Mid-Day Musings (Gold Cup thoughts, Davies’ Transfer and more)

Charlie Davies 2 (ISIphotos.com) 

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How wild was last night?

If you watched Mexico-Panama last night hoping to get some insight into the U.S. national team's biggest rival you were treated to a night filled with ugliness, absurdity and unintentional comedy. It was okay to laugh, but also okay to be angry.

Why angry when it was Mexico, and its fans, who were left looking silly? Anytime fan violence takes place at soccer games in this country it just adds more ammo to the soccer haters who love any chance they get to ridicule the sport. As much as you may have wanted to laugh at the mayhem at Reliant Stadium, that amusement came at the cost of some respectability for the sport of soccer.

What did I think of Aguirre's Rockette impression? I think it was foolish but not vicious or really intentional. I know U.S. fans want to pile on but I think Aguirre was just guilty of a clumsy late challenge that even Pablo Mastroeni would have considered poor (okay, so not everyone got this joke. Listen, Aguirre thought the ball was dead and put his leg in, Phillips ran into him and that's pretty much it. Aguirre was dumb for being so close to the field and the referee was dumber for giving Ricardo Phillips a red card).

So what else is going on? Here are some other news tidbits, observations and notes to consider as we get through Friday:

The Charlie Davies transfer saga is finally over (we think). First, L'Equipe reported the deal was done, then Davies denied that it was done via Twitter, but now Sochaux has announced that the transfer is done pending a physical. If it is done this time, then that's good news, although it could mean the end of Davies' Gold Cup participation.

Red Bulls fans can't be happy about hearing that the club wants to sign hot-shot U.S. Under-20 prospect Dilly Duka but were rejected by MLS. The New York Post reported on Thursday that the club tried to sign him but were denied by MLS. So what's the story? The word I've gotten is that the Red Bulls have been denied Duka because he wasn't an official academy player before attending Rutgers (he is now a member of the Red Bulls Under-20 team). Teams must have contact The rule is in place to keep MLS teams from raiding area colleges of young talent and claiming them through their youth systems. So basically, even though the Red Bulls are ready to sign Duka, and he sounds very interested in signing with the Red Bulls, it won't happen.

Let's keep it on the subject on Generation adidas. If you're hoping for your team to sign one of its youth academy players to a Generation adidas contract you may have to wait a while. I'm hearing that the funds used to pay for Generation adidas players are tightand MLS isn't going to approve any new players unless it is a truly special player. Is the lack of funding recession-related, or just a case of MLS having already signed its share of players to Generation adidas contract? Who knows, but it is becoming more and more absurd how many obstacles stand in the way of MLS teams landing quality young talent.

My ESPN story on the U.S. team's first two Gold Cup matches should be up later today so keep an eye out for that. Among the topics is Freddy Adu, who had a disappointing Gold Cup to say the least. As much as he deserves criticism, he also shouldn't be written off. He's 20 and is still a very skillful player. He just needs games and without games his form will continue to diminish. I said it months ago, and say it again, Adu needs to consider a league like Denmark or Belgium, where he could potentially find a starting role. It isn't as glamorous as France or Portugal, but he needs the experience. You need only look at Benny Feilhaber as someone who benefited from a move to a smaller European league.

That's all for now. Feel free to share your thoughts on any of these subjects in the comments section below.

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112 Responses to Mid-Day Musings (Gold Cup thoughts, Davies’ Transfer and more)

  1. inkedAG says:

    I’m sure if LA Galaxy had the same issues as RBNY does with Duka, a player would be inking a contract….

  2. KP says:

    “I know U.S. fans want to pile on but I think Aguirre was just guilty of a clumsy late challenge that even Pablo Mastroeni would have considered poor.”

    A clumsy late challenge? Hello, he wasn’t a field player – he was the coach. Nothing in the rules allow a coach to do what he did…he should be banned from the touch line for at least a game or two.

  3. cbr says:

    go ahead and keep expanding….water down the talent pool some more with replenshing it with youth players.. Sometimes this league drives me crazy.

    so what happens now? Well Duka will play with the u-20s and will get a contract offer from a Scandinavian club that will double whatever he would have got from Generation Adidas leaving RB and MLS with another young promising player playing abroad. Keep expanding Garber….Keep expanding

  4. Neumannator says:

    A “clumsy late challenge” up in the groin area by a coach who shouldn’t be involved at all? I don’t buy it. At worst it’s malicious and at best he’s a bleepin’ moron.

  5. Rossi is Judas says:

    I would like to see Adu consider a league in South America. His attacking style could potentially flourish while playing in Brazil or Argentina. He might not be able to play for a Boca Juniors or a Sao Paulo, but there are definately teams he could play for where he can find a starting role.

  6. caca says:

    Adu should come back to the MLS where he can start. He went over too young.

  7. Chris A. says:

    As a Portuguese, I find it amusing that you consider the Portuguese League to be ‘glamorous,’ or in the same class as the French League.

  8. Drew33 says:

    So what if teams poach local talent. If they WANT to do that is great! THe MLS single entity structure is strangling player development. The owners need to wise up and boss MLS HQ.

  9. AJ says:

    There’s a Charlie Davies photo and no Charlie Davies info? I’ve been deceived.

  10. yankiboy says:

    Soccer violence: As far as the soccer haters go–I don’t bother to use energy worrying about them. Haters hate. That is why they are haters. I could care less what they think. NFL, MLB, NHL, NBA, college basketball, and football–sometimes big time high school games–fights break out and poor behavior takes place. The alcohol consumed and people looking for exuses to justify their lack of intelligence and self discipline fuel the melee’s.

    What do I care about “soccer haters” having “more ammo..to ridicule the sports”? I don’t.

    I care more about people being hurt (me included) and the soccer attending experience being ruined. Sports are so supposed to be fun entertainment (key word). I “live” for them but I am not trying to DIE for them. If I want to see a fight, I will watch some boxing or MMA. I sure as heck and not looking for one when I go to the stadium.

    Aguirre (as stated somewhere else on the blog). Aguirre lost his cool. He made a mistake. He apologized. Now he has to live with whatever suspension comes his way (or doesn’t come his way). His reputation has suffered but it is nothing that cannot be restored. It was an isolated incident.

    Red Bull & Duka: Y’all just can’t catch a break. Nuff said.

    Gen Adidas: Look at all of the kids who bombed. Some are in the USL right now (and they aren’t even tearing it up there). Now anybody reading this who has read my posts anywhere knows that I love me some USL. So that isn’t a lsight on the league. I’m just keeping it real. If you get Gen Adidas ca$h then you are expected to be a special player in the first division, not any lower.

    It is like the other team professional sports leagues in this country and their drafts. Nice to pay for potential but sometimes, it just doesn’t pan out.

    Fredy: The kid was always (for lack of a better word) a “victim” of the hype. He just got hyped exponentially to the umpteenth level more than those saviours and US Golden children who proceeded him (think Jamar Beasley, Johan Kirovski, there are other examples just in the last 15 years). I’m not crying for him. Nor do I think that anyone else should. he has benefited immensenly from the hype but now he has some extra baggage to deal with because of it. You take the good with the bad. He just needs to play. He still can contribute at senior national team level. I am still not ready to write the kid off. He needs to fight a club and a league that are a better fit.

  11. Aljarov says:

    It seems like a reasonable enough rule (unlike most for MLS). If he wasn’t in their academy before goign to college he doesn’t qualify. That’s not a big controversy. NY are obviously trying to bring him in the backdoor and I don’t think that they should be allowed to.

    He just needs to enter a draft lottery like every other player in his situation. NY will have there chances like any othe rinterested team, and if Duka wants to insist on playing in NY then the RB will just have to compensate whomever wins the lottery.

  12. whatagame says:

    1. To be fair, the only reason Aguirre was near that Panamanian guy’s groin area was because the guy was so short. It just looked like an old guy making a clumsy attempt to trap the ball and not realizing it was still in play. Not smart and deserving of a red because he was out of the zone he was supposed to be in and interfered with the run of play; but not malicious. He clearly recognized he was in the wrong by walking off without arguing, admitting he was wrong afterwards and saying he owed the Panamanian team an apology.

    2. Freddy going to Belgium would be okay; but how about going to Holland to develop under the wing of a certain 5’8″/145 lb former US National Team star with the same type of quickness and skills who is now the Technical Director at NAC Breda (Earnie Stewart)?

  13. Jack K. - SBI MAFIA ORIGINAL says:

    Any news on Charlie Davies team situation?

  14. Theo Papadopoulos says:

    Are you sure a team in Belgium would want Freddy? Also, I don’t think coming back to the MLS is the answer for Freddy. I don’t think he could start in MLS either. No team needs a guy who dribbles to much, misses easy chances, turns the ball over, is undersized and over-hyped. Not in Belgium, not in MLS, not on the moon.

    The Mexican coach better get a heavy handed suspension and get hit in his wallet. Otherwise, it makes his move worth it. Hell, if you only get a one game suspension whats to stop him from taking a jab at a player on August 12th? The way I see it he gave his team an advantage because the stupid Ref sent of the Panamanian as well. The rule should be that if the coach gets a red card…his team loses a field player as well. If not, knowing the Mexicans, this might become strategy and not happen stance.

  15. Rastafari says:

    Now for something completely different

    link to telegraph.co.uk

  16. quakes fan says:

    Yes I thought you’d talk about CDs pending move to France. Come on Ives have you heard anything?

  17. Tim R says:

    @whatagame
    Your post is rational, logical, insightful, and even punctuated. May I suggest you carefully examine your attitude before posting regarding Aguirre or El Tri in the future. We run the risk of removing hyperbole and xenophobia from these discussions with posts like yours. (and thank you…)

  18. Tay says:

    FML. I want Duka to be a RedBull NOW. What is going on?!? He needs to come and save this team! Our right side can’t do it all, WE NEED DUKA. NOW.

  19. Goalscorer24 says:

    Would like to see Adu get a good run with his club team. When he was on, he was an exciting player. Hopefully he can return to form.

  20. A. Ruiz says:

    I thought Giovani looked pretty good for Mexico. I think the championship and Keane did him a lot of good. Adu should probably do the same, take a loan to a 2nd division team and learn to love the game again.

  21. ManicMessiah says:

    Boy it sure is nice that the Red Bulls decided not to sign a development player awhile back.

    Frankly, by this point I’m surprised that the organization is able to make travel arrangements for away matches.

  22. Stumpy's Bear says:

    Has Feilhaber really benefited by playing in a smaller european league? He plays for a horrible team and barely sees the field. How about Parkhurst or Noonan? Or Pearce in the Budesliga 2? I think the answer is obviously no. Holland (and maybe Rangers/Celtic b/c of the big match atmosphere they regularly play in) is really the lowest tier Euro league worth plying your trade in Europe. Otherwise play in MLS.

  23. Toumba says:

    @whatagame…so the Panamanian was short? That still does not change the height of the ball. Good thing this guy was not tall or it would have been at the knee. A much better target for ending someones career as opposed to only his love life.

  24. Ives says:

    Guys, the Aguirre line was a bit tongue-in-cheek, but seriously, he wasn’t even facing Phillips when he stuck the leg out. It was dumb, but I just don’t think he set out to actually hit Phillips (he thought the ball went out, went to in with the leg and then Phillips ran into him). Clumsy and dumb? Yes. Malicious? No. That said, he’ll get a ban and I don’t think anyone will argue with that.

  25. DC96 says:

    “The Charlie Davies transfer saga is finally over (we think). First, L’Equipe reported the deal was done, then Davies denied that it was done via Twitter, but now Sochaux has announced that the transfer is done pending a physical. If it is done this time, then that’s good news, although it may mean the end of Davies’ Gold Cup participation.” by Ives Galarcep, stated above

  26. Ives says:

    also, apologies for the missing Davies info in the initial post. That was a photo/post snafu that has been rectified.

  27. gmen04 says:

    I am not sure which club is more painful to follow at this point, Newcastle or RBNY. At least the Nats make soccer enjoyable

  28. Toumba says:

    Ives…go back and look at the youtube video of this….he is looking right at Phillips. The 2nd and 3rd replay show it clearly and in slow motion for anyone who doubts.

    link to youtube.com

  29. Mark says:

    That sucks about Duka, but this is when Red Bull needs to work around league rules. Have Salzberg sign him and then loan him to New York. If they can’t figure this out, I’m pretty much convinced the Red Bull is cursed.

    As for MLS getting miserly with the gen adidas dollars, that’s just horrendous. Adidas paid a bunch of money to MLS, they’ve gotten lots of expansion fees recently, and while I get that not all MLS teams are profitable, they still need to put good young talent on their rosters. You’ll miss on some of these guys, but then you’ve get the Jozy Altidore’s and the Michael Bradley’s who are sold which should offset a portion of the salary.

  30. BlueWhiteLion says:

    1. To be fair, the only reason Aguirre was near that Panamanian guy’s groin area was because the guy was so short. It just looked like an old guy making a clumsy attempt to trap the ball and not realizing it was still in play. Not smart and deserving of a red because he was out of the zone he was supposed to be in and interfered with the run of play; but not malicious. He clearly recognized he was in the wrong by walking off without arguing, admitting he was wrong afterwards and saying he owed the Panamanian team an apology.

    2. Freddy going to Belgium would be okay; but how about going to Holland to develop under the wing of a certain 5’8″/145 lb former US National Team star with the same type of quickness and skills who is now the Technical Director at NAC Breda (Earnie Stewart)?

    Posted by: whatagame

    point #2 is interesting.

    Point #1 fairly attributes an attempt at contrition by Aguirre, but it softpedals a stupid blunder and act by a coach. don’t even try to say he was “trying to trap the ball.” And it is more than “interfering with play.” He made a mistake, and he is taking his lumps. We need to move on, and he needs to work overtime to steer Mexico on a clear path of not just great play (which they are capable of), but also leadership in sportsmanship (which has been lacking).

    I certainly don’t hate the guy. But it was pretty boneheaded.

    Ives, after beating that dead horse (for my part, I mean) I wondered if you could compile a kind of soccer FAQ’s, accessible on your blog, that explains topics that come up over and over again like generation Adidas and MLS peculiarities so we can educate ourselves on them and not keep asking what they crap they are and how they work! :)

    Thanks.

  31. JeffLA says:

    Stumpy, you might want to brush up on your information. Benny didn’t play at first for AGF because HE WAS HURT. Once he got healthy he worked his way in and started getting playing time. Much more playing time than if he had stayed in England. If you don’t think going to Denmark helped him then you’re not too bright.

  32. Steve T. says:

    “Aguirre was just guilty of a clumsy late challenge”

    Seriously Ives? Seriously?! He’s the COACH! He should be figuring out how to beat Panama, not challenging the opposing players during the run of play!!

  33. Ives says:

    Toumba, I can appreciate you trying to make more out of the Aguirre thing than needs to be made, but what you’re claiming the video shows is NOT what the video shows. In the video Aguirre and the Mexico bench believe the ball is out and they’re appealing for the call. Aguirre then proceeds to try and stop the ball, apparently believing it was already dead, and gets his leg in, at which point Phillips, who never stopped going for the ball, runs into Aguirre’s leg. Dumb move by Aguirre but no way he went Woody Hayes on Phillips and intentionally went after him.

  34. teach says:

    Found a video of the goals and the incident in the Mexico-Panama game, link to youtube.com , definitely looks like he ‘crotched’ him as he was running down the touch line. I would be surprised if some suspensions don’t come down from FIFA over the incident.

  35. Erik says:

    MLS is making a huge mistake not allowing RBNY to sign DUKA. They were quick to sell Altidore before he could realy develop into a great player. Maybe Redbull Salzburg can buy him and then loan him to RBNY? Redbull should as an investor in the league have some power here to get this done for RBNY.

  36. Jay says:

    This is why MLS isn’t taken seriously. The domestic league should be able to keep it’s talented domestic young talent until they hit age 24-25, but because MLS can’t or doesn’t want to pay these kids anywhere close to the wages they can make in Europe, they all leave. There is no excuse for not being able to have Marcus Tracy or Ike Opara play in MLS for at least a year or two like Maurice Edu did.

  37. MVK says:

    “Robert Gibbs, the White House spokesman, later said Mr Obama ended his 30-minute session with Mr Silva by patting the Brazilian’s back and vowing, “we will not lose a two-point lead again.”

  38. JGIB says:

    Jim Rome is gonna eat this up

  39. harry says:

    Of Coarse nobody should wright off Adu……..perfect example………giuseppe Rossi was in the same situation as Adu 2 years ago…….mad talent….impressed everytime he played but could only mustar 18 or so League apearances with his clubs….until he turned 20 and then went to Parma and then Bammmm, Rossi then after teared it up Villareal…thanks to that move to Parma…………..this road by Rossi is looking simialr to Adu at the moment…….and this means Adu needs to go to a smaller club this year and play everyday like rossi did at turning this age(20 years old) cuz an in-form Adu is dangerous and he will be a huge boost as that Super-sub next year in the World Cup( that is if he returns back to top form by then).

  40. jtd says:

    its fun to make fun of aguirre, but after watching the replay, any objective viewer (my wife) gets the impression that he just made a boneheaded move trying to stop the ball. inadvertent… but its mexico, so, open the floodgates!

  41. Barry U says:

    Hammayby has the sale on it’s site. Hammarby article says that it sold Charlie for the largest transfer fee in its history. That is pretty sweet. Good Luck to him.

  42. japan says:

    harry, please do not compare adu to rossi. The level of play is nowhere close and neither are their situations.

  43. AdamTheRed says:

    I am an USMNT fan before an MLS fan, and I want US players with talent out of MLS as soon as humanly possible.

  44. MVK says:

    he missed the ball by mulitpe feet, but im sure hes the head of a freaking national team and just hasnt played soccer enough to have the foot control to get within a foot of the ball when its rolling by… honestly, how can any of you look at that replay and come up with some BS that he just missed the ball? Send a message to Mexico and their “supporters”.

  45. the mrs says:

    PLEASE IF rbny WANTED THIS KID Then sign him to a senior roster spot and wave Khano smith, or trade ubiparpovich something if they truley wanted him it could work,the problem is they don’t want him to count towards the cap, sounds to me like this is there fault not the leagues.

  46. harry says:

    of coarse nobody should wright off Adu……..hes in the same situation as Rossi 2 years ago..in fact Rossi ahd less Club games than Adu did at turnign 20 years old and then bammmmm, Rossi goes to Parma whwere he plays alot and then the rest is excellent for rossi after that. this is what Adu needs and that is a loan to smaller club where he will play everyday and get his top-form back quickly..because lets face it a top-form Adu(play at benfica, and the 3 2008 Super-friendlies) is only person on our team that can Be at or at least Near Donovans Level. Judging by how fast Feilhaber fixed his form; from only 1 month of playing time with a much smaller club…if Adu gets playing time for a whole season he will back to his top form and probally even better because for the first time in europe he will be playing 90 minutes every game. Adu go to a playimg-time club NOW.

  47. FK PIRIN says:

    Hi Ives,

    I think you are dead on about Freddy Adu. Nice to see good judgment and some perspective on a player.

    Is there any issue with Adu being too expensive for his current level of talent? Would smaller teams be scared off by his salary needs or a possible transfer fee from Benfica?

    Will Benfica loan him out again?

    Any info. you have would be interesting to know. Thanks, and keep up the good work.

  48. harry says:

    “harry, please do not compare adu to rossi. The level of play is nowhere close and neither are their situations.” Japan

    Are you sure Japan……..you dont even read what i wrote..you let your anit-Adu get in the way..so you cant even read what i wrote………..Rossi was in the same situation as Adu 2 years ago………Thats a fact..you can deny it all you want but thats the way it was. It seems to be the rabid anti-Adu crowd are so happy that Adu finally had a poor game and the Anti-Adu crowd are now having a party…but geuss what, what happens if Adu gets loaned to a small club gets his top-form back and then he plays in a US game and is our best player on the field like he was in the SPain game and some of the other US games………the Anti-crowd will disappear and not comment when Ives writes a review of that game and praises Adu….thats what happend on June 5th 2008 for the Ives Spain Game review were Ives praised Adu very high……funny thing was all the Anti-Adu crowd disappeared for that thread.

  49. teach says:

    Aguirre was a player so lifting his leg that high with the absolute look of nonchalance attempting to stop a ball over a foot below his foot? I’m sorry, I’m not buying it. An intentional act intended to look unintentional. A deliberate act to invoke a reaction from a Panamanian player with the hopes of an ejection. Aguirre resorted to trickery. I call shenanigans! I’m getting my broom.

  50. brad says:

    It is amazing what a mess the Mexican National Team has turned into. You thought things were bad under Sven, last night was an embarassment from top to bottom.

    Blame no one but the 11 (opps , i mean 12) guys on the pitch. Thanks Aguirre

    Truly a sad day in the history of Mexican Futbol

  51. SuperChivo says:

    “Thought the ball was dead and put his leg in…”? Come on, while his attack wasn’t particularly viscous he deliberately struck a Panamanian player during the run of play, interfering with the game and putting the health of the opposing player at risk for no reason. What’s more, his attitude and the actions of the players on both teams bled into the stands and are partially responsible for the conflicts there and for the cowardly pelting of the Panamanian player as he left the field. This is a major stain on Concacaf and the sport in the USA and when people don’t take their kids to the matches to support the teams, we’ll know why. I was at Soldier Field with my wife and son for the Honduras qualifier and, while 95% percent of the fans were great, some drunken idiots pelted us with beer and one guy even struck me while I was holding my 14 month old son! It’s time to take security at the matches more seriously.

  52. Onoda says:

    k, if this were a NYRB movie, this is the part that Redbull Co. ditches us and our name goes back to Metro and we sign an unsuspecting kid with a magic foot who helps us win the next 11 games, make it to the playoffs and win. but then the kid loses his power because he trips on a baseball, but he finds out that he didn’t need it in the first place because he’s got his mommy’s love.

  53. yankiboy says:

    Jim Rome is gonna eat this up

    Posted by: JGIB

    ——————————————-

    Who?!?!

    (chew, chew, pausssssse. wait for it…)

    Rack me.

    Late.

    Seriously. I care about Jim Rome about as much as I care about whether or not sprinkles on my ice cream sundae.

  54. Strider says:

    Jay, MLS losing young players is no shame. How old was C. Ronaldo when he left Portugal for Man U.? 18. Staying just with Man U. how about Obertan or Macheda from Italy no less? Larger more profitable leagues will ALWAYS be buying young potential. MLS real problem is that it is expanding beyond the available player pool and its limited salary cap. We need to see that grow so that we can keep mid-level talent.

  55. yosi says:

    Ives, even the mexican media called Aguirre out. On Futbol Picante last night (espn deportes) There was one Panelist who was defending aguirre tooth and nail. While the other 3 ( including world renowned ref Armando Archundia) were trying to talk some sense into him. If it walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck…well then it probably is a duck.

  56. Matt says:

    Incompetence thy name is Red Bull.

    *sigh*

  57. Chris says:

    At this point, signing youth players to RBNY borders on child abuse.

  58. Ives says:

    Not really defending Aguirre, I just don’t think he meant to do it. Do I know for sure he didn’t mean to do it? No, but neither do the people insisting that he meant to do it.

    As for the Red Bulls-Duka situation, not sure the Red Bulls should be catching flack for this one. You can blame them for not having Duka in their system at an earlier age, but they definitely did what they could to sign him, the league just wasn’t allowing it based on its rules.

  59. Slyboy says:

    Jay, if i recalled (although i may have it confused with Mike Grella) correctly MLS offered Marcus Tracy a six digit figure to accept an MLS contract. The league does try, but the allure of Europe is strong, and if you think the league should be offering more to unproven talent … i think you wrong.

  60. japan says:

    harry, Rossi played for man utd. Adu plays for Monaco. That is completely different. Of course Rossi will not play ahead of RVN or inform Saha or Solskjaer. Now I don’t watch a lot of French league but what top class player is ahead of Adu in Monaco? Rossi plays well almost everytime he is given the chance. Adu plays well 25% of the time he is given the chance.

    Also, it looks to me like the main reason he doens’t play is due to his work ethic. If that is the case, he won’t be playing no matter where he goes.

    I agree that he does have potential but he has shown no proof that he will become what you think he will become

  61. Dont Trust Passports says:

    If Adu was REALLY 20 years old, I’d say be patient. His passport says he’s 20 but IS HE REALLY 20???? Hmmmmm. There are people in Manchester, England that are familiar with bone density testing who might suggest otherwise.

    He’s a talented player, no doubt. His advisors have been giving him bad advice since he was “14″ years old. He never really developed properly.

    As Ives suggests, this guy needs to swallow some pride and find a club in Denmark, Norway, Belgium, Sweden, Romania, etc… where he can get serious playing time.

  62. Mason says:

    Ives-

    Look at :35 and :44 of the replay posted of above. He’s looking right at the play. He knew exactly what he was doing.

  63. harry balsac says:

    that’s so wonderful about Duh silva and barak obama , he’s so wonderful.

  64. Mason says:

    Don’t Trust Passports-

    Do you know what they do to people who lie on visa/citizenship applications?

    For a more likely explanation ast to why he hasn’t physically progressed much, google “Precocious Puberty”.

  65. DL says:

    harry – please learn how to spell our president’s name correctly. jackass.

  66. EA says:

    I think Freddy will be fine, just given time to play. If he can do it at Benfica or via loan, great. If not, his management/advisors need to get him somewhere where he will play.

    I’d love to see him break the barrier in Brazil or Argentina, and I think he’d do well. But isn’t the money terrible there?

  67. Scott in Houston says:

    harry wrote:

    “It seems to be the rabid anti-Adu crowd are so happy that Adu finally had a poor game and the Anti-Adu crowd are now having a party.”

    Um, that’s just wrong on so many levels. I gotta ask, are you related to Freddy? Cuz you seem to be blinded by adoration.

    First, this isn’t the first poor game that Freddy’s had, so don’t say that he “finally” had a poor game. He was just as bad in the first game of the Gold Cup. His only highligh, the one goal, was entirely due to exceptional play by Robbie Rogers, and Adu’s shot barely escaped the keeper’s glove.

    Second, the anti-Adu crowd aren’t having a party. In fact, I don’t think there is an anti-Adu crowd. There IS, however, a pro-USA crowd that wants the national team to play impressively all the time. The team as a whole looks poor when Freddy is on the field. It can’t be inspiring to see him jogging around the field rather than running and pressuring, and then giving up the ball over and over again, while players like Charlie Davies and Stuart Holden sit on the bench. Freddy has his moments, but they seem to be fewer and fewer.

    Finally, stop feeling sorry for Freddy. He keeps getting chances — both for clubs and for the national team — and keeps failing to take advantage of them. Bob Bradley called him onto the Confederations Cup roster, but what he saw in practice didn’t give him confidence to put him on the field. He gets picked up by Benfica, and barely makes it as a sub in the occasional game. He gets loaned to Monaco, and barely makes it into a jersey. When he played for those teams, some of his defensive lapses gave away games. He was personally responsible for giving away the ball that led to two late goals, which turned a 1-0 win into a 1-2 loss. That’s why he doesn’t get playing time.

    So harry, stop believing that there are “haters” out there who want him to fail. Instead, there are fans of teams who don’t see him playing a significant part in the success.

  68. Aguirre INTENTIONALLY lifted his leg that high and than played stooooooopid! He did not swing and kick him in the package, but the high lift leg was with a purpose! They way he left the field was shameful as well! At least 4 gamer for him! As for the fans filthy and Mal Educacion!

  69. Danny says:

    Looks like the send off is in effect for Davies per his twitter:

    “I want to thank All my Hammarby Fans for everything!!! You all mean a lot to me and I will keep you in my heart. Forza Bajen”

  70. Toumba says:

    I think that there are two types of fans in this world. Ones that see Freddy for what he is. And the other is “Harry”.

    BTW–I love how he uses the term “Super-friendlies”….say that out loud a few times….it is funny.

    Next up….A SUPER FRIENDLY between Rangers and Celtic…..

  71. Jimmie says:

    Freddy? A Who? Adu stinks, really. He hasn’t matured or grown since he was 14. So, either he has a health problem or someone lied about his age when she brought him to the US from Ghana where he had no birth certificate.

    Adu has good foot and ball skills, but he absolutely stinks as a soccer player.

  72. Danny says:

    Wow Jimmie. Thanks for the insight. Coming from a credible talent scout such as yourself we’ll all hang our hats on that evaluation.

    When will people quit hating? When will people realize he was just too hyped as a youngster? When will people quit expecting the world from a 20 year-old kid?

  73. alex says:

    I think the league did the right thing regarding not signing Duka as an academy player.There’s obviously a lot of hype about him going into the U-20 world cup but seriously, How much does anyone really know about this player at a high competitive level? I for one, DO NOT trust Agoos or Osorio’s ability to assess talent. Seems like he got the breaks and made things happen but the reality is…we need to see some consistency which the Red Bulls don’t quite understand. Duka is not a homegrown player so therefore should not be able to qualify as one!

  74. DCM says:

    Well said Scott in Houston!!

  75. Ed says:

    Seems Chivas USA doesn’t have any trouble signing youth players, must just be Red Bulls making more excuses.

  76. jimmygreaves says:

    Are you sure Japan……..you dont even read what i wrote..you let your anit-Adu get in the way..so you cant even read what i wrote………..Rossi was in the same situation as Adu 2 years ago………Thats a fact..you can deny it all you want but thats the way it was. It seems to be the rabid anti-Adu crowd are so happy that Adu finally had a poor game and the Anti-Adu crowd are now having a party…but geuss what, what happens if Adu gets loaned to a small club gets his top-form back and then he plays in a US game and is our best player on the field like he was in the SPain game and some of the other US games………the Anti-crowd will disappear and not comment when Ives writes a review of that game and praises Adu….thats what happend on June 5th 2008 for the Ives Spain Game review were Ives praised Adu very high……funny thing was all the Anti-Adu crowd disappeared for that thread.

    Posted by: harry | July 10, 2009 at 02:38 PM

    _______________________________

    harry,

    It is true Rossi was 20 years old when Manchester United finally sold him to Villareal where his career took off. It is true Adu is 20 and, like Rossi, needs a move. However the comparison ends there:

    - Rossi was on loan at Parma where he had scored 9 goals in Serie A. This is not easy to do. Adu was on loan at Monaco where he did not play much and scored no goals. Most people will agree with me if I say Serie A is a tougher place to score goals. Rossi was in demand. Let us see about Adu.

    - Rossi was highly thought of by Sir Alex Ferguson who, it is reported by Charlie Stillitano, after getting off the phone with Bruce Arena who wanted Sir Alex to help him convince Rossi to play for the USA, said something like, “how can I tell Rossi to play for the US when it is his dream to play for Italy and he is good enough to do that ?”. Remember, Freddy Adu had a tryout with Manchester United and Ferguson passed on him. I’m just guessing here but I think Sir Alex is probably a better judge of talent that you are.

    - Rossi spent his formative years at Manchester United who are known for producing a lot of good, young professionals. Freddy has spent his formative years in a number of unstable environments where he has clashed with coaching staffs. Rossi was groomed and polished properly; Freddy has not been so fortunate.

    If you want to compare players to Adu,Rossi may not be the best choice.

    I don’t know what goes on behind the scenes but neither do you so the only thing we have to judge a player by is performance. It is clear Adu is talented but needs work. There is no reason why Adu can’t go on to be successful but he will have to work much harder, and get into a much better situation than he has been, to get there.

    Your expectations for him, that he will suddenly become a dangerous world class super sub goal scoring threat for the USMNT are very unrealistic. As a USMNT fan I hope your wishes for him come true. Unfortunately, the reality is your stage-mother attitude isn’t doing Freddy any favors by expecting so much from him in such a short time when the evidence indicates another outcome is more likely.

  77. mike ruze says:

    This is hilarious. Another attempt by JCO to circumvent the MLS rules. The guy has no respect for our domestic league.

    The league must be tiring of his foolish attempts

  78. afc says:

    According to Charlie’s twitter the deal is done.

  79. Lance says:

    I am disappointed in Ives’ defense of

    Aguirre. There’s no excuse for a coach to make contact with a player, and conversely, no excuse for a player to make contact with a coach. I think the ref did what he had to do, by ejecting the Panamanian player, and Aguirre deserves suspension.

  80. Brett says:

    I don’t get why everyone is obsessed with Adu moving to a “lesser league”. The Portuguese league isn’t great and he is popular with the Benfica fans. Benfica is the team that thought he was ready when he was still in MLS, they just made a bad loan deal.

    Personally, if he can’t break into Benfica, I’m through caring what his potential could be.

  81. alex says:

    Osorio and Agoos probably thought that they would get everyone off their back about academy signings with a signing by Duka and obviously think the fans are as dumb as them. Of course, Duka would not qualify as an academy signing because he did not play there for the required amount of time. Kassel who does qualify was approved by the league to be signed and the idiots (Dumb and Dumber) offer him a developmental contract instead of a GA deal claiming they did not want to jeopardize other signings. The reality is that they do not want an academy player and as long as they are in charge, there will be no such signing of an academy player. End of Story!

  82. Scott A says:

    MLS get this academy system in PLACE. Come ON

  83. The Dilly Duka situation is just another in series of RB front office blunders. They probably told him they would sign him, so he leaves Rutgers – then this. Nice job Agoos/Stover/Osorio. Three stooges indeed.

  84. Al17 says:

    It is true Rossi was 20 years old when Manchester United finally sold him to Villareal where his career took off. It is true Adu is 20 and, like Rossi, needs a move. However the comparison ends there:

    - Rossi was on loan at Parma where he had scored 9 goals in Serie A. This is not easy to do. Adu was on loan at Monaco where he did not play much and scored no goals. Most people will agree with me if I say Serie A is a tougher place to score goals. Rossi was in demand. Let us see about Adu.

    Adu was in a whack situation @ Monaco and it came down to the manager’s not wanting him there. The few matches he played at Monaco he was fine and needed more time on the field which he should have gotten.

    - Rossi was highly thought of by Sir Alex Ferguson who, it is reported by Charlie Stillitano, after getting off the phone with Bruce Arena who wanted Sir Alex to help him convince Rossi to play for the USA, said something like, “how can I tell Rossi to play for the US when it is his dream to play for Italy and he is good enough to do that ?”. Remember, Freddy Adu had a tryout with Manchester United and Ferguson passed on him. I’m just guessing here but I think Sir Alex is probably a better judge of talent that you are.

    Ferguson poached the kid while he was at Parma. Money trumped all else.

    - Rossi spent his formative years at Manchester United who are known for producing a lot of good, young professionals. Freddy has spent his formative years in a number of unstable environments where he has clashed with coaching staffs. Rossi was groomed and polished properly; Freddy has not been so fortunate.

    He spent 4 years @ Parma then 2 years @ Man Utd during his spell as a youth player. I’m sure those 4 years at Parma was the primary reason why United took him on and knowing how Italy develops youth players, I’d give more credit to Parma than Man Utd in regards to development in his “formative” years.

    Let’s tell it right if you’re gonna tell it.

  85. Pico says:

    Salchipapa,

    Hey man, you need some salt and mustard… It is “Mala educación”

    Cheers

  86. harry balsac says:

    @DH..or dl,
    “harry – please learn how to spell our president’s name correctly. jackass.” I am just using the spelling recently used in an official whitehouse press release. why the animus? don’t agree he is wonderful

  87. Haig says:

    “This is hilarious. Another attempt by JCO to circumvent the MLS rules. The guy has no respect for our domestic league.”

    WTF? It’s not like Duka just got signed to RB Academy. I think Osorio sucks, but this doesn’t look like a deliberate attempt to circumvent the rules: instead, it looks like incompetence and ignorance.

  88. Scott A says:

    Mason, I wouldn’t say that the punishments are too severe for it to never happen. There’s a long tradition of baseball players from the Caribbean lying about their age or having false documents. I’m in no way suggesting that Adu is not the age he says he is though. I want to make that clear

  89. Ives says:

    Lance, at what point did I say A) Aguirre shouldn’t be suspended or B) Aguirre wasn’t wrong?

    He shouldn’t have been so close to the touchline, and he shouldn’t have tried to get involved with the play. All the “He intentionally ‘kicked’ Phillips” stuff seems like a stretch. That’s just my opinion though.

  90. RamonV. says:

    Aguirre is already going to get a suspension plus a tarnished reputation. He had the balls to get out of the field, keep his mouth shut and apologize to EVERYONE!
    BUT…your blind hate for Mexico, a country that has the most pro-American president of the entire hemisphere, doesn’t let you realize that the instigators, the hooligans (speaking of class, those English fans!), the provokers where the Panamenian team…PERIOD!
    They are idiots, ESPECIALLY the thug who rammed Guillermo Ochoa!
    And by that, I’m not excusing the MNT or Aguirre at all!
    Reminded me of the basketball player who did something similar to Pau Gasol of the LA Lakers in the NBA finals! You should see how well the Spanish press took that one ! The Mexican Press and fans today are crucifying the team and Aguirre, they don’t need any help from the American haters!
    I am convinced that NO ONE who speaks vitriol against Mexico and it’s people have ever been to that wonderful country or met their wonderful people. The people at the game yesterday where Mexican/American NOT Mexican nationals who crossed the border to watch the game!
    I guarantee to each and every American that choses to go to the Estadio Azteca on Aug.12, that you will be amazed by the fans, the stadium, the atmosphere, BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY the level of security and soccer knowhow that the people in charge have. It is nothing like CONCACAF in Houston Texas… believe you me!
    I hope that Mexico as a country gets over the rough patch it’s going through at the moment, and can soon see better times. Colombia did it! Mexico most certainly can do it too!!!

  91. afc says:

    Yura Movsisyan Randers move has fallen through. He is still a RSL player. Randers couldn’t pay the compensation.

  92. jimmygreaves says:

    Al17 | July 10, 2009 at 04:54 PM ,

    Rossi’s early years:

    “When offered a spot on the youth team of Parma, Rossi and his father moved to Italy until Manchester United bought his contract when he was 17. He scored a long range effort for Manchester United in a 3–1 win over Sunderland at the Stadium of Light.

    At the start of the 2006–07 season, Rossi moved to Newcastle United on loan until January 1, 2007, where he was expected to gain some first team experience. He made his home debut on September 24, 2006. Rossi scored his only Newcastle goal in his first start on October 25, 2006, against Portsmouth in a Carling Cup Third Round tie at St James’ Park.

    For the second half of the season, he was again loaned out, this time to his former club, Parma. Scoring nine goals in 19 league appearances, he helped the club escape the threat of relegation.”

    ____________________

    My main point was that if you are looking for someone to compare Adu to, Rossi is not the guy I would choose.

    I won’t argue over whether Parma or Man U was more influential in Rossi’s development. I could make an argument that Rossi would have been very good wherever he went but we will never know.

    The point is he was schooled well during his developmental years. Freddy does not seem so fortunate. I think you will agree that Sir Alex Ferguson, who rated Rossi and passed on Adu, is a better judge of talent than harry.

    Rossi took advantage of his year in Parma and scored 9 goals, leading to a big move. Regardless,of how crazy Monaco was or is, or regardless of whose fault it was, Adu did nothing at Monaco and it was a wasted year.

  93. harry says:

    “Adu plays well 25% of the time he is given the chance.” -Japan

    This is a bunch of BS………I have watched every Benfica game and every Monaco game and every USMNT game Freddy has played in. Adu plays well in 90% of the chances he is given…..The reason why i know this is because i watched his games on online streams unlike potsers hear who never watch and then just judge because he did not score 3 goals or the coach dosent play him enough. I ask this again and none of the lesser Adu fans have yet to answer……….why was Adu’s stellar performence against Juventes(where he was the teams MVP) the LAST time he ever played for Ricardo at Monaco???? why ahve people yet to answer? Or are they just hiding/ignoring like they did after Adu stook his foot up their behinds with his 3 stellar performeces in the 2008 3 Super-friendlies.

    And why do people hear say that they like Adu..but then say “he has never done anything to prove himself”……….its as if the Switzerland,South Africa,England,Spain,Argentina, Guatemala and the Benfica games of Freddy never happened….

  94. what2 says:

    Tired of you hating on Adu.

    I thought he did as much as was possible in the Grenada match and worked harder than anyone else. But yes the Honduras match was not great. However I would gladly take a goal every other game.

    And I normally think every USMNT player is underrated, but I feel Davies has become very overrated. He’s not that skilled at all, but does have a good work rate.

  95. andrew in tampa says:

    I think all this Adu hating is so misguided. Based on what we have seen him do on the field, he has moments of magic that no other U.S player past or present has even attempted. I know this is the past, but how can anyone forget that move he put on those Brazilians in the U-20 world cup. With soccer, it’s either you can play or not, either you are in form or not. Right now he is not in form and needs playing time. If he gets playing time and the magic doesn’t return, then I say we move on. There is way too much upside to give up on the kid. And let’s forget that age stuff already…. it is….( i won’t say it because it would just be like taking a match and a can of gas to an arsonist convention..)

  96. Champe says:

    We wouldn’t even talk abotu Adu if he hadn’t been so over-hyped. He developed early; he has not continued to do so. Not the first or last time that’s happened. Compare him to Michael Bradley or Jozy and you notice a huge difference — mainly, Adu quit growing, others caught up to his pace, and the combination exposed his poor decision-making. He still has decent touch sometimes and occasional flashes of a mature field-vision. But he is far from an international-caliber player. He’d do better playing professionally in Mexico or elsewhere in Latin America — almost nowhere in Europe will work for him. Let’s do the kid a favor and let him drift off quietly and try to get his game back.

    What I’m wondering is why we haven’t heard anything final about where Bradley and Dempsey are going to play next season. anybody know?

  97. rickr says:

    Mexico’s MNT is the most classless team around-from the coaches down to the players. What I really hate is their weak excuses when they lose i.e. the field was too bumpy. They should spend more time training and less time thinking up excuses.

    And I am Mexican-American before there are calls of Mexico hating.

  98. GB says:

    A team is a reflection of it’s coach. Aguirre’s “move” was in no way unintentional. He has a history of racial slurs from the sidelines (I’ve heard them personally). He stands at the edge of the coaches box for virtually the entire game and insults opponents. This was just an extension of that policy. His unprofessional behavior set off the Mexican fans and his own bench and players lose discipline at the same time. I’ve also heard him speak at forums. He is a decent guy but when the whistle blows he’s like a guy behind the wheel of a car….totally whacko!!

  99. japan says:

    harry, people have never answered that question because only the coach knows and its not because Adu “showed him up” like you put it. Coaches will bench star players because of their attitude, work ethic, tactic, or if he has a negative effect on the team but never because a player proved to the coach that he is good. Coaches nowadays are fired so quickly Ricardo would not be joking around by benching a good player without a proper reason and coaches love players who prove them wrong.

    We also need players that are consistant within the game. Adu does something really nice and the next minute, he turns the ball over unnecessarily. In that sense, he reminds me of Diaby and you can ask Arsenal fans what they think about him.

    No one is saying Adu sucks. We are just saying he is not as good as you make him out to be.

  100. ThaDeuce says:

    bad soccer news all around, especially mls. bah mls. bah.

  101. Gabe says:

    It’s rare that I disagree strongly with Ives, but in this case, I have to say that I think Javier did more than just play for the ball. You don’t continue to elevate your legs to stop a rolling ball, and honestly, his leg rose to the height of trapping a poorly struck cross…

    Do I think he was trying to hurt Phillips? No, but clearly he was not thinking about what he was doing. In my opinion, Javier got a bit too involved with what was going on on the pitch (brutal nature of the match) and it got under his skin. I think he initially moved to the ball, then thought to give the player a little tap to get under his skin.

    That being said, the real criminals here are the referee, the Mexican fans, and the habitual behavior we have seen out of the Mexican National team whenever they don’t get their way. First of all, that referee HAS NOT A CLUE on how to officiate the match. Two instances that I saw involving a player making a challenge on the keeper Ochoa were red cardable offenses, and neither of them even received a yellow. Also, his inability to control the match resulted in that fiasco we saw at the end. Coupled with a mixture of terrible no calls and flop friendly make-ups, this guy had a disaster,

    Second, there is no excusing the conduct of the Mexican fans. CONCACAF needs to get itself together. The FA has repeatedly find and santioned fans for their conduct and behavior, why can’t CONCACAF do the same?

    Last, the Mexican National Team is famous for a few things…arrogance, poor sportsmanship, and the bombardment of an official after a match that didn’t go as planned. I cannot even begin to count the numerous times I have witnessed the Mexican squad, usually led by the supposed “class act” Rafa Marquez, gather around an official and assault him with profane appeals and ridiculous exhortions. Something needs to be done. It’s absurd, ridiculous, and quite frankly very Didier Drogbaish..

  102. Gabe says:

    “Or are they just hiding/ignoring like they did after Adu stook his foot up their behinds with his 3 stellar performeces in the 2008 3 Super-friendlies.”

    Alright Harry, we get that you love Freddy Adu. Here is the difference, and perhaps the “reason” we are “hiding” our conspiracy theory fallacies.

    I like Freddy Adu. The kid is 20yrs old, and has pleeeenty of time to mature. Yes, I think people here jump all over him whenever he has a bad match. However, it is a equal reaction to fans like you, who continuously pine over performances that in the long run mean very little. Let me explain:

    You speak about the friendly matches as if they are a litmus test for potential greatness. Let me tell you something, friendlies are just that…friendly matches that have no consequences nor any repercussions. As a result, there is little to lose or gain, ergo the level of competition and strength of the rate of play inevitably diminishes. This is not to say that friendly matches do not say anything about a players potential or skill, but it is simply meant to state that it is certainly hasty to think that a player that performs well in a friendly will do well in major competition. E.G. Landon Donovan scored 3 goals in Bayern Munich friendly matches, but was unable tp generate the confidence in his manager to play him in competitive matches, and when given the chance, had little impact.

    Now, you seem to think that Adu was this amazing performer in the summer of 2008. The England match, Freddy made no impact. The Spain and Argentina match, Freddy was impressive, very impressive. Those two matches, along with the Switzerland and 2007 U-20 WC matches are the ONLY matches where in which Adu has been rated high. Here is the conclusion.

    Your theory of this conspiracy suggests that a player with a few great performances in Monaco friendly matches, two excellent shows of skill in international friendly matches, a good switzerland friendly, and a youth WC over the period of two years is enough to supplant Dempsey, Donovan, or Bradley for a starting role in international competitive matches? Any manager anywhere would tell you that such an idea is mental, particularly if, pardon me, but that same player plays awfully in a competitive match against a squad like Honduras? Sorry man, it’s just not enough to give him the reins that you want him to hold.

    Freddy is skilled, audacious, and tricky. He is also grossly out of form. Freddy needs to find a club that will start him. He needs to be in form. He needs to train hard and win the respect and admiration of his peers and coaches. He needs to learn to be a consistent performer, day in and day out, and then he can have his chance to supplant someone for a starting spot. Until then, I challenge you post something besides your obvious hero worship for Freddy Adu in a lovefest that seemingly never ends.

  103. Mason says:

    Mason, I wouldn’t say that the punishments are too severe for it to never happen. There’s a long tradition of baseball players from the Caribbean lying about their age or having false documents.

    ===
    Carribean ballplayers lie for other reasons. In addition to lying to be younger and thus more talented at a tender age, MLB teams can’t sign players younger than 14, so they lie to be older.

    As for punishment: Loss of citizenship, potential exclusion from future visas, and deportation aren’t severe enough for you? The reason the baseball players who are found out are given visas is because they are rich (and thus able to pay the fines/lawyers) and contribute lots in tax dollars (and thus we want them here playing their trade). At “seven” years old, Freddy Adu had neither of those things going for him. There just wasn’t any incentive for his parents to lie about the boy’s age.

  104. Scott A says:

    Mason, did you read what I wrote? I said I have absolutely no reason to believe that Adu is not the age he says he is. I just said that it’s not inconceivable for athletes–in soccer, baseball, whatever–to have falsified their age because it happens frequently. You seemed to think that because of the consequences there is no conceivable way it could happen. Of course I agree that the risks are not worth it but there are the facts. And I don’t know what you’re talking about with only rich people with falsified documents being allowed to stay. And it definitely happens at a young age. Familiar with Danny Almonte? link to en.wikipedia.org
    He’s certainly not rich or old and he was not his age and was allowed to stay

  105. northzax says:

    guys, everyone take a deep breath and relax. Freddy plays the most difficult position on the pitch (basically a CAM in a team not built for one) unlike say, a winger or a striker, a CAM cannot take a minute off the play (Altidore loafs around the pitch a bunch, but he scores enough that his often sloppy occasionally disconnected play is forgiven. no one expects him to fire the team engine on his own (not his job, of course) When Bradley was developing for the past 18 months, his father wisely used him in more of a defensive role, and he started to grow into his attacking role as he matured.

    think for a second, if you will. take the top twenty teams in the world, give or take. how many have a starting striker under 21? more than one or two. how many have a starting winger that age? a couple? how many have a starting offensive midfielder at 20? how many count on a 20yo to drive their offense? maybe Argentina?

  106. Mason says:

    Look, a Ghanaian winning the Green Card lottery isn’t going to knowingly falsify the documents. No way. No how. The DV lottery has about a 2% change of awarding a visa to an African, and there’s a lot more scrutiny of the winners than there is of, say, a boy moving in with his visa-holding father in New York. I’m not saying it doesn’t happen, but it’s a hell of a leap to make considering the hoops that the Adu family jumped through.

    Furthermore, did you read the article to which you linked? Danny Almonte was allowed to stay because he had no idea what had happened. He didn’t even speak English at the time. His father was banned for life from LL, charged with filing false documents in the DR, and prevented from extending his US visa when it expired. Being a minor is nice like that, and I doubt that Filipe Almonte would do again what he did.

    Filipe Almonte lied with a specific goal in mind. He lied about his son’s age. He lied about his son’s schooling (matters for whether Almonte was even eligible). His goal, however was not to fraudulently obtain US visas and citizenship for his son. It was to get his kid into Little League for which he was ineligible to play. Lying about a nine-year-old’s birthday on visa documents in order to get him onto older age-group teams (that’s what the outcome was) doesn’t make sense.

  107. Scott A says:

    Mason, I think that we agree but we’re just explaining different parts of the situation. I was just making the point that it happens. Obviously people do lie about their age and get away with it for different reasons. And both of us definitely do not think that Adu is older than he says he is.

  108. ThaDeuce says:

    GREAT ESPN ARTICLE IVES. I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING YOU SAID. WHY DO YOU NOT EVER LINK YOUR ARTICLES IN HERE??? would totally increase your ESPN readership.
    (sometimes I don’t even know about them)
    link to soccernet.espn.go.com

  109. Jammer says:

    Aguirre’s kick was 2 feet short of the ball, 2 feet high, late, and he was looking at Phillips not the ball. The ball was rolling straight not bouncing, there’s no reason to miss it by so much. I know why people say that he was trying to stop the ball — because it’s nearly impossible to believe a coach would do something so dumb as to kick a player. But that is what the video clip shows. As El Universal headlined: He lost his mind and attacked a player.

  110. Keith G. says:

    I think what Freddy Adu really needs to do is go back to the MLS. I am starting to think that he will be another Landon Donovan. A guy who cant make it in Europre but dominates the MLS, and performs well for the US team. If he does well for the US, that I am happy. So I think it is something Adu should look into, and maybe down the road when he is a little older he will be able to make it in Europe.

    As for Davies, I am happy that he is signing for a bigger club than he is at now, although I think that he could join a bigger club. I also hope that he stays with the club for the rest of the tournament.

  111. Osori-uh-oh says:

    The RBNY front office is completely incompetent. This is an awful, awful blunder. They don’t even know the rules of their own league! Shame on you Agoos, Stover, and Osorio. Stupid crap like this makes me wonder why I spend my hard earned money on season tickets.

  112. dagger says:

    The attempts to squash criticism of Aguirre, El Tri and their fans are counter productive. There is something wrong with this organization that runs deep. I and many others thought Aguirre would bring El Tri back to civility, but their system seems broken beyond repair. From poor sportsmanship (the only team I know that constantly disrespects the other players and countries), to Nery, Marquez, and Oswaldo going berserk, to assistant off field attacks, to Aguirre inserting himself on the field of play. There is something rotten in Denmark. Silence is not the answer or cure.