliminated, the problem is huge. We are at a crossroads to be happy with what we have or make fundamental changes to learn and take those necessary steps to emulate what Mexico is doing right, what others are doing right what we have been doing right and intend to become elite. Getting to this part was the easiest, getting to be elite will be extremely difficult or just ask Mexico. They are not even there yet.

  264. vinceN says:

    very true…the only addition for mexico lately has been Javi Hernandez…remember how Dos Santos was off the radar for a couple years? now he’s back in action thanks to a fresh face for mexico…we just need new blood to invigorate the Nats…

    The only thing that bothers me about Bob that I can’t let go of is how his son always starts and plays every single minute and his insistence on giving Bornstein and Rogers a million opportunities…so sick of it…KILL BOB NOW

  265. Indigo Montoya says:

    Ha!

  266. briosucks says:

    Come on by the time these players are being selected for the national team developing them is too late. You are not getting onto the US squad because BB saw you playing on the streets of Baltimore or LA. Silly. The US coach can give players of known abilities a chance but they have been found by someone else before. Is the USA really losing so much untapped talent, I really do not think so. How many of the Mexican team grew up in the USA? We need to tap that talent but I think that growing up here affects their soccer IQ and development. Dempsey is really a special player who plays like he only played pick up soccer as a kid.

    That is another problem, how many kids are playing pick-up soccer? Not many, even if they play, they may go to the basketball court with their friend and not on the soccer field.

  267. Indigo Montoya says:

    I’m with you on the suit and tie, or at least a sportcoat and collared shirt…damn, that track suit is tired and fugly. And it’d be a stone groove if Bob would also don a bowler hat.

  268. Alex G says:

    I give you a complete list of coaches who have more technical skills than BB, one is Tuca Ferretti, the brazilian coach of Tigres, the one that seated Bornstein, yeah, that`s a great coach, who else, Guillerm Vasquez Jr., pumas coach and champion with only one year on the job, who else?, Velez Sarsfield coach, and I can go on and on…
    On the squad selection, he has plenty of fault, why bring Bornstein if you can play Lloyd or Castillo, hell, he had Whitbread, Gonzalez, Gale, there are plenty of better defenders, why bring Rogers if you can have Convey or Mix,mmm, not a clue… great for BB.

    Adu was a given, we were calling for him as fans, cause we understood he was a skillful and committed player.

  269. bottlcaps says:

    The US has produced some of the best players ever, yet the player pool seems mediocre at best. Why?

    It comes down to player selection. Remember, the team is only as strong as it’s weakest link. Time and time again we have seen players selected to the pool that are not as good as others.

    This is the coaches decision, the coaches selection. He lives or dies by it, as he should.

    It’s a no brainer to pick a Dempsey, or Donovan or even a Howard, players who have proved themselves to have no peers in the USMNT.

    Outside the obvious, it then comes down to who the coaches pick that are off our everday radar, the palyers who are good but get little accolades because they do a good job and are expected to do so.

    The previous wisdom of choosing ANYBODY playing in Europe seemed a safe bet. But many of those who play in a second tier national league (outside the big 6 of Spain, England, Germany, Italy, France and the Netherlands) would get the nod over MLS players in most cases.

    This should not now or never be the rule or policy.

    It seems to me that many players abroad and many at home, have been overlooked or not given an equal opportunity because of the coaching staff “playing favorites”. There is no doubt about any of this. It is clear that Bob Bradley gave more opportunities to players he favored rather than take a chance on new blood. Players who were error-prone or who have clearly not produced were given EXTRA opportunities because of potential or just because they have played for the current coach at a club level.

    As a result of poor player selection, of not looking at enough players, and giving those “favorites” many opportunities time after time, the pool got rather small at crucial times. It may be forgiven to a first year/new/rookie coach, but NOT one who has been on the job for over 5 years.

    This is an abject coaching failure. And as such, the continuation of this coaching administration must be terminated as it is a result of a systemic failure and not one of circumstances.

  270. briosucks says:

    Where are the nest great batch of US defenders? The US defense has not been reliable with the exception of Tim Howard. It is really hard to be creative if you need your most creative players consistently needing to cover for a week defense.

  271. Alex G says:

    agree on that! Cabrera is way better.

  272. Alex G says:

    which players??, the rich kids from the academies??, im not saying get them to the USMNT yet, go around, have scouts watch them and bring them to the mix, it`s not rocket science…

  273. Joamiq says:

    I agree with you on Holden and Chandler – that’s partially what I meant. Some people who think our talent pool is better than it is already seem to think they’re already international caliber players. I hope they will be, but we can’t expect more of Bob based on the performance of players we haven’t yet seen excel at the international level.

    I’m a big Benny fan. I think after Adu, he’s the next best thing we have in terms of creativity in the midfield. Difference maker? Probably. But not a big difference. If everyone’s healthy, he probably doesn’t even get into the game most of the time.

  274. arnold says:

    Ives, you are dangerously naive about the state of US Soccer currently. The U-17 thrashing, along with other shortfalls, have necessitated a change in US Soccer…big time. Yes, I know this is not BB’s fault, but with a dearth of talent the next couple of years we need a coach who is much more tactically astute.

  275. briosucks says:

    When we find the real replacement for Eddie Pope and the 2002 defenders then we can talk about player development. The US needed more attacking players and now the team needs the next defenders. For this year Cherundolo is the best we got. Maybe over time Omar Gonzalez, Perry Kitchen, or Ethan White can become an Eddie Pope type player. They just need to get the calls in meaningful games.

  276. Indigo Montoya says:

    Come on over, Mr. Ancelloti, the sun is shining and the weather is great.

  277. ryan baileyboy says:

    Bornstein for cherundolo? Yooooouuuurrrr fired!!

  278. Andrew H. says:

    And to answer who should replace him, I think Marcello Lippi would be a terrific coach.

  279. vinceN says:

    great post…totally agreed…where did u hear about those young prospects you mentioned that are now on Argentina’s radar? Were they ever in the USA’s youth system?

  280. Powderhorn Pops says:

    hahahahahha

  281. A Basket Full of Biscuits says:

    The Gold Cup loss wasn’t his fault. Mexico had far more talent to draw on than he did. However, that game should have been moot. He should have been fired after the World Cup (or not extended). He’s never gotten complete performances from his guys. His anomalous successes belie literally years of inconsistent, middling performances by his team. He’s had enough time to prove he could get more out of these guys. Next.

  282. Powderhorn Pops says:

    Do you work for the USSF and are in all the meetings and have access to all correspondences. If not I call BS on you for knowing anything about what BB has or hasn’t done regarding the youth program which btw I don’t believe is his job.

    It seems you are also a part of the NTs inner workings to know just what kind of coached Jesse Marsh and Sorber are. Are you an exNT player? You’ve been coached by these two? You’ve been to full camps and witnessed their performances? You’ve reviewed game footage with them? Maybe you’ve spoken to members of the team regarding their coaching abilities? Man, you are highly placed to have both kinds of access.

    Like I said I call BS on you. You’ve got yourself convinced of things you truly have no clue about – BBs involvement in the youth program and whether or not BB’s assistants are in fact good coaches.

  283. Powderhorn Pops says:

    +1

  284. Warren says:

    “mediocre’ is not good enough is it?

    Bob should never have been been hired, let alone rehired.

    When your star player leaves you dangling in the wind…it’s time for the coach to go because it’s easier to find a better coach, than, evidently, for USSF to identify and groom talent.

    Listen to Landon, and move on, since Bob’s feelings are not our concern. Pay him the $ owed, pat him on the back, and let’s move on.

  285. Warren says:

    Because – he’s past his expiration date/ability to inspire motivate his team?

    As evidenced by team usually giving up goal inside of 20 minutes of hearing his pre-game pep talk??

  286. Powderhorn Pops says:

    Names please? Have seen the Jan camp lists? Did you see the 2009 GC team? How about the last Olympic team? BB has tried out pretty much everyone.

  287. Warren says:

    Bob is a mediocre coach, facts are facts.

    Sunil was just too lazy to do anything about it after the last Cup.

    OK Sunil isn;t being paid supposedly, so I can understand why he didn;t want to be bothered by running a proper search for coach after the World Cup.

    But because Sunil is a lazy unpaid volunteer of a USSF figurehead, we get stuck for coaches for 2 cycles every time???

    Time for Sunil to earn his travel per diem and first class travel…and find a new coach.

  288. Warren says:

    90000 tickets sold = USSF cleaned up on Gold Cup, while USMNT wallows in medicority.

  289. PD says:

    and that blueprint would be?

  290. PD says:

    I’m so tired of these kinds of empty statements. How exactly does “the next step” happen? What does “making strides” look like?

    Aside from having the most goals at the end of the game, how do you create a winning team? BE SPECIFIC! If you have ideas we’d all love to hear them.

    We all want the USMNT to win the WC in our lifetime if nor sooner, but HOW DOES THAT HAPPEN? Firing someone until this magically happens is not really an answer.

  291. blah-zay says:

    I’m not a big fan of Bradley, but I’m even less of a fan of ditching a coach without a clear plan and manager waiting in the wings. So, until the US knows that they can get their man I say they stick with Bradley.

  292. Greg says:

    He’s not horrible, or bad, hell, he was pretty damn good. He just shouldn’t have been offered that second cycle. National coaches get one world cup go, thats it.

  293. Ploobian says:

    Yo BBrad I got your back all the way! Go USA!

  294. Ploobian says:

    best answer to this question i’ve seen by far is Sean O’Conor’s article at no short corners. I totally agree with him. It’s not about Bob my friends.

  295. Tom O'Leary says:

    Lippi would be great if we could catch him… but what if there was a realistic Bradley replacement that no one is talking about? Someone who’s studied Lippi’s method? Someone with a depth of experience in both the US and Europe? Someone with a deep resume with proven ability at coaching identifying, developing and coaching talent from the youth ranks all the way to the international level? This person exists. His name is Osian Roberts. Google his article on WalesOnline.

  296. Ploobian says:

    Why do you guys keep deleting my comments!!!

  297. Tom O'Leary says:

    Jeff,

    You have the name already ;) but here it is again: Osian Roberts, Wales Technical Director and former All-American at Furman (Dempsey). Google his BBC video on mini football and then tell me there’s no one “who could really replace” BB.

  298. Da Crusher says:

    GO NOW

  299. tp says:

    If they are not going to replace all the “soccer people” in the USSF then they should just as well leave him. No one of any worth is going to take the job with their hands tied by big wigs at the federation office with no experience t in the ever evolving world of player development in world soccer.

    PS – this does not mean I am a Klinnsman drone. There are a lot quality managers who wouldn’t touch this under the present regime running player development, technical development etc. Maybe not qualifying, or barely just, is the only answer to bring on the big changes that are really needed.

  300. Holden says:

    Am I the only one that thinks we should have hired Klinsmann right after the world cup? I’d still say he should get the job if he’ll take it.

  301. Warren says:

    There’s always plenty of quality candidates available, that’s the whole point.

    Stale coaches – even if generally quality – get canned every day.

    In spite of occasional clever move, Bob makes other bonehead ones coming partially from his lack of experience and feel for game at highest level

    Since highest he has ever known – is level US is at now, which clearly ain’t that high given coincidental 4-0 spankings of USMNT and U-17 squad; coupled with U-20 wash-out, tells you what we all already knew: t

    hat USSF was stale and whole program needs a Klinsmannian shake-up, whether administered by Klinsmann or someone else.

  302. PD says:

    play hard is all he advocates… what do you base that on? al the early goals? the flat performances against Panama and the Gwads in the opening round? Or the countless hours of BB training camps you’ve watched?

    Truth is there is a lot about how BB coaches that we just don’t know.

  303. PD says:

    David Moyes.

  304. PD says:

    wait! the u-17′s just lost a match to Germany 4-0
    OFF WITH HIS HEAD!
    Coaches that lose games are awful, right?

  305. PD says:

    sure, Jack Warner is available.

  306. PD says:

    How about Pia Sundhenge? I’m only half kidding.

  307. PD says:

    David Moyes

  308. PD says:

    get over Klinsmann.

  309. PD says:

    David Moyes

  310. PD says:

    What is your basis for believing that Klinsi is a no brainer?

    he was a great player and can talk nice on TV, but what else?

    His success in Germany? That was with Joachim Lowe, who is still with Germany and getting better results — when you consider the fact that the team was playing on non-german soil and was considerably younger. I know Klinsmann claims that it was all his ideas and innovations that Lowe is now reaping the benefit of, but no one else seems to be saying that other than him.

    What has done since then, (on his own mind you)
    Bayern Munich? DUD… gone after less than a season.
    Technical Assitant to TFC…. do I even need to say it?

    LA made the mistake when they hired Ruud Gullit in thinking a former superstart was a lock for a great coach. Not everyone is Pep Guardiola. I pray USSF doesn’t fall for the “big name” trap.

  311. PD says:

    David Moyes

  312. Mat says:

    Anybody would have been better than Bornstein, who shouldn’t have been on the roster. Look, I agree that whomever we sent out would have been abused, but I’d rather get some players we can use later (Ream/Edu/Spector) some big-game experience than to trot out a guy that’s just out of his depth. The same can be said for including Wondo on the roster over a guys like Bunbury/Davies.

    Also, where was Brek Shea? Is he just not on the radar anymore?

  313. PD says:

    David Moyes

  314. Mat says:

    We may not have better talent to choose from, but that doesn’t mean we should keep picking a guy like Bornstein, who we know for a fact doesn’t have international-level talent. At least give someone else a shot. That’s how you uncover gems, like Adu. What happened to Jose Torres? Edgar Castillo? Brek Shea? Why did he bury Ream? At least give a guy like Ream a chance to redeem himself — we’re going to need him later in the cycle.

  315. PD says:

    van Basten or Dunga…

    or David Moyes.

  316. Vic says:

    This is not about one game but about where we’re heading. He has had more than enough time to build a program and instead we’re slipping in FIFA ratings and struggling to beat minnows in our region.

    It is well past time that US Soccer admitted that it’s made a big mistake and send him packing

  317. gabe says:

    Ives,

    You’ve mentioned a couple times now that you don’t think he should be fired for failing to win the gold cup. However, I think most fans think he should be fired for an overall disappointing performance at the gold cup and the need for a coach who can improve this team. If we had walked into the final, or at least played WELL in those groups games, and lost a hard-fought match, that is one thing.

  318. Mat says:

    What’s Bruno Metsu doing these days? That’s one cool-looking dude…

  319. Erik says:

    C’mon. national team coaches can make a world of difference: look no further than recent successful coaching changes at MEX, ARG, BRA. Now, I’m not saying there are Chicharitos, Messis, Neymars in the US player pool, the point is to maximize the talent on hand to provide better play (and results). I’m not sure BB is now getting the best out of our players: LD, Dempsey, Howard, and Holden have all played at a v high level in England. And this squad has shown that (on its best day) it can go toe-to-toe with the best. They should realistically be a Top 15 team, below the top tier, but capable of challenging them occasionally. it’s ok to lose to a promising MEX in the final, but it seemed like we could barely even get there. US should have no problem beating the other concacaf teams. Hanging onto 1-0 leads to scrape through- not encouraging.

    I think US soccer has gotten the best of BB, and after 1 WC cycle, it’s diminishing returns (we saw the same with Arena in ’06, and of course France & Italy in ’10). Perhaps a different coach might be able to continue to improve the team, inspire the players, and inject fresh energy. Surely the frequent slow/lethargic starts to games (requiring furious comebacks or late heroics) are at least partly down to the coach. What about losing 2-0 1st half leads? If we are supposed to be a scrappy defensive team, then park the bus if you have to! Why wasn’t either Jones/Bradley dropped in front of the back four to provide more cover when it became clear they were getting torched? Why can’t they hold a straight defensive line?

    Some Q’s to consider…
    Do you think BB is a good coach (not just for the US)?
    Where would he be coaching in club soccer?
    Is he is a good talent evaluator?

  320. skyman says:

    As I’ve read on here before, Brek Shea has absolutely 0 soccer IQ. Please leave him out of the pool. . .

  321. TheDon says:

    It is on the players but what if the players have issues with their coach? Who wants to risk speaking up and getting on coach’s bad side? There must be players who are as concerned about Bradleys next Clark or Bornstein move but have no voice in the matter. WE fans have to be the voice of reason that hopefully catches the ear or eye of our USSF president. WE DON”T LIKE LOSING! Damm even Guatemala held Mexico scoreless for a half and only lost by a goal. Honduras held them scoreless for a whole 90+ minutes.

  322. Dennis says:

    In pro sports, when the team’s results are not what the owners/fans expect, the answer is clear, replace the coach. It is too hard and too disruptive to replace all the players. OF course, it seldom has a positive impact and the new coach is usually canned even faster when he can’t do any better.

    One could argue that the teams in MLS who have had the greatest turnover in coaching have the poorest records. (Anyone with good statistics to prove me wrong?)

  323. time2cleanhouse says:

    Lets get Mark Cuban into Soccer and have him stir things up.

  324. NoMillionaire says:

    If the USSF is all about saving money how about hiring an Argentinian? I hear River Plate’s coach is looking for a new gig?

  325. DingDong says:

    I’m guessing you are being ironic asking this question.

  326. Tyler says:

    If you bring in a replacement for Gulati won’t they theoretically want their own man running the show?

  327. MiamiAl says:

    When you go up 2-0, and then drop 4 goals in a row, it can only be one thing- coaching!

  328. biff says:

    First, want to repeat that I am not a Klinssmann fanatic who thinks he is the only coach in the world to replace Bob Bradley. I think there are a lot of good world-class coaches who would love to have the USMNT job. But after watching the team against Spain and the Gold Cup, where they did not play well or with much fire and most of them looked bummed out, I gradually came to the conclusion that Klinssmann at this time is the best choice because…

    1) He loves the USA and he lives in the USA, would not take the job just for money.

    2) He closely follows USA soccer and has a deep knowledge of the players.

    3) He is smart and one of Germany’s top players ever and coached the team to the semi-final of WC2006–he would have the respect of all USA players.

    4) Klinnsmann is not a hot-headed loudmouth who alienates sensitive soccer players with huge egos. He is a unifier, tough when he has to be, but nurturing at the same time.

    5) He is not too insecure to have top assistants, such as, as you mentioned, Jogi Loew. Have you ever looked closely at Bob Bradley’s assistants? How can our players take some of these guys seriously?

    6) In that vein, Klinnsmann could bring in top soccer people from Europe and Latin America as assistants, people who would never work under BB. He also could bring in a couple of young guys from the MLS, start grooming Americans to take over.

    7) Because of his German background and huge experience, Klinnsmann has the feel for soccer required by top world-class coaches.

    8) Klinnsmann has a true vision of what he would like to see the USA accomplish. Maybe he would fail at the group stage of WC2014, but in three years he would at least have the USA pointed in the right direction.

    9) He is media friendly, good on TV and in interviews. He can be a great spokesman and draw attention not only in the USA for soccer, but around the world.

    10) I have no doubt that if Klinnsmann led the USNMT against Germany, we could trust him 100% to do his best to kick the German teams bu–s. I guarantee you there are some coaches from soccer-loving countries that would, internally, have a very hard time trying to beat their home-country team. Klinnsmann, I think, would want to prove he can do it, especially against Jogi Loew.

    I am sure I have forgotten some points. Anyone want to help?

    As for FC Bayern Munich, they are difficult to live with and have fired a lot of coaches, the latest being Van Gaal who took them to the Champions League final last year and got a contact extension last autumn a few months later gone.

    So, yeah, I think Klinnsmann is a no-brainer. That said, if we can’t get him, I still think Bob Bradley has taken us as far as he can go and needs to step down. I think it would be wise for him to do it now, rather than try to hang on with a team that stayed loyal and kept their mouths shut for a long time but now is moving toward open revolt. It could get messy and embarrassing and lead to WC2014 qualification disaster if Bob stays on. Klinnsmann is ready, could take over next week.

  329. bob says:

    The nats have a pattern of starting sluggishly and falling behind at the start of the game, even with inferior competition. When they start well we have blown solid leads in important competitions. Even with all that we’ve done “pretty well”. To me this means the players as a group are capable but are suffering from inferior coaching – the players drive the result but the coach sets the framework and motivation.
    Bradley has done well in many ways but this pattern has to stop. It won’t be long before it gets tiresome enough for fans to start losing interest.
    It is time for a change.

  330. DC Josh says:

    How many American soccer players can he name? You can’t just bring in any international coach and expect better things. They have to understand our players and MLS.

  331. DC Josh says:

    The Kick Off is all about speculation. Don’t read too much into it. A lot of the headlines on that feature are hyperbole.

  332. DC Josh says:

    Firing Bob Bradley and bringing in a European coach won’t make us any better. The REAL problem is much deeper.

    1- The talent level of the players is not as high as the expectations of American soccer fanatics. I would guess that Bob Bradley is currently getting about 80% of full potential out of this squad. At the time of the Confederations Cup, he got 100% at times, such as leading Italy in the 1st half, destroying Egypt, beating one of the best teams ever 2-0, and then leading Brazil 2-0 at halftime. We’ve fallen ever since.

    2- Our core players in Bocanegra, Cherundolo, Donovan and Dempsey are over the hill, then there is a huge gap in experience. We need to groom the next generation: Bradley, Lichaj, Holden, Jozy, Adu, Ream, etc. and prepare them for 2014 and beyond.

    3- Where is the next group of youngsters? The U-20 squad is loaded with players in top European club academies, but until they break into the first team, we will be stuck with the current pool of USMNTeamers.

    The bottom line is, you can’t just put a band-aid on the mortal wound that is the USSF by changing the coach. So many other decisions need to be made, and it will take years for the quality of the player to catch up to the rapidly rising expectations of the fans.

  333. DC Josh says:

    EVERY coach has favorites. It is a fact. Walk into any locker room at any level in any sport, and the coach will have his favorites.

  334. Doug says:

    I believe Gulati should go as well. U.S. soccer needs a new philosophy and new plan of attack. The only progress shown since the country hosted the World Cup is Major League Soccer. The national team hasn’t significantly improved. It could be argued it’s actually gone backward.
    U.S. soccer needs a new scouting network for talent at the youth level and someone who carries enough cache that they can get these players to European academies (I know that there are visa issues with that, but this is pie in the sky thinking).
    U.S.-based players do well until they reach the 16-year-old stage. That’s when those in Europe began training as pros while our players go to college. The stagnation in skills from that point forward can’t be overcome.

  335. Keith G. says:

    I would only like to see Bradley go if we can get a coach like Klinsmann or Hiddink. Other whise I dont know of another American coach that has what it takes to lead this team farther then where Bradley has taken them.

  336. PD says:

    Without knowing a lot about how it actually happens in the USSF system, it seems like there are “developmental” coaches that focus on building and shaping the skill set of the players competing in the pool and there are “tactical/executional” coaches who focus on utilizing the player pool they have to the greatest effect though tactical decisions.

    While every coach deals with both of these elements to a degree, it seems to me that in an ideal world the closer you get to a Senior Men’s team the more a coach should be focused on the tactical, not the developmental side. In that case a coach like a Mourinho or Ancellotti (not saying these are appropriate candidates for USMNT, just using them because they fill the archetype) would be ideal.

    HOWEVER, when your senior team is still riddled with players that have a wooden first touch, suspect passing skills and positional awareness, you have to consider that a master tactician might not be the greatest choice for your pool, but rather someone that will continue to emphasize development. I think that is why coaches like Arena and Bradley have been effective thus far, because they are 50/50 coaches–even though that has had it’s limitations. That’s not their fault, it’s what the player pool needed/needs. You can have the greatest strategist in the world, but if your players don’t or can’t execute then you’re not gonna get far (look at Real Madrid v Barcelona at the beginning of last season).

    I don’t know enough about Hiddink to know which side he gravitates toward, but it seems like a van Basten or Pereria might be good models to pursue. Or David Moyes. :0)

    Ding Dong is on to something: The USSF is committed to growing the entire sport–not just players, but refs, infrastructure, profitability AND coaches. In sports, we tend to not tolerate a learning curve for coaches, especially while they are on the job, but if US coaching is to improve (and our coaching pool is not getting calls from major clubs to serve as assistants) what is our alternative?Bradley has learned a lot on the job and his growth has been of immense help to the US coaching pool.

    Growth is not easy (they don’t call them “growing pains” for nothing). While big victories help, growth is so much more than just winning big games and let’s be honest, the USMNT has won some big games over the past three years. But up or down, the trend is moving steadily upwards. I say this only in my own opinion in having been a follower of US Soccer since 1994. I think everyone would agree that USSF is in a very different place; it is not “same as it ever was”.

  337. John says:

    9 Blood? Is that a PED?

  338. jb11 says:

    I honestly don’t understand how people can say that the US Player Pool is the reason BB failed!! This has to be a joke, as the US has many, many good young players…especially abroad! It boggles my mind how BB left Zak Whitbred out? He started for Norwich at central defender, and led them to premiership promotion! Then he leaves out Diskeruud, Simek, Davies, Bunbury, Torres, Starikov, etc….There are many other good young Americans playing throughout the world that BB could have chosen from. The fact is USSF, BB, Sunil need to open there eyes focus on improving the quality of player and style of play before real gains can be made! A fresh new pair of eyes is needed, one with the tactical accumen and scouting prowess to take the USMNT to the next level!

  339. Wicked_1 says:

    He’s done ok, but their has been no progress under him. He doesn’t pick players he should be picking. He always calls in the same players, even when he shouldn’t . I felt he shouldn’t have been rehired after the World Cup. Losing 2-0 leads, in Finals, has to say & show something. I also think we need a foreigner, someone with a different football mentality

  340. ThaDeuce says:

    I voted the top choice, but I’m a realist. Our team isn’t as talented as Mexico, but under Bob, we often outperform better teams.

  341. Luis says:

    I think its time for a change… I personally follow Mexico soccer more, because its what I have always been following since a kid… Anyway, Mexico had the same problem in the past, having a coach that always picked the same players. They brought in a new coach that was willing to give new young talent a try and the team has roared up in FIFA world rankings. I think its time for the bradly’s to go. Just my thoughts. That said, I think Bradly did a good job in the previous years with what he had. US soccer now has much more talent, and its time to push it up a notch.

  342. caerbannogfc says:

    well… The two attacking outside backs finally seemed to be clicking with Bradley and Jones dropping back and Dolo / Lichaj capable of making runs out wide. That was truly impressive, even if we couldn’t finish our chances. It was a proper system, almost, some type of plan going forward.

    He did cut clark (eventually) and (eventually) realized Onyewu wasn’t in form or likely to ever be in form again. He (eventually) got Bedoya on the field and even starting. He allowed diskerud to play in some friendlies that hopefully have paved the way for future inclusion. He’s kept rightfully faithful to Altidore and Adu when all of Europe seems to think little of them. He (eventually) got Lichaj in the starting xi.

    I like the guy. There are many things he has done well. but the Bornstein inclusion and substitution was simply delusional. really, it was that bad. it was. it was that bad. My exact words were, “this is a nightmare scenario.” If we can get a signed statement that legally prohibits Bradley from including Borstein in any future lineup I say let him have another wc run.

  343. Jmarsfauxbel says:

    Dempsey and Chicharito are different kinds of players. But with the opportunities that Chicharito gets playing solo for man u, i really wonder how many goals Dempsey may have scored wearing red. Furthermore, there is very good chance this caparson will be easier to determine if Dempsey gets transfered.

  344. Joamiq says:

    Chicharito is 5 years younger than Dempsey. He’s scored 21 goals in 29 games for Mexico when he mostly wasn’t playing solo. There’s no comparison. I love Clint, but at age 23 Chicharito is already a more impactful player than him. There’s really not much of a comparison.

  345. Wicked_1 says:

    Most of the midfield will be there: Lando, Dempssey, Bradley, Jones, Edu, Bedoya. But some other selections were suspect. Bedoya should have been in the initial squad, I like Diskeruud too. The Defense is what needs a revamp, Boca & Cherundolo are old, and the other positions are up for grabs, with it looking like Onyewu is on a downward spiral,hahaha. Omar Gonzalez should have been called in instead of Ream, Sean Franklin needs to get a look at RB and we NEED a LB, Boca isn’t a LB and Bornstein is trash.

  346. tricorythides@gmail.com says:

    Bob Bradley’s time has come and gone. He has show repeatedly that he is more concerned about his loyalty to sub-par players (e.g., Jonathan Bornstein) that he coached in MLS than in winning soccer matches. At this level, there is no room for shamelessly and thoughtlessly maintaining loyalty to players that are simply not good enough. We need a coach who is a true professional and whose intent is to play the best players that the US can field with an eye on winning, every single game. The choice for a new head coach for the US Men’s National Team should be either Jurgen Klinsmann or Hans Backe. Either would make wonderful coaches.