A closer look at the Carlos Ruiz trade

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The details finally emerged on the Carlos Ruiz trade from LA to Toronto FC on Thursday and they were shocking to say the least. The LA Galaxy shipped Ruiz to Toronto FC for a pair of supplemental draft picks. Now Toronto has a former MLS MVP and the current Guatemalan national team captain for the low price of two supplemental picks and the $120K in salary they will pay Ruiz.

It seems like highway robbery until you consider that LA used the cap space to sign U.S. national team midfielder Eddie Lewis. As much as adding Lewis should help Bruce Arena’s squad, you can’t help but feel that they gave Ruiz away too cheaply. Was the market really that weak for Ruiz? Did Toronto get the steal of the year?

Some will argue that Ruiz’s temperament and moodiness could create problems in the clubhouse, which could suddenly make that bargain far less of a bargain. There have been rumors that Ruiz isn’t happy with the trade but Toronto midfielder Amado Guevara insists that Ruiz is happy to be joining him in Toronto.

It seems like a deal that helps both teams, but there is certainly room for either team to come away from the trade looking pretty bad. If Ruiz finds his MVP form of old the Galaxy could rue the decision to unload him. However, if Ruiz becomes a troublemaker, and fails to find his scoring touch, the trade could prove costly for Toronto this year.

LA will consider the trade a success of Lewis helps the Galaxy make the playoffs. However, if Edson Buddle stops scoring and Alan Gordon starts playing like the old Alan Gordon, Bruce Arena could suddenly find himself wishing he had kept ‘El Pescadito’ around. Considering what happened the last time Arena traded a former MLS MVP from Central America in order to make room for an aging U.S. national team midfielder you would think Arena would have thought twice about the deal.

What’s my take? I think Toronto made out like bandits because it’s a no-risk trade. If Ruiz is ineffective Toronto will have gambled very little. Ruiz’s contract is not guaranteed in 2009, meaning Toronto could unload him after the season if he doesn’t work out. I don’t mind the deal for LA because the Galaxy needed to do something to add Lewis and forward is a position it could afford to trade from (at least that seems to be the case right now).

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67 Responses to A closer look at the Carlos Ruiz trade

  1. Nic D "The Texas 2 Stepper" says:

    Did Toronto get the steal of the year?

    In a word (or six) Yes!

  2. Brant says:

    Depends – are you going to get a Ruiz playing like his paycheck depends on it? Or are you going to get a guy sulking that he was banished from the ‘glamour’ team, forced to play on turf, and ‘accidentally’ kicks goalkeepers in the head?

  3. Kaiser says:

    Get rid of a dirty player and add a classy vet like Lewis?!? Its a great deal for the Galaxy. Perhaps they could have gotten more, but I think it makes LA a better team, with more options for the future without Ruiz’s contract.

  4. Duthie says:

    I voted tfc made out like bandits but I’ve thought that before for other players and I’ve been wrong.

  5. Kevin says:

    I bet TFC regret this after what happened in Guatemala. You know, where he DELIBERATELY KICKED TIM HOWARD IN THE FACE? Yea. Way to be, Ruiz. Class act.

  6. lakaix15 says:

    who cares if becks and lewis can cross, they have no one to cross too. and dont tell me that gordon can head the ball….

  7. Carlos says:

    He absolutely useless, what has he done lately? with the exception of kicking Tim Howard in the head…absolutely nothing…so the Galaxy got a Steal, although Eddie Lewis isn’t that much of an upgrade, how he’s on the national team is mind boggling to me.

  8. andy b. says:

    Maybe the Galaxy wanted rid of him so they didn’t have to deal with the notoriously tough-bargaining Screen Actors Guild, which I hear is claiming to have exclusive jurisdiction to represent Ruiz in all future contract negotiations.

  9. TCompton says:

    Both teams win, but I think that Toronto has a bigger up-side from the deal and LA has a lesser down-side.

    Ruiz and Guevara should work well together. And given that Ruiz has hardly played much this season for LA, he should be fresh enough for the final 3rd of the season. The down side is that dealing with an unhappy Ruiz is like having to call COMCAST to complain about your bill. Nobody wants to do it.

    The Galaxy gets an Eddie Lewis, who is not as fast as he use to be, but should help to settle down their left side of midfield and defense. I’m not sure how much he has left in the tank though, and the MLS he’s facing today is no the same MLS he left several years ago.

  10. Bryan says:

    i think this is a good trade for both parties. although, TFC did just get Johann Smith, Dichio is still having problems and they needed another. I hope Ruiz does horrible though. That POS. Classless. But also, LAKAIX brings up a good point about no one to cross to. LD is too short and never been good in the air. Buddle is big enough and could work out nicely. and gordon may have a good header here and there (see the chivas usa/la game last week), he should never be relied upon. what they need is a proven aerial scorer, like McBride.

  11. Ed Ho says:

    Ruiz really looked bad in his time in LA. So, the possibility that he is over the hill I’m sure came up.

    Plus, LA really needs to balance out its DP and overall salary situation. Beckham isn’t going anywhere. Landon may, but I doubt it.

    So, unloading Ruiz for nothing would progress for LA. This is definitely a good deal if they get anyone in return.

    Plus, after watching last night’s game, they need a “central” midfielder. Pires, Vagenas, Tudela, etc are easily some of the worst players in the league. Adding just an average player or two there would be huge. They should be able to address that need by freeing this space up – maybe not this year, but eventually.

  12. Michoacano says:

    TFC will be happy to have traded for Ruiz, especially at that price. Ruiz will be coming out with a vengeance and will prove all naysayers wrong. I just wish TFC and the Galaxy would have had one more game this season.

  13. Michael F. says:

    Depends how he performs. A lot of writes call him a cancer in the locker room, so maybe LA was smarter than we think.

  14. Keith says:

    Looks a lot like Cunningham part deux for TFC. No one wanted him, LA was lucky to get two crappy picks for him, my guess is they would have cut him if TFC had not picked him up.

  15. BJR says:

    Good riddance.

    I hope ‘el pescadito mas sucio del mundo’ gets his ass kicked for the rest of the season…

  16. TK says:

    Ruiz has been figured out by MLS and it’s refs. Decent pick up for TFC considering their situatuon and the money, but this is not an MVP player anymore. Not even close.

    Why don’t they sign AP Chacon to? He is former MVP. It’s BFD overall.

  17. Jim says:

    Good, now Americans won’t be conflicted about berating Ruiz mercilessly since he won’t be playing for the home team.

    And I don’t believe Ruiz has kicked any Canadians in the face yet, so I guess it work out for Toronto, too.

  18. Nicole says:

    LA has done fine without Ruiz in the lineup. It’s when Ruud was forcing Ruiz onto the field that the offense went south for LA. And those saying LD it’s a waste for Lewis or Becks to cross the ball to LD…you need to go back and recheck a few things. I seem to recall when Lewis crossed a ball to LD and things worked out well. And Becks’ crosses to Donovan have resulted in some goals this year..off headers, too. It’s a win-win for both teams.

  19. Oh Canada says:

    Congrats to Toronto. You got a locker room cancer with 1 goal in 10 appearances, who is at least 25 pounds overweight…

    …oh, and the $120k is just for the rest of the season. That’s $350k on the salary cap next year.

  20. Eugene says:

    Arena think twice? no way

    Arena learn from past mistakes? no way

    Arena’s too arrogant and egotistical to look at his past actions and see the mistakes.

    That said, I don’t think this is a risk-free trade for Toronto. If Ruiz starts playing with his typical shenanigans on the field, that could be a big distraction for a team that needs to make a play-off push. Furthermore, if Ruiz unhinges the locker room, that could be more harm than good for TFC.

    I thought they got rid of Cunningham in order to do away with potential locker room issues…

  21. Jordan says:

    TFC just acquired the biggest Asshole in the league. This guy is way worse than Jeff Cunningham. At least Cunny isnt a dirty player as well as being a general cancer for a squad.

  22. Michael Vann says:

    It’s a wash either way. LA was tired of Ruiz’s shannigans and I’m sure he was just as tired of theirs. Ruiz could become a steal for TFC if he shows the finishing ability of the past and dumps the sulky attitude. But a have a hunch we will continue to see the Ruiz of present. He looks past it and quite frankly looks disinterested. Maybe TFC will be a breathe of fresh air for him, I don’t know. If it doesn’t work out I could see him heading back to Municipal when the season’s done. I’d be the first to say “see ya” and slam the door and lock it quickly. I’ve never been a big fan, I managed to see past his crap, but lately his attitude and antics just leave a sour taste in my mouth. He’s really become cancerous.

  23. RAndo says:

    Another stupid trade by my stupid ass Galaxy Man do we suck we keep adding these old F***ers to our team no wonder we aint going nowhere. I hope some Euro team comes calling for Lando because this the worst place he can be right now.

  24. Keith Brown says:

    Ruiz is a dirt bag, period.

    Watching him kick Howard in the head this week just shows the world what a piece of crap he really is.

    So glad the Red Bulls passed on him.

    He will become a cancer in the LA locker room.

    He will not enjoy playing second fiddle to Beckham and co!!

  25. kpugs says:

    Just based on the fact that Ruiz can score goals in this league, this is an okay deal for them.

    Problem is I don’t know how any fan can be happy to get the dirtiest player and biggest cheater in the history of this league. Bottom line is he is a diver, cheater, filthy player who takes every cheap shot he can. I never understood how any fans could cheer for him.

  26. Ossington Mental Youth says:

    Can say im the biggest fan of the guy but hes ours now and it didnt cost us anything.

    Gotta say im loving the hate on for him. The only thing ill love more is if he steps up and performs. Dude could become a god at BMO field but its up to him to do so. Dont know that Winsper can get him into shape in time but itll be fun to see if Guevara (whos been pleasant and peaceful) will have any influence over his playing and behavior.

    I guess we might get a hint of it this weekend against the Revs.

  27. kpugs says:

    Keith…not sure you read this right. Ruiz is heading to Toronto, he has been playing for L.A. You just crawl out from under a rock? :)

  28. Ossington Mental Youth says:

    PS

    We rid of Cunny cus he cant score.

    Granted Ruiz’ record as of late is just as impressive but he has got youth (to a certain extent) on his side as well as a possible partnership with Guevara where as Cunningham, well, he was just a dick that nobody liked.

  29. baconboy says:

    When the Galaxy came to play in Dallas last month, my wife took one look at Ruiz and said “He got fat!” She doesn’t know much about soccer, but I think those three words pretty much sum up the current status of Ruiz.

  30. Max says:

    The league has improved to the point where Carlos is no longer even one of the top 10 strikers. There’s a reason why guys like him and Jeff Cunningham can’t seem to stay in one place for more than a year now, and it’s because the level of play has risen to the point where defender can handle them much more easily.

    I don’t think either team wins. He might score a few with TFC, but he certainly isn’t a long-term solution, and he’s likely to want out if things don’t go perfectly for him. There’s also the big risk that he and Amado won’t get along to well. For LA, they unload his salary and attitude which is good, but Eddie Lewis is nothing but a wing player, and their problems havent been related to attacking at all. It’s great that they’ll now have service from both flanks, but the defense is still horrendous.

  31. wykell says:

    where is the button for, “Well, at least that dirty cheater is out of the USA?” Cause that’s what I want to select

  32. Blake says:

    I can only imagine what will happen if sparks fly between Ruiz and Amado. Scary.

  33. Fishicker says:

    Mo needs to take a risk as we’re in real danger of missing the playoffs. He could have gone with the status quo and hope our players perform well enough to get in, or take a gamble on a talented but tempermental player. We only gave up supp. draft picks so even if he turns out to be a cancer he’ll be gone next year.

    Of course I thought the Cunningham cancer rumours were nonsense, so it goes to show how much I know.

  34. MJ says:

    Quality left-sided players, and especially left backs, are a premium commodity throught the game — and moreso in MLS.

    Ruiz would have been tolerated less than a nanosecond under Arena, and rightly so. For the Galaxy to jettison Ruiz, as a move in and of itself, would be a good decision. To do so in order to make way for Lewis, it is nearly inconceivable that anyone (including Ives) could consider it a bad move.

  35. Steve says:

    Did we ever find out how big an allocation FC Dallas traded Ruiz away before the season? That would really highlight how much LA lost because of Ruiz

  36. Joseph D'Hippolito says:

    Ruiz had next-to-no market value, so why should Toronto trade anything but supplemental draft picks and cash for him? Ruiz was coming off knee surgery when he was in the season opener and was never match fit after he returned. Given his reputation, who would want him?

  37. Bryan says:

    keith, i really hope that was a joke! otherwise, wow.

  38. Shakes says:

    He might be an asshole, but he’s our asshole now. Gotta support the guys.

    I hope he regains some passion, and scores lots of goals for us. And Carver has said he won’t accept any diving on his team, so perhaps he can do something about that problem too.

    – Scott

  39. Sam Nishi says:

    Realy doesn’t matter what LA got in return .. .. They just needed the allocation/cap space .. .. Pescadito was never going to be the Ruiz of old, which was what we needed .. .. Too bad it didn’t work out .. ..

  40. Thom says:

    Arena needs the picks. Did you see his face last night? He knows he has a massive rebuilding job to do.

    Think Beckham’s overrated? See the Galaxy’s offensive output last night without him. No vision and no service- except for the irrepressible Mr. Klein but only from way out on the wings.

    One big worry- That Eddie Lewis is completely spent as a player. Time will tell on that one but it seems he has aged 3 seasons in the last year both for Derby and country. LA does not need a 2nd choice free kick specialist who does not have the wheels left to track back and help defend.

  41. Thom says:

    Arena needs the picks. Did you see his face last night? He knows he has a massive rebuilding job to do.

    Think Beckham’s overrated? See the Galaxy’s offensive output last night without him. No vision and no service- except for the irrepressible Mr. Klein but only from way out on the wings.

    One big worry- That Eddie Lewis is completely spent as a player. Time will tell on that one but it seems he has aged 3 seasons in the last year both for Derby and country. LA does not need a 2nd choice free kick specialist who does not have the wheels left to track back and help defend.

  42. Ricardo says:

    How greasy does he look in that picture

  43. Rudy says:

    I think it’s a “win” for the Galaxy because they were able to unload Ruiz. Of course the “win” wouldn’t have been necessary if Ruiz was never brought back in the 1st place….

  44. Ed Ho says:

    For the record, I don’t recall Ruiz ever being a locker room ro off field problem while with teh Galaxy. I actually recall Luis Beno writing that he had been a pretty good team player.

    So, he did suck on the field, but the whole Arena wouldn’t have tolerated him thinking seems to be a stretch. Maybe he just lost his passion for the game.

  45. Jamie Z. says:

    I’m incapable of providing an objective opinion on the matter due to my intense antipathy for one of the parties involved (Note: not Eddie Lewis).

  46. nathan3e says:

    If Ruiz becomes a troublemaker? Wouldn’t that be when?

  47. BIGBOY says:

    He’s finished and has been finished for some time. The Field turf will suck what ever life he has left, out of him. Getting by all that, He’s the dirtiest player in MLS and i wouldn’t want him on my team

  48. Pisscadito says:

    This is a steal for TFC. This guy hasn’t gotten on the this year because Buddle has been so good. He still looked mighty dangerous against USWNT. Ask Timmuh.

  49. Ossington Mental Youth says:

    People should find this amusing, rumor has surfaced that hes disappeared and FO cant get a hold of him. Not a good start Carlos.

  50. Omar says:

    This the Bruce Lee of football!!!!!!!

  51. Pooi says:

    Beckam will enjoy this man as an enforcer!!!!!!!!!

  52. Chris says:

    “a pair of supplemental draft picks.”

    What a steal! Didn’t Mo Pass an picking with any of TFC’s supplemental picks last year?

    Trader Mo got Ruiz for something he dosen’t use anyway! what a genius!!!

  53. frank says:

    the question I still have is why they didn’t take Cory Gibbs when they had a shot at him? Is he still unfit?

  54. DeLarge says:

    Ossington, are you serious?

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

  55. Victor says:

    Arena + Reyna + RBNY = Fail… Arena + Lewis + Gals = Fail waiting to happen

  56. jloome says:

    Tim Howard deserves the Oscar, not Ruiz, who didn’t kick him but claim close to accidentally kicking him in the head.

    Ruiz is a dirty, diving player. But to U.S. fans, everything he does falls into that category.

  57. Ossington Mental Youth says:

    De Large,

    Sadly i am, once again its all just conjecture so i guess we will see tomorrow-ish. Honestly, im hoping its all just a bluff and he shows up wearing a cap and scores a hattrick. I am a TFC supporter tho…

  58. inkedAG says:

    I think this is a win-win situation. I don’t think Carlos Ruiz is gonna tear it up on turf. Tear up ligaments, sure, but not the goaline!

  59. Anthony says:

    Have you seen Alan Gordon play??? He has to be the worst forward in the league.

  60. Michael Kurowski says:

    Ruiz is crap. He’s a dirty player and overrated. LA wins with Lewis.

  61. daggius says:

    Ruiz is trash. he did nothing for the galaxy. bout time he was unloaded

  62. Johnny B says:

    TFC did “steal” Ruiz but LA had little choice but to deal him to them. Of course LA should have gotten more for Ruiz but it seems that was the only deal on the table and LA had to take it. Fact of the matter is that LA is a better team with Lewis in the starting 11 than with Ruiz on the bench.

  63. brentmcd says:

    El Pescadito is going to have severe carpet burns from flopping around the BMO turf. Hope he gets a rousing welcome in all Toronto’s road games. The pr!ck deserves nothing less than ridicule and contempt.

  64. redbull says:

    i met ruiz at one of the games, he signed autographs for the kids and was a class act.

  65. Will says:

    I agree with your take, Ives: this is a no-risk move for TFC. Worst case scenario, he gets all moody for the rest of the season, then he’s gone. Best case, he decides to prove he’s a grade A player and turns on the jets for the rest of the season.

    Re: your question of the weak market… I think TFC had LA over a barrel in that there really was no market for Ruiz and TFC was doing LA a favor (taking on Ruiz’s salary so LA could sign Lewis).

  66. Brokenbil says:

    This trade was about LA getting rid of Ruiz. They didn’t seem to want him this season, barely played him, probably glad to see him go. Hopefully Ruiz does something positive for TFC.

  67. Tim says:

    Thom that was because they didn’t have landycakes and Beckham. You really can’t have one without the other.