Xerez keep Altidore on the sidelines again

JozyAltidore (AP) 

by GIANFRANCO PANIZO

If you were hoping to see Jozy Altidore make his debut for Xerez this weekend then you will be disappointed to know that you will have to wait a little longer.

The young U.S. national team forward was left off of the gameday roster for Xerez's match on Sunday against Levante UD. The news is surely to cause a riot among American fans, who have witnessed their other teenage sensation, Freddy Adu, miss out on playing time with his club, Monaco.

Altidore still has not dressed once for Xerez during his month-and-a-half loan with the team. Altidore last played professionally as a second-half sub on Feb. 11 in the United State's 2-0 win over Mexico.

So what do we make of Altidore's lack of playing time? While it is understandable that Xerez does not want to mess with the team's chemistry as they make a final push towards promotion, one can't help but wonder why the loan deal was made in the first place.

Altidore's situation would have been better had Villarreal accepted Everton's loan offer during the winter transfer window or had Altidore stayed training with the La Liga club itself.

While Altidore's lack of playing time probably won't cause him to miss any World Cup qualifiers, (due to the lack of depth at forward) can the United States really afford to have its starlet not playing competitive games?

Take into consideration that besides World Cup qualifying, the United States has the Confederations Cup this summer and the Americans would greatly benefit from an in-form Altidore as they look to advance out of a group that consists of Italy, Brazil and Egypt. But for Altidore to make an impact, he will need to break into Xerez's line-up.

What do you think of Altidore not making the bench for Xerez? Frustrated? Wish he would have stayed with Villarreal? Think he should have gone on loan to Everton instead?

Share your thoughts below.

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102 Responses to Xerez keep Altidore on the sidelines again

  1. Ted Tran says:

    I still don’t understand why he wasn’t loaned out to an BPL team.

  2. gj says:

    This is BS

  3. Michael F. (SBI Mafia Original) says:

    It’s all very confusing.

  4. John V. says:

    I’m sure Xerez’s current crop of forwards are studs.

  5. Clint says:

    Weak move by Xerez. He has to be better than their strikers. At least give him 30 minutes off the bench!

  6. Karl says:

    What a horrible loan deal. I cant imagine Villareal is happy with his lack of PT either.

  7. Josh says:

    They just used altidore as a match to light the fire under their other players and it worked to a charm. The veteran players responded to the “ace” coming in. Now they will just keep not playing him but still use him as a pawn to keep the other players motivated.

  8. BlueWhiteLion says:

    That is really weird. Get loaned to second tier team just to ride the bench. Be better to ride with a quality team with quality training.

    Let’s see some journalist uncover what is up over there. :)

  9. Michael G. (SBI Mafia Phoney, Rhyme Biter, and Bandwagon Jumper) says:

    Send him back to Villareal.

  10. Brian says:

    Jozy should be in T&T with the U20 team. At least he’d play there and it’s not like he’s going to be at Xerez that much longer.

  11. PN says:

    Can Villareal bring him back. The purpose of loaning out a young player is to get him experience. If he is going to sit on the bench the Yellow Sub should recall him to oversee his development.
    PN

  12. jpc says:

    Both Adu and Altidore should be getting some major minutes w/ these teams, It’s very frustrating to watch this stuff happen

  13. jai_brooklyn says:

    While I think that Spain is still the best home to Altidore, he’s got to be playing somewhere! It’s frustrating because there’s no real report on how he’s developing. I was hoping that the high technical standards in Spain will make him a superior player but he’s not going to learn how to play with the ball at his feet if he’s sitting in the stands.

  14. Mark says:

    I think young American studs will finally take note of the mistakes made by Adu and Altidore by not fully sussing out the situation before going to Europe. Parkhurst made sure he was going to be playing before he chose his club whereas these two basically went to the best clubs that wanted them and now they are just prospects riding pine.

  15. A.S. says:

    He should have stayed with NY Red Bulls!

  16. ImaGoalMan says:

    Worse, it looks like the other transfer,

    25. Abel

    did make the 18 man roster…

    Now I really hope Real Zaragoza destroys them (not this week , but soon enough).

  17. Mark says:

    Hope he plays. I say recall him and loan him out to the Red Bulls if he isn’t going to get tim in Spain. I’m sure MLS would make an exception to have someone like Altidore back, even if it’s only a few months.

  18. Yes, send him back to Villareal. That’s not what they sent him there for. To sit on (or not even make) the bench. What a horrible situation.

  19. jh says:

    I put the blame on Villareal for not vetting the opportunity properly.

  20. andrewdiceway says:

    Ives (or anyone else) – has there been any public discussion byt the club and/or news as to WHY he’s not playing?

  21. spencer says:

    There has to be something deeper. There is nothing wrong with Jozy and Adu leaving the MLS. The problem for Adu is the fact he had 3 managers during his first season. With Jozy is that the team he got loaned out to had other plans to use him as leverage. There is no way we can buy he’s not good enough to play. Considering he started a game or two for Villareal, played other games. And more than not made the roster.

  22. STL says:

    people think this guy is the second coming of the messiah. the trugh is hes not that good. not even good enough to be a #4 striker on competive club. he has horrbile frist& technique and his soccer is not high. he is a great player and has all the physical tools size, speed strength and its a good finisher by american standards but mediocre by spanish standards. no way should he ever come back to MLS not for 15 years. he needs to ride it out and develop properly. hes raw

  23. chris says:

    Will Altidore get a single minute of playing time this season with Xerez? I would guess no.

  24. Alex says:

    Is the coach even saying why, he’s not playing? This is ridiculous only because it clearly seems these guys aren’t even given reasons why they aren’t playing. I guess we all know europe is not the land of opportunity.

  25. irishapple21 says:

    Xerez are anti-American. How sad that their bigotry is preventing them from playing an amazing prospect.

  26. Kevin says:

    Any US fans in Spain? I’m thinking a Nacny Kerrigan and Tanya Harding like affair.

  27. arkjayback says:

    This is getting ridiculous. Two Champions League teams loan out the US’s two best young stars to lower teams and neither gets playing time??!! And neither club makes a peep while their supposed investments sit in the stands week in and week out.

    I mean seriously. There’s absolutely no logic in either situation.

  28. nico says:

    You can’t blame Xerez, they are in first place…clearly they are doing something right. Too bad for Jozy, but you have to believe he is not performing in training to earn the start.

  29. WK says:

    Its a conspiracy to retard the growth of the american player!

  30. KCB says:

    It’s like a said a month or so ago when Xeres was leaving Jozy off the roster at the beginning of his loan, he’s better off practicing with Villareal and growing up with the team then practicing with some 2nd division side. Still don’t understand it all.

  31. usa says:

    STL wins award for most incoherent post ever. One sentence altidore is “not that good, not a 4th striker on a competitive team, horrible technique and first touch” and the next sentence he is a great player. this goon sums up the inherent problem with the internet giving everyone a voice, no matter how dumb they are.

  32. Anthony says:

    I never understood why the loan was made to a team in the 2nd division who was in first place. Why not a mid-table team who was looking for a spark in offense?

  33. Mikemike says:

    STL –

    What you are saying is that he needs to develop. I agree. The fact is that he is not developing when he isn’t playing games. People here are just pissed he is not being given the opportunity to develop.

    I really don’t follow what your point is.

    He has to get playing time. Villareal should step in and force someone’s hand.

    -Mike

  34. Cam says:

    This is really bad news ahead of the Confederations Cup. We NEED him to be playing. Hopefully he’ll have earned solid playing time with Villareal by next season.

    Off the subject, but here are two big stories which will be breaking soon:

    MLS Cup will be held in Seattle

    Valencia will be the opponent in the 2009 MLS All-Star Game.

  35. Adam says:

    Then I heard the coach said if he leaves to go to national team duty he will have even less of a chance of playing…. F Xerez Senor Garcia’s statements, including “Altidore will have trouble breaking into the squad if he cannot stay to train consistently”,

  36. I read that Xerex is performing real well right now and that Altidore is going to have a hard time getting playing time.

    This is part of European Football. You have to earn your time. Villareal have said they see Altidore as a long-term forward for them.

    There was an excellent article on Yanks Abroad that explained the Adu situation pretty well. He just does not fit into the coaches scheme. He is offensive, they are a defensive team.

    There is no bad rap on Adu, he just does not fit their system. Ranieri even applauded his game against Juventus.

    It is ok for these guys to learn how to earn their time. Here in the US, we put a good player on a pedestal before they have proven anything.

    Staying here is not the solution for some of these kids. Someone pointed out that Donovan has only scored 3 goals outside the US for the national team. Ah….that says a lot.

  37. MiamiAl says:

    Eddie Johnson Redux.

  38. paul says:

    I wish I had something insightful to say but I don’t.

    WHAT THE CRAT IS GOING ON!!!!!!!

    P.S. Go Sounders

  39. Indie FC says:

    Some of you guys are sooooo funny!

    There’s no conspiracy… just hard truths. Xerex is playing well, as in first place. They are fighting for promotion. The coach has stated publicly that he will NOT change the line-up or rotation until they start losing again….. and they haven’t, by and large. Altidore’s not the only one riding the pine and getting a bit restless. So it’s not about how well or poorly Altidore plays. It’s about the fact that a team is near the end of its season, is in a strong position to win promotion, and the coach has done a GREAT job of motivating the players to perform day in, day out.

    I suspect this is one of the reasons why so many Euro players are solid, solid, solid. They know that once you get into a line-up, you either perform, or you could see a long spell where, no matter how hard you work, how well you perform, there’s no way back into the line-up. This will ultimately be good for Altidore, if he’s up to the challenge. Everything I’ve read from him tells me he is.

  40. paul says:

    Wow, I cant even spell crap right im so pissed off.

  41. Gabe says:

    Can Villareal recall Jozy, or was there a fee involved in the loan?

  42. Only1Keano says:

    All these young guys are so quick to go overseas. Should have stayed with RBNY.

  43. jai_brooklyn says:

    “It is ok for these guys to learn how to earn their time. Here in the US, we put a good player on a pedestal before they have proven anything.”

    I agree completely. We expect them to be a Pato or an Aguerro which they are not. They need to develop. I still refuse to believe that Villareal who paid $10 mil (?) for Jozy does not have a long tern plan for the kid. We as well as Jozy need to be a little patient. Hope he comes out stronger and with more resolve to learn and develop. I just hope this does not burn his confidence though.

  44. Bob says:

    This smells of conspiracy. THis is the way the “Man” will keep the “Brother” down. By “Man” I mean Europe and by “Brother” I mean USA players.

    Looks like France and Spain are afraid of the USMNT and wants to keep us down.

  45. milkshake of despair says:

    GOAAAAAL u-20

    USA 1-0 Jamaica

  46. metrostar 4 life says:

    screw xeres.. no doubt in mind jozy is better than almost ever player on that team. its rediculous.

    freddy, leave monaco, they are terrible, and I know you have the ability to break into a great team somewhere else because their arrogant coach wants nothing of you

  47. Nicole says:

    As far as Donovan “only” scoring 3 goals outside of the US (I question this, really), but if he did…2 of them were in the effing World Cup. And he could have easily had 4 in that world cup – the Portugal “own goal” and the legit goal vs. Poland that was called back.

    So LD isn’t such a waste after all.

  48. milkshake of despair says:

    Goal Marosevic, assist Danny Cruz

    1-0 in 8th minute

  49. Nick says:

    Jai, we hold Freddy and Jozy on a pedestal because they both, especially Jozy, took an absolute dump on a Brazil side that featured the very same Pato you mention. People rate Pato higher, but his team got absolutely murdered that day, and he didn’t do anything.

  50. Nicole says:

    I swear, I think I’ll just start readin Ives articles but skip the comment section entirely. Too many extremists and just plain foolish postings going on.

  51. CapeCodFutbol says:

    This is plainly awful for Jozy’s development.

  52. Mike Caramba says:

    It sucks that he’s not playing, but here is what I don’t get:

    Altidore not playing at Xerez = bad loan move/Xerez are a bunch of idiots

    Adu not playing much for Monaco = he’s lazy/self-entitled/can’t defend/blah blah blah

    As far as I can tell, these opinions are based mostly on people’s love for Altidore and frustration with Freddy…not much else.

    Anyway, I think this loan move is still young and Altidore will have the opportunity to get some minutes later on. I’d prefer to hold off on calling this loan move a total waste of time until it actually proves to be just that–at the end of the season when he hasn’t seen a minute of playing time.

  53. Jeff Darling says:

    This did not make sense in the first place. Why loan a kid out to a team playing well enough to get promoted? Why would a team like that want to mess with their lineup? Obviously there is something corrupt going on here.

  54. JCC says:

    For the people saying that Jozy is better than all the players on Xerez. I’m curious, has anyone here actually seen Xerez play to make that claim?

  55. Homey Boehme says:

    Here is a comparison a lot of us are not willing or ready to make.

    Giussepi Rossi – Trained and developed in Parma youth systems starting at age 13. Man United age 17-19. Newcastle 19. Back to Parma at 20 and onto Villareal.

    Jozy Altidore – He was 16/17 and came to NYRB. What sort of training did Jozy get from 13-16/17? (I’ll be honest that I don’t really know.)

    I’m not a Eurosnob. I know Kenny Cooper trained with ManUnited youth system, and ya know…he isn’t playing with an elite club in Europe. But there is a difference with the youth set-ups in Europe compared to youth programs here in the states. It is just a fact. I certainly think it is getting better and has gotten better, but it just is not as good as Europe in general.

  56. Isaac says:

    I think that Jozy did what we thought was plain common sense when the Everton loan chance came up. He may have gotten playing time at Everton, but he stated himself what could happen if the forwards that Everton were missing came back and got back in form. Even the striker that eventually did end up going to Everton is in danger of the same thing. Everyone always says,”That forward that went to Everton in place of Jozy scored today” do we even know if Jozy is on the same level as the one who went to Everton? We cant rush these things.

  57. milkshake of despair says:

    US misses open netter in 26th minute.

    Still 1-0 US over Jamaica

  58. Bryan says:

    Going to Everton would have been a better situation. He’s as talented or moreso than Anichebe.. who is now out for the season. Everton ended up bringing in Jo from ManCity.. but they are STILL short on Forwards. Saha is back but he’ll be injured again soon.. it just happens. Maybe over the summer he can be loaned to Everton. They will be playing in Europe and will need plenty of depth.

  59. BCC says:

    I have a conspiracy theory about all of this: Europeans want to stymie American players as much as they can. Why help the US become better at a sport when its other leagues already dominate? Soccer is the biggest sport in the world and the US is an average side — seems to me that a lot of people would like to keep it that way.

    Anti-American sentiment seems strong in the big soccer leagues. I have a hard time believing that Altidore is not one of the best forwards on Xerez.

    But as always, I could be wrong. Maybe Altidore pissed off the manager.

  60. Javier says:

    How long is Altidore’s loan to Xerez? If it’s only for the remainder of the season then he just needs to gut it out and go back to Villareal at the end of the season. If it’s for longer than maybe his agent needs to get involved and see a loan can’t be worked out to another team or if Altidore can go back to Villareal.

    I understand that for whatever reason he can’t seem to break into the starting eleven at Xerez, but he does need playing at time. At the very least he needs to be on a team where he stands a reasonable chance of at least suiting up on game day if not breaking into the lineup as either a starter or sub. If it’s not happening at Xerez it’s time to move!

  61. Scott in Houston says:

    One word: Riquelme.

    (As in, a player who had a legit chance to be player of the year last year, for what he did for the albiceleste and for Boca, but could not get in a club game in Spain. It’s just DIFFERENT over there.)

    But I wouldn’t blame Xerez here. Imagine the financial difference for the club between the first division, when you’ll have Barcelona and Real Madrid coming to your stadium, and the second division. It’s in their long-term best interest to reach the top tier, while the short term cost in alienating a player that they’d just borrowed is peanuts by comparison.

    I’d blame Villareal for putting Jozy out there, where he has to adjust to a new situation, and where he has to choose whether to leave his club to work with the Nats or stay at his club and fight for a place.

    But I feel for Jozy in precisely the same way I felt for Clint earlier this season: Hodgson would NOT put Clint in his starting XI after laying out the team’s cash on Zoltan Gera. But Clint fought for his place, and ultimately proved that he belongs.

    That wasn’t a conspiracy against Americans either, by the way.

  62. Christian says:

    Well, I said it before and I’ll say it again, Jozy is an extremely raw player and his first touch is awful.

    People don’t seem to understand that the game is very technical in Spain and attacking players are usually required to be decent enough technically to create their own chances, Jozy is not that kind of player, at least not yet.

    Most of his goals for NYRB were tap ins or him running onto long balls and blasting them by the keeper, that’s not how the game is played in Spain.

    Some of you guys always bring up that Brazil U20 game as if it were some sort of vindication. Truth is, that Brazil squad wasn’t that good althought it had great players.

    I find it funny that people where bashing DiMaria and saying that Adu was better and when all was said and done, DiMaria did more at Benfica and Adu was the one loaned out. Same thing with Jozy, it’s amazing that people actually think that he’s better than Pato when Pato regularly plays and scores for one of one of the best teams in the world while Jozy barely even made the bench for Villarreal and when he played, he looked lost.

    Keep drinking the kool-aid US fans.

  63. Michael says:

    I swear, I think I’ll just start readin Ives articles but skip the comment section entirely. Too many extremists and just plain foolish postings going on.

    Posted by: Nicole | March 06, 2009 at 06:22 PM

    Nicole,

    I love the post that people put on here. Everything is conspiracy against US players because a team that is in first place refuses to player a player that was just loaned to them. Is it possible that Jozy’s work ethics is not up to par in the spanish league? As with Adu, that could very well be the reason for no appearances on the bench. Maybe a spell in a lesser league for 2 years could work for these players. Villareal, at this point, has no use the Jozy….

  64. Mike from linden says:

    Ives,

    pull some strings, they respect you.

    talk to the coach of Xerex and tell them to put Altidore in.

    Just kidding,

    i think this is ludacris though.

    Altidore is one of the best U-20 players in the world.

    I just dont understand

  65. ThaDeuce says:

    Yes, of course. Everton or VIllareal. I personally would have loved to see him keep working his way into the line-up at villareal, but to be able to watch him play all the time (The EPL is much easier to follow on tv and online) would have been a wonderful dream come true as well. So sad, too bad. He will break into Xerez, just not the ideal maneuver from the front office.

  66. SonicDeathMonkey says:

    FT 3-0 USA. From the looks of things, Cruz seemed to be the man of the match.

  67. Pico says:

    C’mon Gianfranco.

    You can do better than that! You should have also posted a link to the other article (link to xerezcd.com) where coach Vigo addresses the question about Jozy’s lack of playing time. You could have also translated it for the non Spanish speaking fans…

    I know the situation is frustrating but a half story does not help. Maybe Jozy, for all his potential, still needs to do better during training and is taking him a while to get used to the idea that he needs to train really hard and fight for a spot. And let’s not forget that he has had only one month of training with his new team, of which two weekends were spent away on USNT duty.

    If there is one knock on Jozy is his body language. During a game at Villarreal he was seen a couple of times standing with his hands on his hips. And that is a no-no. The Spanish announcers caught on it right away and they said it looked really bad, and the fans at the submarinoamarillo forum were all over him over that.

    So you see, it is small details that many in this country might not think is a big deal, but it does in other places. It is something that Jozy still needs to learn.

    Personally, I say he should stay and earn his spot (no shortcuts) in Xerez. That will only make him a better player in the long run.

    Cheers

  68. Jason says:

    Dilly Duka should be man of the match. Sounds like this kid did everything tonight. I hope he goes to Anderlecht.

  69. madmax says:

    Jozy needs to leave Villarreal. Coach Pellegrini was dishonest in his reason for refusing the Everton loan. Then he loaned him out to a dead end in Xerez.

  70. Steve007 says:

    Typo.

    Xeres keep Altidore on the sidelines again

  71. Steve007 says:

    C’mon Gianfranco.

    You can do better than that! You should have also posted a link to the other article (link to xerezcd.com) where coach Vigo addresses the question about Jozy’s lack of playing time. You could have also translated it for the non Spanish speaking fans…

    I know the situation is frustrating but a half story does not help. Maybe Jozy, for all his potential, still needs to do better during training and is taking him a while to get used to the idea that he needs to train really hard and fight for a spot. And let’s not forget that he has had only one month of training with his new team, of which two weekends were spent away on USNT duty.

    If there is one knock on Jozy is his body language. During a game at Villarreal he was seen a couple of times standing with his hands on his hips. And that is a no-no. The Spanish announcers caught on it right away and they said it looked really bad, and the fans at the submarinoamarillo forum were all over him over that.

    So you see, it is small details that many in this country might not think is a big deal, but it does in other places. It is something that Jozy still needs to learn.

    Personally, I say he should stay and earn his spot (no shortcuts) in Xerez. That will only make him a better player in the long run.

    Cheers

    Posted by: Pico

    ———

    Hey Pico you are too smart for this blog.

  72. Steve007 says:

    Hey Pico to be fair to Gianfranco, the article came out after he wrote.

  73. Jamie Z. says:

    As much as I would like to dissociate myself from all the reactionaries on the blog, I agree that something about this move does not add up. I cannot imagine Villareal are pleased with the fact that they loaned one of their top prospects to a second-division club only to see him watch from the stands. Villareal paid, what, 10 million dollars for Jozy? He is in their plans. His best interest is their best interest and they want him to succeed. If Jozy needs to do more work to get on the pitch at Xerez, so be it, but the simple fact of the matter is loan deals are usually made with the expectation of real playing time and development progress to the benefit of all parties — player, owner club, and loan club. Loan deals are short-term arrangements, not “let’s wait and see how things work out down the line” deals.

    I think that leaves two options here:

    1) This was a poorly planned move.

    2) There is more to this that we don’t know about.

  74. Scott A says:

    I understand why Xerez is not playing Altidore but it seems like a very strange loan deal for Villareal to commit to. They seemed fairly particular about where they wanted Altidore to go, and I’m skeptical that they envisioned him not dressing. People can bash other people for saying that this situation is BS, but the fact remains that it is rare for a team to pay 10 million dollars for a player and then loan him to a player a division below and see him see absolutely no action in a month and a half. I’m not suggesting a conspiracy, but something was not thought out well, or Villareal was mislead, or Xerez underestimated the reaction to the move, or something. I’m not freaking out but I’m semi-irate

  75. Pico says:

    Steve007,

    Thanks for the love man! I actually spend way too much time during the day combing the Villarreal and Xerez blogs and forums, as well any Spanish newspapers that have anything to say about Jozy.

    I don’t like that he is not playing, but instead of being blindly upset about it I have tried to find out what are people’s take in Spain.

    Villarreal fans are pissed that Jozy is where he is and many believe he should have stayed with the yellow team. Xerez fans are split. Some are waiting anxiously for his debut. Others do not want to tinker with the winning team and who can blame them. And others are resistant to him because the way the Xerez director Bilbao introduced Jozy and that put some people and players off.

    What gets me from going postal is knowing that Jozy has until June to prove what he can do and I hope he does.

    Cheers

  76. el granadero says:

    would call STL out for being wasted when he posted:

    “people think this guy is the second coming of the messiah. the trugh is hes not that good. not even good enough to be a #4 striker on competive club. he has horrbile frist& technique and his soccer is not high”

  77. Felix says:

    I blame Villareal for making a total mess of this situation.

  78. Steve007 says:

    Pico :) looks like you know Spainish.

    How about telling us what the mgr actually said about Altidore.

  79. inkedAG says:

    He should have been loaned to Everton.

  80. Pico says:

    Steve007,

    … “in Xerez is very difficult to get a call-up because we have 24 very good players. First of all, you have to earn it in training. Earn it, work hard, and he is a new player and has to wait for his opportunity. I think he is going to get it, but this week he has had a problem with his toenail (left foot). When he is able to give 100% during training and make his case, then I will make the decision just like his other teammates. He has to make it difficult for me, not me for him.”

    When asked if Jozy was having problems adapting, the coach compared him with the other winter arrival “Abel’s adaptation has been quicker than Altidore. Maybe it is because he (Jozy) is a foreign player and comes with a different outlook. For that he needs time, not for something else.”

    When pushed further about what could be the real reason, coach Vigo had to say: “I want everybody to train with high intensity, because all the coaches I have had always say ‘you play like you train’. It is one of my rules, If you don’t train well, you don’t play well. If it is not today, it’ll be tomorrow, and that is very important for all players.”

    It seems the Xerez coach is questioning Jozy’s training habits.

    Cheers

  81. C says:

    Too all the idiots saying he should have stayed with NY, you are idiots, on so many levels. That is all.

  82. Steve007 says:

    Muchas Gracias Pico.

  83. Steve007 says:

    C where is B?

  84. STL says:

    USA sorry your bitter dont take it out on mean, what i was saying was while he has bad technique and first touch, he can finsih well when given time. and while is is one of the U.S best player in spain he is not very talented compared to the average la liga striker. you have real problems getting mad at some one over the internet. who is really the dumb one?

  85. STL says:

    as I said raw and great compared to american standards and what weve ever had he was put on a pedestal because of mls success at a young age. were not the only country to put players on a pedestal england does it all the time, but we were really getting ahead of ourselves. the last thing he needs to do is go to MLS that will only hurt him terrbily. he and adu our still young and need time with european teams to learn how to play in europe correctly. michael bradely had to sit on the bench for a while to learn before he started at heerenveen. these guys are only 19 not 25.

  86. Jean says:

    BOTTOM LINE:

    Xerez Manager = Jozy is Lazy

  87. DC Josh says:

    pissed off

  88. Northzax says:

    Jean: which is roughly what people were reporting about jozy last spring in new York. As I recall, Ives was blasted by the mob for that report as well…

  89. ga-gone says:

    Obviously not an ideal situation. To me the question really is: why was this loan deal made if not to get him playing time?

  90. Tim says:

    Yes, Xerez’s other strikers are so bad that they are pushing for promotion to the Primera Liga. Give me a break… ironically enough, Christian has the right idea of it. We wanted Jozy to go to Spain to learn the technical side of the game but there is no space for mistakes at clubs like Villarreal and Xerez. IMO he will never be fully suitable for Spanish football as his technique is poor. I can see him ending up at a club like Fulham in the future. But ultimately, Villarreal loaning him to Xerez was counterproductive. A mid-table second division team would have given him playing time.

  91. Brett says:

    Eh, if he can’t cut it, he can’t cut it.

    Training or games, it doesn’t matter, he’s got to put in the effort and work tirelessly and only then will he earn the level of respect necessary to justify placing him ahead of the other players.

    As for this whole “Jozy is lazy” business… I highly doubt he would have been making substitute and starting appearances for Villarreal, injured strike force or no, if he was “lazy”.

    Perhaps he did not want the loan to happen and this is how he is showing it. It seems plausible now that he may not have been 100% willing to go out on loan to a team that didn’t and doesn’t really need him, but was sort of coaxed into doing so by the Villarreal management with the promise he would either receive immediate minutes or be returned to Villarreal as a presumed starter.

    It’s too early to know, but it seems a lot more likely than him “just being lazy”.

  92. Kasey says:

    Alitdore does not have technical skills to play in Spain. He should move to England or Germany

  93. madmax says:

    Jozy should leave Villarreal because their coach lied about the Everton loan, then loaned him out to a dead end at Xerez. That’s reason to leave, the coach is dishonest. Nothing more is needed.

  94. BCC says:

    Tim — they are pushing for promotion to La Liga, where they will summarily earn 15 points and be sent back down. This is a player who was at Villareal, a top four team in La Liga, and was often in the side. Why send him to Xerez if he is not going to be in the rotation? Makes no sense.

    As to whether he “tries” during training, he’s a forward. They stand around a lot and draw yellow cards when they try to play defense. Maybe he doesn’t know how to make runs off of the ball.

    On a separate but related note, did anyone notice how bad LD’s positioning was for Bayern during his last couple of outings? Seemed like he was three feet from Klose most of the time.

  95. jean says:

    Donny Cakes is overated

  96. Pico says:

    Tim,

    the only reason Jozy got to play at Villarreal during the first half is because the team was decimated by injuries. Nihat, Rossi, and Franco missed quite a few games, and that left Llorente as the only available forward.

    All forwards are back now, so even if Jozy were to stay with Villarreal, he would still have to earn a call.

    Now, there are rumors that Rossi will leave for Italy in the summer and Franco might not be back. Still, you are talking about three more months where Jozy has to work hard to earn a spot.

    Madmax,

    The loan is done so get over it. It does not matter whose fault it is, Jozy needs to earn his time in the pitch. BTW, not going to Everton is probably the best thing that could have happened to him. He should learn to play the right type of football.

    Cheers

  97. madmax says:

    Pico “It does not matter whose fault it is,”

    I didn’t say whose fault it was . I don’t care. Pellegrini lied about the Everton loan. There is nothing to get over. Jozy should leave Villarreal, no playing time, dishonest coach. That’s more than enough.

    get over it

  98. mystery says:

    En Valencia aseguran que el Xerez ha pagado 300.000 euros por la cesiĆ³n de Altidore

  99. Jean says:

    Xeres keep Altidore on the sidelines again

    ——

    It’s Xerez not Xerex

    Show some respect !

  100. Army of Dad says:

    Jean, why show them any respect when they don’t seem to give any themselves!? Seriously, most people here are Americans and we will soon enough forget about Xerez. Then they can go back to being an anonymous team with a few local fans in a midlevel league doing nothing terribly important in the grand scheme of things.

  101. jean says:

    : Army of Dad |

    It’s Xerez not Xerez

    Good Possibilty is that Xerez Mgr is telling the truth. Alitdore probably is not used to working hard in training.

  102. Tyler says:

    Altidore was not loaned to a EPL team (everton) because Villareal has high hopes for him and they want him to adjust to Spanish life. However, the reason he is getting no playing time is because Xerez have never made to La Liga 1st division and they have a great chance this year and their main striker is superb, netting 20 goals so far.