Jones delivers star performance in USA win

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By FRANCO PANIZO

WASHINGTON D.C. – Even before Jermaine Jones officially joined the U.S. men's national team, much was expected of him. An upgrade in technical ability, an enforcer, a never-ending motor, and nastiness that few in the pool could lay claim to were just some of the things Jones was expected to bring to the table.

Jones hasn't always been able to combine those well since making his U.S. debut in October of last year, but on Sunday night at RFK Stadium he brought all of that. And then some.

Playing in his ninth game for the U.S. team, Jones put forth his most complete performance for head coach Bob Bradley in a 2-0 quarterfinals victory over undefeated Jamaica. That Jones scored his first ever goal in a U.S. jersey, the first of the two American tallies, was just an added benefit in a dominating display from a player that is still adapting to his new surroundings on the international stage.

"We've seen in recent games that the understanding in the center of the field with Jermaine and Michael (Bradley) has been good," said Bob Bradley. "In different moments you see each one on the move, the other one thinking about cover.

"This way also plays into, on certain days, when we're starting to play out of the back, who is getting the ball deeper and that kind of thing. Certainly, Jermaine has a good engine and has the ability in certain moments to get forward and be a threat and that was nice to see."

Along with helping stymie a Jamaican side full of world class pace with timely tackles, Jones had two standout offensive moments where he got forward well, and both ended up being vital parts in the game.

In the 49th minute, after Jermaine Taylor headed a ball out of the penalty area, Jones raced onto the ball and hit a volley that deflected off of Taylor and into the back of the net. The goal sent Jones and the Americans into a frenzy, and Jones celebrated the goal with a salute.

The second time came 18 minutes later when Jones raced onto a loose ball near midfield, kicked it into high gear and looked to be free on goal before Taylor nipped him from behind, earning the Jamaican defender a red card. Jones clearly embelished the foul but there was contact, and Taylor's ejection gave the Americans a man-advantage that helped Clint Dempsey score an 80th-minute insurance goal.

Those two plays by Jones, combined with the rest of his strong showing, earned him Man of the Match as voted on by media members in attendance, meaning Jones would have to, by rule, talk to the media following the game. It was one of – if not the – first times Jones spoke to the media during this past month, as he has turned down interview requests unless they're conducted in German or with a translator.

"The first time you score with the national team is always special," said Jones about his goal through Steve Cherundolo, who translated Jones' response from German to English. "Most of all it was a very important goal for us tonight."

As strong as Jones' game was on Sunday, it wasn't flawless. On one instance in the first half, Jones missed a would-be goal as he slipped when anxiously trying to knock in a rebound from close range, resulting in the ball hitting off his knee and rolling out of bounds. The other was when his temperament got the best of him; he drew a yellow card for an unneccesary frustration foul in the Reggae Boyz's own half with the Jamaican attacker facing away from goal.

Jones will have to be wary in the semifinals not to pick up another card or he'll miss the final, assuming the United States gets that far.

But that fearlessness is part of what Jones' teammates like about him.

"He's one of the midfielders that's not afraid to lose the ball and take chances," said Juan Agudelo, who shares the common theme of relative newcomer to the U.S. team with Jones despite the age difference between them. "On long balls he's always looking forward and that's great as a forward because some midfielders lack looking forward and taking chances on through balls. I really enjoy playing with him."

That's probably the case for the rest of the U.S. team as well, especially after he produced his most complete performance to date on Sunday.

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130 Responses to Jones delivers star performance in USA win

  1. DeLarge says:

    Awesome job from Germany Jones. Hopefully Timmy Chandler sees how well he’s coming along and jumps on the gravy train for the Olympics.

  2. pancholama says:

    I predicted US would win, 3-1, dominate the mid-field, defend cohesively and find their goal scoring touch.

    You get the feeling that there is now a team character, a feeling amongst a developing core of new Nat Team stalwarts that promises well for the future.

    And moreover congratulations to Jermaine – “Das ist wundebah, sup-pah! Jawohl mein capitein! Die augen lugen nicht!”

    Keep up the strong work – welcome home!

  3. KMac says:

    Great piece Ives – really enjoyed it!

  4. TomM says:

    What is the name for the dialect that Bob Bradley speaks?

  5. BellusLudas says:

    Jones performance over the last two matches have made me stop missing Pablo.

    It will be interesting to see if having Jones sit in a bit and play deeper will help MB’s development as an attacking player. He seemed a bit lost to me in the last match…hoping for better against Panama.

  6. Assapopolous. says:

    Keep the 4-5-1, I think thats what they should be playing. Good to see the boys shine bright, granted it was Jamaica (who did have a decent tournament) this will hopefully be a big confidence booster. They’ll need to play like this to defeat Panama on Wednesday. Landon has been M.I.A. for the last few games……

  7. Taylor says:

    people are really knocking on him for diving, but i saw the slo mo replay and he definitely gets his heel caught. yes, he certainly embellished it, but it’s one of those knicks that knocks you off balance and screws up your run but won’t knock you down, and won’t be called a foul if you try and stay up. there’s really no point to try and keep your balance and get the ball when the only thing that will happen is the keeper gets possession. the Jamaican player didn’t even protest the call cause he knew he caught him and he was the last man

  8. KenC says:

    Jah, zuppah!

  9. Assapopolous. says:

    I alaways knew it was going to be a MEX vs USA final(they’d generate the most money for CONCACAF), they’ll need to be able to shut down Mexico’s fairly quick attack. Chicharito’s no good without good service.

  10. Assapopolous. says:

    sorry “always”……..

  11. Mark says:

    Jones seems to speak decent English in the studio 90/behind the crest videos. Strange but kind of neat that he would use Steve as a translator. Proud we are showing that there are multilingual Americans out there.

  12. Assapopolous says:

    I know right, most Americans don’t know anything, nevermind different languages.

  13. Drew says:

    Jermaine played well but still missing Stu Holden after an amazing year at Bolton in the center midfield.

  14. Kenny_B says:

    It is a variation of political speech. It’s characterized by changing thought mid-stream, sometimes more than once, allowing the speaker to appear to answer a question while actually providing no substance.

    The listener is so verbally bludgeoned that they lose any desire to find out the actual answer to their question.

  15. John says:

    my guess is he’s not quite comfortable doing quick media requests where he has to give an answer real fast in english and watch to make sure what he’s saying is what he actually wants to say since it’s going out on print.

  16. STX81 says:

    Franco Panizo wrote this piece. Anyways I agree, Great job guys!

  17. Pangloss says:

    Spot on.

  18. Larth Gagerway says:

    Not a good dive, nothing to celebrate or justify there.

    It was almost as bad as Chuck Davies tumbling routine against RSL last week.

    Pontius is a better player than Charlie Davies. That’s who Bob should be looking at instead.

  19. The Sir says:

    Lol what?

  20. Sam Nishi says:

    Just imagine if we had a healthy JJ in South Africa last year?!

    The knock-out phase set up perfectly (and weakly) for a deep run by the USA and if JJ could have helped out with the Clark/Edu shuffle, we might have been around for the final weekend .. .. Maybe .. ..

    Either way, it’s been worth the wait for JJ and now if we can just finish our chances .. ..

  21. stevePDX says:

    I’d donate a kidney to see Jones paired up in central midfield with a healthy Stuart Holden.

  22. Assapopolous says:

    Edu should’ve started not Ricardo.

  23. KC says:

    Are we celebrating cheaters and divers now?

  24. PetedeLA says:

    I don’t know the relationship between Stevie and Jermaine, but I know from past interviews in German that Stevie not only speaks excellent German, but actually speaks with a slight Hessisch (the dialect of the people the region around Frankfurt)accent.

    I can imagine that if Stevie wasn’t around he might feel compelled to bite the bullet and do the interview on his own in English.

  25. wildchild says:

    hey copper, hands up! you’re under arrest!

  26. PetedeLA says:

    Point being, Jermaine probably feels especially comfortable having Stevie do the interpreting.

  27. Dominic says:

    No way did he get clipped. If he had the fall would not have started at least 5 yards beyond where the Jamaican player was. It was an atrocious dive. This blog would have been better if it had just admitted we have a cheater in our ranks. Rather than try and eulogize over him.

  28. Joe Torre says:

    Looked to me like JJ was favoring possibly a groin at his exit from the match. Any word on that condition?

    also…

    Could this have been our first victory, and fewest yellow cards, in recent memory under Mexican officiating?

  29. RB says:

    Really to what part? Replays domclearly show that Taylor’s knee clipped Jones on the trailing heel.

  30. Jeremy says:

    I really thought Dracula was going to somehow manage to screw us over.

  31. RB says:

    Again, replays clearly show Taylor did clip Jones on his trailing heel. This is not in dispute — somebody showed it to us yesterday right after the game.

    Not saying he didn’t embellish or whatever, but the article here is correct: there was contact.

  32. I am a born and bred Blackburn Rovers fan living now in the USA. I have been watching Jones closely and I am afraid I am not that impressed. He doesn’t seem to actually produce much. He has a very strange passing technique, kind of stubby kind of pass. He scored a decent goal albeit with a deflection. I think he is just a journeyman kind of player. I hope that Rovers letnhim go back to Schalke, we could get more for our money.

  33. RB says:

    Here’s that replay link from the other day. Not superb quality but quite clear. You can even see the pressure on the shoe at the heel.

    link to youtube.com

  34. kawininjazx7@yahoo.com says:

    I like his hustle on defense but that dive was classless. I hate to see players dive like that without any contact whats so ever. Dude should be suspended for the next game.

  35. Ben says:

    no it really doesn’t. zero contact there. we’re better than that.

  36. Roberto says:

    yes I am!! if you don’t like it go watch womens soccer at a prep school or a kids soccer. I’m tired of the whiners about diving in this site.

  37. Ricky B. Free says:

    The Jamaica player got the red because he tried to make a tackle and Jones went down easy. The ref was blocked by the Jamaican player.

    The jamaican player didnt even argue the call. But the high and mighty posters from SBI are judging Jones.

  38. Roberto says:

    Just like I said to the other poster, If you don’t like diving go watch Women’s soccer this sport is not for you

  39. Roberto says:

    Another obsessed poster here about diving… Have you considered switching over to women’s soccer? You are actually suggesting that one of the best players for your Nats gets suspended? you clearly have issues and have not watched the sport for long. Maybe you should try golf or cricket…this sport is not for you bro

  40. Jason says:

    Not sure he’s a better player, but would definitely like to see him and Geoff Cameron in camp.

  41. Atletico Man says:

    Ben, there’s another angle out there (it was posted on this blog yesterday) that clearly shows the contact. I know, I know, I watched Univision, too, and thought like you do. Find this other video, though, it’s quite convincing. Jones sold it well, but there was definitely contact and it’s a clear card.

  42. RB says:

    Try again:

    link to youtube.com

    Must be some kinda force field making the depression on Jones’ boot.

    OTOH, if you’re sure there was no contact there, you may have a future in refereeing.

  43. Daniel in the ATL says:

    Jones’ overall performance was quite good, though the his dive was disturbing regardless of the advantage it created. I am sure that Jones is not the first U.S. player to take a dive and he certainly won’t be the last. However, I hope we aspire to higher standards as a soccer nation than diving and feigning injury in order to elicit cards from the ref. Frankly, I would prefer to win games legitimately or loose them with dignity than win because we managed to trick the ref.

    Ultimately, this problem should be dealt with by FIFA. Games should be reviewed after the fact and players that take dives and fake injuries should be punished.

  44. KC says:

    Why would he argue the call? In the three years that you’ve been following soccer have you ever seen a call be changed because somebody complained to the referee? Exactly!!!
    He know they were losing and decided no to waste any more time complaining to the referee.
    JONES DIVED!!!
    The guy is a freaking disgrace for our team. First he takes off his jersey and throws it to the GROUND and then he embarrass us with a pathetic dive. I rather lose with honor and dignity than win with Jones on my team.

  45. Adam M. says:

    If you think Jones dove because he didn’t get clipped, you are demonstrably wrong and are either ignorant of the true facts, indisputable video evidence and non-complaining offender, intentionally obnoxious, or both. If you think Jones dove because he embellished the foul with the intent to draw a call, you are probably right. However, it does not change the fact that Jones was fouled and was the “last man.” If Jones had drifted to the earth like a snowflake succumbing to its fate, it still would have been a red card. And if Jones had managed to keep his feet and didn’t get the call, chances are the complaining would have been about the ref or Jones’ failure to fall like a clocked pig in an Angry Birds game. As for the play, I’ve been to good bars that are worse dives that that.

  46. Tank Missle says:

    Doesn’t matter because he went “Andre the Giant” on the first goal so….. Who the F#%k cares we won and given the chance any other team would’ve done the same, we have to Sh** othe rest of the competition to win including Mex.

  47. kenlynn says:

    Enough with the “how about you watch women’s soccer” comments. The women’s game is just as physical with the added benefit of only half as much flopping around on the ground after a dive as the men. I love watching our boys play as much as anyone, but there is no need to rip on the women’s sport in an effort to defend Jones.

    link to youtu.be

  48. RB says:

    Well said, sir, all around.

  49. gabe says:

    come on, guys. he got clipped, yes, but went down a bit posthumously. It was the right call, the right card, and the play was just…but he could have stayed on his feet and he DID make a dive a few steps after contact. call a spaid a spaid. That said, he I think the result was fair and I don’t think Jermaine did anything wrong, per say.

  50. KNPonder says:

    +2. I am missing something here. Some of the posters above call Jones a “disgrace” and “we are better than that”. Who appointed you (or the US for that matter) as the soccer moral police? What “standard” are we trying to uphold? Please point out any country that looks up to us in soccer . . . for any reason. I have yet to hear from any foreign person “Oh, I respect the US because they don’t act or dive”. Never happened and never going to happen. Truth is, Jones got clipped – if you can’t see it, well, you are just ignoring the truth. Don’t call the guy a “disgrace”. If you want to call someone a “disgrace” – save it for that Portillo guy for Honduras, far more deserving.

  51. Jerome says:

    best US player me thinks with dempsey

  52. Jerome says:

    a Jones-Holden midfield looks good.

  53. LoS says:

    welcome to the DIVE club guys….. good job jermaine.

  54. Jayrod says:

    Agreed, quit whining here, it is part of the game!! in hockey and other sports it is not. Just look how the Vancouver Canucks and Montreal Canadians are looked at!! Diving cheaters. I applaud Jones for it as it secured our victory!!!!

  55. Seriously says:

    I hope to see them both in the midfield at the same time as well. Same formation as the Jamaica game except the five man midfield is Donovan, Bradley, Holden, Jones, Dempsey and keep Agudelo up top because I think he plays in this style better than Jozy. Then at the back we have Lichaj, Boca, Goodson, and Chandler hopefully but if not then Dolo. That to me is putting all of our best players on the field at once and we can boss the midfield this way. Our mids score more than our forwards anyway so why not load it up.

  56. Spade? For a second there, I was afraid that spaid was the past tense of spay (Yikes!)

  57. Kevin_Amold says:

    Hmmm, if you substitute the word Mexican, Russian, Greek, Chinese, or Indian for American, you get labeled (correctly) as a bigot.

    Yet when the word is “American”, crickets….

  58. Kevin_Amold says:

    Yes. I used to love moral highground for things like this, but that doesn’t win matches. At this rate, I’d rather win than be above doing something the everyone else does, albeit at usually a much higher rate than we do.

  59. Jeremy says:

    Maybe he was just trying to fit in with Bedoya. At least there was some contact when Jones went down. Bedoya got carded earlier in the tournament for his blatant dive, yet people like you are only targeting Jones. Do you not have anything better to do than to find something to bitch about? Can’t you just be happy we won and advanced?

  60. Paul Thomas says:

    Wait. Let me see if I get this straight.

    If you don’t like pretending to be hurt and rolling around in mock agony, or pratfalls that would make Buster Keaton envious, go watch WOMEN’S soccer.

    I always thought it was supposed to be (in the stereotype, anyway) women who were the crybaby wimps. Now we have to look to women to actually play like, you know, men?

    Jones should have been yellow-carded for that ridiculous display, and coupled with the idiotic earlier yellow, sent off.

  61. Paul Thomas says:

    The red card was correct, yes. The Jamaican player was properly sent off.

    What was NOT correct was the failure to yellow-card Jones (and, because it was his second yellow, send him off as well) for unsporting behavior. The game should have been 10 v 10 for the duration.

  62. Paul Thomas says:

    Uh, if you’ve never heard someone say they respect the US because they don’t dive, you haven’t watched many games. Plenty of people have referred to the US team as a positive example of sportsmanship in a sport riddled by cheating and cynical behavior.

  63. KC says:

    Jones, Bedoya and Davies…..Gold, Silver and Bronze diving medals in the next Olympics. They’ll make America proud.

  64. Primoone says:

    Dive-whiners are out of their F-ing minds. Get over it…everyone giving the “holier than thou” lip service needs to play the sport competatively before they sit on a couch and complain about how it ruins or cheapens the sport. There is a difference between getting contact on a shoulder shove(then diving) and getting contact on a tackle from behind (which is a bookable offense). Cardinal sins…give up possession in your own half…and be the last man to foul the oponent. 9 out of 10 players in the best leagues would have gone down.

    That one player that doesnt go down is Messi because God would actually send Angels to carry him into the 18.

  65. JCC says:

    Amen. The ends justifies the means in my book. I could care less if the team wants to roll around for 10 minutes to secure a win. A win is a win. Period.

  66. KNPonder says:

    While it is not as prevalent in US Soccer as it is in other teams, US players do dive. The current team has several players who have dived in this tournament (one got a card for it!). If you leave out the dive part, I will agree whole heartedly with your comment. I give the US guys props for not rolling on the ground faking an injury or pulling a Portillo (bad Sonny Liston impression). I do agree that our resistance to acting is something that we can take pride in and is representative of our sportsmanship; however, we need to get off the moral high ground on diving. We do it and we will continue to do it. We currently have (and are continually adding) more and more players from diverse backgrounds where diving is not only accepted, but practiced. I ask other posters if they have venom for Jones and his “diving”, then be consistent and call Dempsey a “disgrace” the next time he does it.

  67. PetedeLA says:

    I like Blackburn so I understand what you mean about Jone’s performance so far.

    But let’s be clear about a few things.

    Bundesliga to Premiereship is a big step up.

    Give him time to get more accustomed to the pace and the technical level.

    As far as journeyman– I strongly disagree.

    He was captain at Frankfurt.

    He was all set up to be captain at Schalke, but injuries slowed him down.

    Then he got into some kind of tiff with Felix Magath (not uncommon by any means). And that hastened his move to greener pastures.

    I’m sure Schalke will be happy to have him back. I don’t think Rangnick has a problem with him.

  68. Adam M. says:

    Have you ever seen a yellow card given to the victim of a red card foul? Have you ever seen a card given for diving (or flailing or whatever) to a player that was, in fact, fouled? Have you ever seen a card given to a fouled player who did nothing in turn to any opponent?

  69. GigG says:

    I remember not long ago when players that dived were despised in America…..now they are national heroes.

  70. Jon From Chicago says:

    Reading all these posts on how Jones is a cheater reminded me why I hate most of you on here…a bunch of soccer snobs. waaaah waaahh. Hes a diver. He cheated. The Jamaican tackled from behind. Jones had no one in between him and goal. THERE WAS CONTACT (which can’t be debated at this point) Embelish? Sure. But don’t act like this is the 1st time that has happend. The ref made the right call, the Jamaican knew it, Jones embelished which is fine by me, and most importantly he had a hell of a game AND WE WON!

  71. PanchoMiguelMoralesdeConejo says:

    Yes, really.

    This clip is a better clip of the action

    link to youtube.com

    35 seconds in.

  72. Ian says:

    I watched this in 1/15th speed (of the already slow-motion replay on the broadcast) on my DVR and without a doubt there’s contact, and as noted at full speed it’s definitely enough to throw off his balance. I guess people are missing it as there’s one step before he goes down..anyway, definitely contact. ZERO argument from Jamaica either.

    Have to agree with the idea that you should be a ref. You’ve got a knack for missing things. I’m guessing we were onside on the later play w/ Donovan and Kljestan too?

  73. Jermaine Jones's Mother says:

    It is obvious that the chief reason the same handful of posters keep getting on every thread and clamoring about a disgraceful dive, but are then either too ignorant or lazy or both to watch the replay that clearly shows contact, is because they hate Jermaine Jones. Period. They are the same idiots that talk about how he can’t pass, even though it was apparent from the very first half of the very first game he suited up for us that he has the best vision and the most dangerous long passing that the USMT has ever seen in a D-mid.

    Why do they hate the guy? I suspect the answer to that is the real disgrace.

  74. PanchoMiguelMoralesdeConejo says:

    Dude, he turned the fortunes of Blackburn around when he arrived…had you kept the same team intact, you would be playing in the Coca-Cola next year.

    You should thank your stars that Blackburn managed to pry him away from Schalke for the 1/2 season, ‘stubby kinda passes’ or no.

  75. PanchoMiguelMoralesdeConejo says:

    See 35 seconds in…if you still think it is a dive….then I don’t know what to say.

    link to youtube.com

    embellishment? maybe. Dive? no.

  76. GigG says:

    Well, congratulations on the win. If we keep developing like this we should be tossing bags of piss from the stands in no time.

  77. PanchoMiguelMoralesdeConejo says:

    I’m putting this link so that those readers can see the video evidence of the ‘clip’

    link to youtube.com

    35 seconds in.

    Then think of yourself running at that speed and what would happen if you were similarly clipped. Could he have regained his balance..? maybe. (could you?) But the clip was a foul and as the last man back on a breakaway a red card. Good Call. Good play

  78. NF says:

    Yes, anyone could have kept their balance there.He looks like friggin’ Qwop in that video.

    If someone taps you on the shoulder and you jump back 3 feet, it’s a dive even if there’s contact.

  79. Rob says:

    I think the fact that the replay shows clear contact, and the Jamaican player just walked off, knowing he made contact, shows it wasn’t a dive. Now did Jones embellish a bit, yes. Call was correct, and it feels good to get a call like that, when so many go against the US.

  80. Mario says:

    Go ahead be my guest. We are much tougher, and have much more common sense than the “mighty” Americans give us credit for. By us I mean us Mexicans! Find me anywhere a more blatant dive than Jones’s from a Mexican player in an official tournament…I dare you!

    And your comment would pass as funny if it weren’t for the fact that you were gifted by a Mexican ref with what the large majority here think was a correct call, which enabled the US to dominate Jamaica towards the end and score a second goal to be in the semis.

    If it would’ve been the other way around you probably would’ve hated it also, and if it would’ve been a Mexican player and an American ref in that situation, I can’t imagine what the comments would be.

    Get off your high horse, holier than thou attitude that the whole world despises. It’s just a big F-A-R-S-E!

  81. Rob says:

    Common the real problem is that a German is on our team….

    The guys father served the country, I have no clue why the same posters that defended M Bradley when he was getting bashed turn around and attack Jones. Thats the real disgrace.

  82. Rob says:

    ‘That one player that doesnt go down is Messi because God would actually send Angels to carry him into the 18′

    Way too funny, and true. The rules of gravity don’t apply to Messi.

  83. Maxwell says:

    Come. on.

    A clear dive. He went down because he completely overhit the ball on the break and knew he wouldn’t catch up.

    Not hating on Jones, but let’s call a duck a duck.

  84. Turgid Jacobian says:

    If one doesn’t “go down” “posthumously” then one is a zombie. Hopefully real zombies are fast, not like those Romero zombies.

  85. Maxwell says:

    I think you mean F-A-R-C-E.

    I have nothing against Jones or Mexico. But that was a dive. The existence of contact does not rule out the possibility of a dive dive, it’s whether there was contact sufficient to bring a player down. This can be a tricky question in many circumstances, as players differ in balance, but this was a clear cut dive. Watch the video – how Jones falls is so unnatural in relation to his momentum. What’s also clear is that he dives only after he has overhit the ball. The ref bailed Jones and the USA out. I don’t think this would necessarily have changed the outcome of the game, and I don’t think Jones is the only player who would have dived in that situation, but it does not sit well with me when my team wins and a player on it dives.

    To think of it another way, imagine two players are running shoulder to shoulder and one goes down. There is contact, and a player went down, but that does not mean it was not a dive.

  86. Josh says:

    I disagree; at top speed it can go either way. FWIW, I like to think I would’ve kept my footing, and I do think Jones embellished, but contact at that speed can trip you up, and there WAS legit contact.

    This certainly wasn’t Luis Hernandez in the ’02 WC or Davies last weekend.

  87. Paul Thomas says:

    I know it was a foul. Read the rest of the thread. The red card was correct.

    Nothing in the above prevents the referee from handing out a separate card for unsporting behavior.

  88. Josh says:

    +1. And moreover, even if Jones embellished, he didn’t pretend to have been shot in the face or anything like that. He went down and sat up asking for the call. He didn’t pretend like the defender went after him maliciously.

  89. GigG says:

    exactly. just because there was contact in the first half it doesn’t mean you get to fall down in the second.
    Jones took a few steps before deciding to take a dive.

  90. Paul Thomas says:

    Dude, what part of “diving is a joke and should be carded” implies anything about “but only if they’re not a USMNT stalwart”?

    Anyone who dives should be punished for it. I mean, isn’t this pretty obvious given the fact that I, a fan of the US team, am here saying that a US player should have been carded for it? Yes, it is a disgrace every time it happens. I’ve been disgusted by Dempsey doing it on multiple occasions.

    Taking the “moral high ground” wouldn’t be necessary if FIFA and its referees would actually enforce the frickin’ rules of the game.

    (And that applies to fake injuries, too. That problem would EASILY be solved if the fourth official actually kept track of time lost to play stoppages, like he’s, you know, supposed to, and didn’t sit around for 90 minutes and then just pull whatever number he feels like out of his @$$ at the end of the game. Or if soccer woke up and did what every single other sport on the planet does, and didn’t run time off the clock during play stoppages.)

  91. Paul Thomas says:

    Not sure if I’ve ever seen it in soccer. I know I’ve seen matching penalties given for a foul and for diving in hockey, though. And I approve of that practice.

    In any case, I’m really not sure why the failure of referees to actually enforce the rules is an argument in favor of not enforcing them, as opposed to just a restatement of the is-ought fallacy (link to en.wikipedia.org) …

  92. marco says:

    There’s a possibility of a Jones vs Torrado clash in the final. Bring bandages.

  93. Jayrod says:

    Whatever the reason is… I was extatic to get this guy as I was always aware of his power seeing him with Shalke. Before his injury he was considered top 3 CDM in the Budesliga. He is just a step above anything we have seen here. What about all of those amazing runs during the game. Forza Jermaine Jones. A “World Class” talent!!!!

  94. Paul Thomas says:

    Uh, the reason why is that Michael Bradley was getting bashed based on unreasonably negative assessments of his play skill, whereas Jones is getting bashed based on assessments of his level of sportsmanship. I think his play skills are fine.

    The only way you could shoehorn this into some kind of prejudice angle is if you leap the logical chasm “diving = German, therefore anyone who hates diving must be anti-German.” Which is ludicrous, partly because it’s an implied slur on Germans who DON’T dive, but mostly because disliking a characteristic is not proof of prejudice just because it’s slightly more prevalent in one group than another.

    I don’t hate diving because I hate Germans, I hate diving because it turns soccer games into ridiculous farces decided primarily on histrionics and what the referee saw, and not on actual play skill.

  95. KNPonder says:

    You previously posted that US players “don’t dive” – perhaps you meant “have a reputation for diving” because clearly they do it as you acknowledge. The Dempsey comment was directed to “other posters”. I have no quarrel with those who are consistent. I do agree with your comments on FIFA’s reluctance to solve the problem when they could have easily done it a long time ago.

  96. Lil' Zeke says:

    How is someone who prefers straight-up, strength-on-strength fair play a whiner? I can’t tell you how whiney you sound with your “Oh he did not cheat, wah wah wah! Any anyway everybody cheats, wah wah wah!”

    But anyway KC, a lot of people think the defender did enough to unfairly foil a breakaway goalscoring opportunity, which would make it a red card regardless of JJ’s histrionics.

  97. Lil' Zeke says:

    Couldn’t agree less, I’m an American sports fan.

  98. Lil' Zeke says:

    Or better still Roberto go check out men’s diving… you might also enjoy their short-shorts

  99. RB says:

    ‘The only way you could shoehorn this into some kind of prejudice angle is if you leap the logical chasm “diving = German, therefore anyone who hates diving must be anti-German.” ‘

    Not at all. You only have to read through blogs like this one and see the various types of xenophobic comments made, including when referring to members of one’s own national team, for the idea to be plausible.

  100. PanchoMiguelMoralesdeConejo says:

    Perhaps I misunderstand the definition of a “dive”, (there is no such term in the “Official Laws”,so I’ll assume “Simulation” which in the interpretations, (link to fifa.com), states:” attempts to deceive the referee by feigning injury or pretending to have been fouled (simulation)”

    Since Jones WAS clipped, then there can be no simulation.

    So, in your opinion, what is the definition of a ‘dive’? An exaggerated movement?

    I say sign the “Jones is not a diver petition” and embrace that he was fouled, it was a goal scoring opportunity and thus a red-card offense and

  101. JM says:

    hahaha +1

  102. Seriously says:

    The fact that there was zero argument from Jamaica in itself lets you know that the player knew he had fouled him. Jones sold the crap out of it and before that nice replay that has been posted here twice I didn’t think there had been contact. Now I know there was contact and you can tell with the way the Jamaican player walks off with zero protest that he knew he fouled him.

  103. Brett says:

    Defender came in late, on the ground, from behind, made contact, did not win the ball, and Jones hit the ground. Dive or no dive, the ref had to show a card, and if its a last-man situation, the card has to be red.

  104. GigG says:

    …and a stretcher to carry Jones off the field after he dives

  105. abc says:

    “granted it was Jamaica”?

    This is the Gold Cup, Jamaica are one of the better teams! You could say “granted it was X” about every team that’s not the US or Mexico, and we can’t play against ourselves, so….

  106. Bigmeat says:

    Jones has done a great job. I just do not want him to get another yellow. We will need him in the final. If the U.S. gets a comfortable lead, sub for him early. Hopefully Honduras will tire Mexico out- win or lose. USA has better conditioning than Mexico. Those five-layer burritos Chicharito has been making for the team is going to slow the Mexican team down. By the way, I think Wado did Chico’s girlfirend.

  107. Diego says:

    Honduras beating Mexico is like Bolivia beating Argentina!

    Oh wait!-I think that actually happened recently!

  108. primoone says:

    +1

  109. primoone says:

    Round 2 for the jones haters…

    Man did u see the way jones played? I stii can’t believe how effective he was at stopping jamaica’s counters…man….jones passing out of the back was so simple yet brilliant! He hustled for every 50 50 ball ….man of the match performance…it was such a great moment that he saluted his father after he scored the goal…what a nice gesture. That move to rangers really was a godsent for the us team…playing time at rovers has him really sharp….

    Haters have been put on notice

  110. primoone says:

    * rovers

  111. Brendan says:

    Man I’m tired of seeing people defend that dive, and I say this as someone who believes that accusations of diving are thrown around WAY too easily these days. I hope the fan boys take a moment to think back on this the next time they’re accusing an opponent of cheating.

  112. Ber says:

    You forget who is coach…

  113. Duke says:

    Is this how they dive in Germany???

  114. Kevin says:

    I loathe diving, but I feel better after seeing the replay that showed contact. No, the contact didn’t cause the fall, but it absolutely was a foul. As a defender, you know the risk you take with that tackle. Either you get the ball clearly, or there will be consequences.

  115. primoone says:

    What dive? I saw what the official saw…and what a great official he was!

    +1 for chiqidracula

  116. Brian says:

    Just a question, I’m not from Germany but I speak decent German (took it in high school and my grandparents are from there) why would Steve speak with a Hessisch accent, when he’s been in Hannover his whole career? I thought Germans in Hannover were generally considered to speak Hochdeutsch (standard German) with no accent or regional dialect.

  117. Paul Thomas says:

    Feel free to point me to any “xenophobic” comments that I’ve made which would justify me basically being accused of ethnic prejudice… doubt you’ll find anything…

  118. AV_13 says:

    These people don’t understand man! Jones is probably the only player that can sign to a big team and get playing time. He’s only played 9 games and maybe 4 or 5 as a starter, so the day will come when people realize why a club like schalke wants him back. He’s our best CM (along with Holden) people just need to give him time time together used to playing with the USMNT.

  119. AV_13 says:

    To get*

  120. Annelid Gustator says:

    “To think of it another way, imagine two players are running shoulder to shoulder and one goes down. There is contact, and a player went down, but that does not mean it was not a dive.”

    Also not necessarily a foul. The actual situation to hand, however, fits all the definitions of a last-man foul.

  121. RB says:

    I didn’t say you said any such thing. You didn’t frame your comment in that personal way, you just referred to the logic of the point at issue. I responded on the same way.

  122. RB says:

    I didn’t say you said any such thing. You didn’t frame your comment in that personal way, you just referred to the logic of the point at issue. I responded on the same way.

  123. dan says:

    Jones can become our best player, I’d say he is already in the top 5. PLEASE I hope Timmy Chandler joins in, he would give us the real attacking threat from the wing back that we need.

    the future looks bright for US :) …Bradley i’m still iffy about, he is a good coach but is he good enough to win us a world cup? FINALLY trying a 4-2-3-1 worked, which i’ve been preaching forever, but it took him long enough to try it

  124. dan says:

    Brendan,

    You need to learn the definition of a dive and an embellishment.

    A. Was there contact on Jones? YES (this rules out dive, proceed to step B)

    B. Was the fall warranted on the type of tackle? Probably not (This then states he embellished his fall but he did not dive)

  125. terry143 says:

    Jermaine Jones reminds me of Felipe Melo. Some skill, but a destructive attitude and temperament. Jermaine Jones DID help the team in this game, but start him every game and he will burn you over and over.

  126. Americans against Diving says:

    If Blanco or any other Mexican player had flopped like Jones, we’d be up in arms calling him a cheat. As good of a games as Jones had, the fact is that he cheated in a way that directly affected the outcome of the game. The USMNT will lose support if we continue this kind of diving that we saw from Jones and Bedoya.

  127. PetedeLA says:

    I don’t get it either. You’re right on all counts.

    I’ve heard him in interviews and the accent is noticeable enough that both a friend (from northern Germany) and I noticed it pretty clearly.

    Maybe a good friend or tutor was from that region.

  128. Lil' Zeke says:

    Hate you right back weasel